jzwu

Well, a question came to my mind when I was doing oil change on my Maxima the other day.

I have like 10 Toyota oil filters bought as a bulk package a while back at $3.99/ea, but I had to buy a Nissan oil filter for like $6 at the local dealer for the oil change.

When looking at them, I was not sure why I cannot use the Toyota oil filter for the Maxima. The Toyota oil filter is for my Sienna (3.3L V6) and it has double stage filtering element and anti-drainback valve. Sounds just as good as the Nissan oil filter.

The only possible problem I can think of is the potential thread fit issue. I can compare and see if there is any difference.

But as a general question, can I use Toyota oil filter for Maxima/Nissan? I see no reason why not unless there is something serious different between the two.

SEmy2K2go

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Cross reference the part numbers.

nismopc

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Nissan Maxima Oil Filter Thread Inside Diameter: M20 x 1.5

Toyota Sienna Oil Filter Thread Inside Diameter: 0.75

NOPE!

Child_uv_KoRn

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I've been wondering why we use the tiny ones. They're ridiculously small and I could just buy a larger one for the same price.

nismopc

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I have never used the 3.5l filter since I've owned it. That's been over 70k miles ago. I now have over 133k on the car.

I use the 3.0l...

...larger capacity.

Nissan # 15208-9E000 <<< Correct part number

jzwu

Too bad the threads are different.

Thanks for the info!

jasonmax

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cuz we have shorter oil change intervals.

Child_uv_KoRn

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Unless you use full syn and only change every 6k+ or so...

Small V8s come with filters over twice the size. It just seems strange.

Hillbilly4eva

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My Honda CBR uses the same filter as the Maxima, for a motor roughly 3.5 times larger. I agree seems a little small.

nsnrider

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if the thread and diameter match, then you would have been able to, but since they're not........

Puppetmaster

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That's the 2001 MAF part number. I think the filter number you are looking for ends in 9E0000.... I can't remember how many zeros.

nismopc

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Whoops!!

Nissan # 15208-9E000

NisTech

how about our 3.5 using only 4 liters of oil or 4.3? same 3.5 l v6 Toyota size engine takes 6.3 liters to fill up. smaller pan i guess

PulsarGTS

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Yah really, the 1.8L in my celica held 4.25 quarts, I always thought it was odd how little oil the vq35s held. I guess thats they reason they had a oil cool stock.

Will

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Hey, found this thread on a search after I did an oil change on my friend's 2003 Toyota Matrix today. I got the Toyota 90915-YZZF1 filter for this car, which is the long-life filter (5,000 miles) Toyota sells for the new Matrices, and it is sized exactly the same as our Nissan 15208-9E000.

I went on the Fram catalog to find the Fram orange equivalent, which was PH4386, then I compared the gasket inner and outer diameters to the Fram equivalant of the 9E000, and the 9E000 only differed by 0.02" with the gaskets.

Not sure about you guys, but here at Canadian Nissan dealers, the oil filters are quite expensive, are Made in China (if cost was an issue, shouldn't Made in China units be cheaper vs. Made in Japan????? HMMM), and the recommended replacement interval is only 3,750 miles.

The Toyota oil filters are made in Thailand which is not ideal also (I prefer Made in Japan units!), but I'm thinking this might fit our VQs if the gasket diameters are only hundredths of an inch off. I have a good impression of the 'Yota filters since I'm a former 3rd gen guy and they served VE30DE owners well.

Thoughts?

T_Behr904

Wow that is close. I would like to use a larger capacity oil filter. The ones for the 3.0 De-K IMO are small.

Will

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Do you mean you're using that puny 15208-65F00 filter? If so, you should be able to put in the 9E000 filter, which is longer and bigger = has more filtering capacity.

I want to try the Toyota one for it's ability to last at least 5000 miles since I use synthetic and usually swap Nissan filters every 3750 miles. I was hoping by posting, someone could confirm that the 90915-YZZF1 could fit a VQ, but I'll just pop in to see my Lexus parts guy later this week to do a cross-reference confirmation (and if it checks out, I'll buy one to be a guinea pig and report back here).

T_Behr904

I was unaware that a larger filter could fit, thanks for letting me know about the 9E000. I have two of the puny ones left, and am going to change the oil tomorrow. So after I use up what I got I'll go for the larger 9E000, unless the larger Toyota filter works for you I'll go that route.

trooplewis

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If you guys exceed the filtering capacity of a standard 3.5l oil filter between changes, you have bigger problems than the size of the filter.

knight_yyz

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Here's what I have been doing for about 180k kilometers. I used to use the mobil 1 m1-105 filter. Has the larger capacity, has the same drainback valve, but it used synthetic fiber. I found out about this filter in the fluids section of this forum. But Mobil 1 disco'd this number. So I cross referenced to Wix and got the number 51381. Now wix is a damn good filter so no problems there. But I went one step further and cross referenced that Wix number with amsoil. They use synthetic fiber in their filters and have an amazing warranty on the filter. The amsoil number is EA021

Ea Filters designated with product code EaO are recommended for 25,000 miles/one year, whichever comes first, in normal service or 15,000 miles/one year, whichever comes first, in severe service.

Now I don't leave my oil in the car for 25k miles. But with these filters I go about 12k kilometers and the oil still looks pretty clean. I use 0w30 castrol synthetic.

Wix Specs...
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.141
Outer Diameter Top: 3.660
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 13-19
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

OEM size specs
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/19
Burst Pressure-PSI: 363
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

So the bigger size gives you the same capacity and the same flow and basically the same bypass valve.


If you want to retain OEM size but a different OEM supplier, then you should be buying acura oil filters from 02-11 Or Mazda, or mitsubishi, which all use the same filter as the Maxima.

The larger filter is from older Mitsubishi's, Hyundia's and Mazda's

QT1 5MT AE

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nissan oil filters are garbage. the chinese ones have cardboard in them. mobil 1 is the way to go with synthec

spock

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Have you actually cut them open?

QT1 5MT AE

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not personally.

http://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-d...otsa-pics.html

homeyclaus

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Interesting. I guess that's why my local stealership used a Napa (made by Wix) filter. Nah - I am sure it was just cheaper by accident.

igzy

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Toyota has a plant near Thailand and as such many suppliers (like oil filters) are in the close proximity to it (so plant can keep an eye on it and speed of supply - JIT). Hence, the parts made there do conform to quality standards and are equivalent to Japan made ones. That proximity to the plant is the differentiating factor to a filter factory in China that just makes filters and exports them to US and elsewhere....

Will

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Thanks Igzy.

I just confirmed that the 90915-YZZF1, even though it's the exact same size as the Nissan 15208-9E000, will not fit our VQs because the threading is different, so I shall kibosh this idea.

Wix it is for me after I finish all my Nissan ones, though all the Nissan oil filters I have in my stash are older Made in Japan units. Hope these ones don't have cardboard end caps in them.

igzy

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Wix and Puro are good and I read good things about Quaker State filters through bitog...

spock

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I cut open a good old "Crappy Tire", (Canadian slang for Canadian Tire), filter and was impressed with it's internals. I've been using them for 2 years now and just got an analysis report back from Blackstone that was quite good. Unfortunately, it appears that they have changed suppliers. The old ones had a compression spring for a relief and the replacements do not. This can be seen by looking into the filter. This leads me to believe that they are entirely different filters.
Since Purolator seems to be difficult to track down here, I'll probably buy a Napa gold and cut it open to see how well it's constructed.

igzy

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Save your $$, many have cut it open . Here is an example (found in google images):



K&N, Hi-Flo, Parts Unlimited, Napa Gold, AMSOil Oil Filters.

T_Behr904

Great pic, never heard of Hi-Flo or Parts Unlimited. Has anyone cut open a Bosch unit yet?