6th gen brakes on a 5.5 HOW TO?

Klutch · 02-02-2009, 11:19 PM

Is there a definitive thread anywhere on upgrading to 6th gen brakes on a 5.5" I'm sure there is a 1000 threads about it but am looking for the survival guide if you will.

CustomLowz · 02-03-2009, 07:39 AM

6th gen BBK related question to set something straight

*n3985* · 02-03-2009, 07:55 AM

Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by n3985

Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

Any idea if I use used calipers if I need to flush them somehow first in case there is junk in the line?

*n3985* · 02-03-2009, 08:02 AM

Ya just press the piston back, it will squeeze out all the old fluid.

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 08:05 AM

Sweet! I can get calipers and rotors off an 06 for less than $100, might as well give it a shot right?

I assume people just change the fronts and don't mess with the rear?

**Puppetmaster** · 02-03-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by n3985

Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

Also be sure to have on hand lots of shop towels and something on the floor to catch all the brake fluid spills. Nitrile gloves help too.

And bed in the pads, if necessary.

Btw, moved to 5th Gen forum before Blehm gets here, because he may not consider this "Advanced"...

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 09:17 AM

Do most just change the fronts and leave the stock rear?

**Puppetmaster** · 02-03-2009, 09:25 AM

AFAIK, yes.

diverdown3 · 02-03-2009, 09:31 AM

Has anyone experienced a brake bias issue? I'm thinking that the greater stopping power of the larger 6th gen pads will change the braking bias. Maybe the change is not significant enough to warrant modifying the bias, but it seems the possibility exists.

**Puppetmaster** · 02-03-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by diverdown3

Has anyone experienced a brake bias issue? I'm thinking that the greater stopping power of the larger 6th gen pads will change the braking bias. Maybe the change is not significant enough to warrant modifying the bias, but it seems the possibility exists.

Not with 6th Gen brakes, to my knowledge. While there is an improvement in stopping, it isn't enough to cause significant bias.

Someone just told me that with the Wilwood kit on his 2000, the ABS kicks in before you've even stomped on it all the way.

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 01:47 PM

Alright you bastages, I ordered a set of 2007 rotors and calipers with brackets, car had 17K on it. $125 shipped!

diverdown3 · 02-03-2009, 02:12 PM

May I ask where you sourced those? New or used?

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by diverdown3

May I ask where you sourced those? New or used?

Used 17K on them

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat....car-parts.com network of late model salvage yards across the country. Just don't go after the ones in North Carolina, they are SOLD!

diverdown3 · 02-03-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Used 17K on them

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat....car-parts.com network of late model salvage yards across the country. Just don't go after the ones in North Carolina, they are SOLD!

Sorry. I guess I was just skimming the sentence.

Thanks.

HotshotVQ35 · 02-03-2009, 02:20 PM

what kinda pads you going to run?

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Alright you bastages, I ordered a set of 2007 rotors

and calipers with brackets, car had 17K on it. $125 shipped!

**Puppetmaster** · 02-03-2009, 02:20 PM

I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure

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Klutch · 02-03-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster

I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure

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HAHA, alright man, it worked, I'm a little worried now

No idea on the pads yet. I was thinking about getting the rotors turned out the gate but I'll wait and see how everything looks.

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster

I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure

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Oh and if a 2007 w/17K would have been totalled because of total brake failure I'm certain shortly after the lawsuit Nissan would have had the car destroyed, especially the brake components.

**Puppetmaster** · 02-03-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

HAHA, alright man, it worked, I'm a little worried now

No idea on the pads yet. I was thinking about getting the rotors turned out the gate but I'll wait and see how everything looks.

Oh I didn't mean that to get you concerned, just saying whenever you get junkyard parts, make sure you ask the right questions.

I'm using Hawk HPS pads along with RTP blanks from Auto-Max and I love the set-up, esp. for what it cost.

dizmax96 · 02-03-2009, 06:42 PM

jus dont get oem pads.. they will make the rotors warp. somethings about the pad material. youre better off just gettin new rotors. imo. ive got akebono proact pads in the front. has a nice bite to it. no noise and low dusting.

jeff5347 · 02-03-2009, 09:03 PM

paid 85 for mine shipped, bracket, rotors and calipers. YOu can check my car domain page i have a write up on how to transfer them to the 5.5.

Klutch · 02-03-2009, 09:23 PM

What year were your guys' off of? I was trying to get as new as I could and keep the price down.

Also, if you bought used rotors did you have them turned?

**Puppetmaster** · 02-04-2009, 07:55 AM

I got mine off a 2005, but I don't think it really matters as long as it is in good working order. I mean, to put it into perspective, people are refurbishing brakes from Z32s with no issues. Just make sure you clean everything up, replace typical wear/rust items like the boot, shims, etc and you should be all set.

Personally, I'm averse to used rotors, so I just got some new ones.

Klutch · 02-04-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster

I got mine off a 2005, but I don't think it really matters as long as it is in good working order. I mean, to put it into perspective, people are refurbishing brakes from Z32s with no issues. Just make sure you clean everything up, replace typical wear/rust items like the boot, shims, etc and you should be all set.

Personally, I'm averse to used rotors, so I just got some new ones.

Yeah, I was just curious. I figured since I was doing it I might as well get as new as possible, there really wasn't a price difference to speak of. Mine were off a 07 so that's a couple of years of wear, weathering and brake dust that I won't have to clean up. I have $15 in the rotors per side, I figured what the hell.

**Puppetmaster** · 02-04-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Yeah, I was just curious. I figured since I was doing it I might as well get as new as possible, there really wasn't a price difference to speak of. Mine were off a 07 so that's a couple of years of wear, weathering and brake dust that I won't have to clean up. I have $15 in the rotors per side, I figured what the hell.

That's a great deal, no harm in that.

Okay, I'll admit that I did partly for the shiny new rotor look... lol. Hard to see here, but the calipers were spray painted flat black while they were off the car.

Klutch · 02-04-2009, 08:22 AM

Looks great, thats partly why I may have the new ones turned to get a fresh look and make sure they are straight from day one. Now I need to figure out what to do about pads. I care about braking but honestly it's a daily driver for me on a long commute. I want the car to stop but not about any real performance. I just want them to not squeal and not crap all over my wheels... $100 pads seem excessive for what I do with the car.

**Puppetmaster** · 02-04-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Looks great, thats partly why I may have the new ones turned to get a fresh look and make sure they are straight from day one. Now I need to figure out what to do about pads. I care about braking but honestly it's a daily driver for me on a long commute. I want the car to stop but not about any real performance. I just want them to not squeal and not crap all over my wheels... $100 pads seem excessive for what I do with the car.

My Hawk HPS cost about $85. Can't remember where I got them though. They are a little noisy when cold, but after 2-3 stops, they are fine.

Klutch · 02-05-2009, 01:24 PM

WOW... got my tracking info for my brakes coming... 75 lbs!!

Herofmine · 02-07-2009, 07:43 PM

6th gen brakes will work* with 2001 Maxima?

AEMAXIMA01 · 02-07-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Herofmine

6th gen brakes will for with 2001 Maxima?

Huh? english please

Herofmine · 02-07-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01

Huh? english please

sorry =) 6th gen brakes will work* with 2001 Maxima?

Klutch · 02-08-2009, 09:25 AM

Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

Herofmine · 02-08-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

Then i will change my brakes when i'm gonna get 18" OEM wheels

AEMAXIMA01 · 02-08-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

I thought the 00-01 17s were the same size as the 02-03, just a bit of a different look from the outside?

I'm going to have to replace my brakes soon as they are warped, and would be looking into getting a set of front 6th gen brakes.

Klutch · 02-08-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01

I thought the 00-01 17s were the same size as the 02-03, just a bit of a different look from the outside?

I'm going to have to replace my brakes soon as they are warped, and would be looking into getting a set of front 6th gen brakes.

Don't take my word as gospel since I don't have a 00-01, just reading through threads and seeing others ask about it this is what I seem to recall the answer being. I seem to remember it being said that while the 17's were similar the backspacing was different on the 00-01 17's. I think I also recall it being said that a spacer can fix that though.

*pmohr* · 02-08-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutch

Don't take my word as gospel since I don't have a 00-01, just reading through threads and seeing others ask about it this is what I seem to recall the answer being. I seem to remember it being said that while the 17's were similar the backspacing was different on the 00-01 17's. I think I also recall it being said that a spacer can fix that though.

They're both the same width and offset, so the backspacing should be the same as well (roughly). +45 offset on a ~7.5" wide (actual, taking into account the inner lip) wheel should be ~5.5" backspacing.

Haven't done math like that in forever, so there's probably an error there.

AEMAXIMA01 · 02-08-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pmohr

They're both the same width and offset, so the backspacing should be the same as well (roughly). +45 offset on a ~7.5" wide (actual, taking into account the inner lip) wheel should be ~5.5" backspacing.

Haven't done math like that in forever, so there's probably an error there.

So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

*pmohr* · 02-08-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01

So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

That's my guess, yes.

CustomLowz · 02-08-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01

So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

Maybe take into consideration the shape of the spokes? If they cut in too soon on the 00-01 and not on the 02-03 they can hit the caliper??? I am not sure, as I have an 03, but if everything is the same, thats what I think might be the problem