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My ride was way too rough with the G35 copy 18" wheels (scratch easy/look awesome) with 235/40 kuhmos, coupled with Illuminas (set at 1 out of the box) and maxspeed springs. i set them to 3 (firmer I believe) and changed to 235/45 kuhmos and the ride is good and handles well, but I bottom out in back on bumps.
Does anyone else have experience with this and able to give any advice?
dont maxpeeds have a close drop to that of eibach's and H&R's
im running H&R's myself and i dont bottom out....i run my rear Illumina's at 5....sometimes 4 depending on mood and/or weather, and my summer tires/wheels are 19 inch with 245/35 19 tires
i know H&R's are softer than Maxspeeds....so this is a weird one
i didnt cut my bumpstops either
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its surprising since the Maxspeeds are fairly stiff and farily tall in the back. I neve had problems with bottoming out in the back when I had maxspeeds/illuminas. That said, I used to keep them set on 4 or 5....
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If you hadn't cut the bumpstops in half or by 1/3rd that could be your problem. Are you sure it's not a loose upper rubber bushing and cup washer on top the strut mount?
There is no need to cut your bumpstops if you set the illumina's at 5. I have maxspeed springs all around and I don't bottom out since I have illumina's at 5(stock bumpstops). The only time I bottom out in back is when I am carrying 3 adult passengers in back.
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My ride was way too rough with the G35 copy 18" wheels (scratch easy/look awesome) with 235/40 kuhmos, coupled with Illuminas (set at 1 out of the box) and maxspeed springs. i set them to 3 (firmer I believe) and changed to 235/45 kuhmos and the ride is good and handles well, but I bottom out in back on bumps.
Does anyone else have experience with this and able to give any advice?
o.k this is kind of a noobish question, but what are bumpstops???................. idk what maxspeed drop is but i know when me and a friend lowered his AE on 19's the rim will rub on a lil peice of metal right where the bumper meets the rear fender at the wheel and we thought he was bottoming out (unless thats what the bumpstop is???) but he raised it until he got it, i think filed or cut, check that out
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95 White GXE- 15.1 sold... now 14.9 (car next to me in sig)
00 Sterling GXE- 15.0 (ebay intake, exhaust) my next love and beauty (crashed n sold)
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Im thinking the "bottoming out" is actually tire rubbing. Your new tires might be a bit too tall for the drop.
That's what I'm thinking; he's confused bottoming out with rubbing. The only thing that really changed was the tire profile.
And like the last poster said, you can grind away that tab in the rear wheel well that juts out (I used an angle grinder and sprayed it with rubberized undercoating) and rubbing will sometimes be eliminated that way.
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o.k this is kind of a noobish question, but what are bumpstops???................. idk what maxspeed drop is but i know when me and a friend lowered his AE on 19's the rim will rub on a lil peice of metal right where the bumper meets the rear fender at the wheel and we thought he was bottoming out (unless thats what the bumpstop is???) but he raised it until he got it, i think filed or cut, check that out
your joking right? you have to be joking.........or you really dont know what bumpstops are???
(im not flaming you or anything though)
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If you hadn't cut the bumpstops in half or by 1/3rd that could be your problem. Are you sure it's not a loose upper rubber bushing and cup washer on top the strut mount?
No, I didn't cut my bumpstops. Actually, I'm not sure exactly what bumpstops are either.
a setting of 5 on illumina's may be too stiff for some, but you can at least try it. The way I know of bottoming out is that it feels as if you have hit the road or something, an abrupt stop(and usually a bit jarring and a unmistakeable smacking type sound). My front end bottoms out on potholes and such, but that is because I am on stock shocks up front(waiting for them to fail, didn't have enough money to get the 4 at once).
most who rub either roll their fenders, or shave tabs.
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Other car 1986 maxima: 3rd gen suspension , HID projectors(phillips 85122+ D2S bulbs), other goodies--> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/520274STILL IN THE FAMILY
your joking right? you have to be joking.........or you really dont know what bumpstops are???
(im not flaming you or anything though)
no seriously, i dont know what bumpstops are, why was that the first you ever heard some1 ask a question?
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SHIFT_LOTS OF OIL
DCMAX current mods- 4th gen intake, 2.5" custom catback, NWP block off plate, 00SE tailight w/overlays, Rewired fog lights, Eyelid, JIC coilovers, FSTB, 3.0 OBX headers, SSIM...
95 White GXE- 15.1 sold... now 14.9 (car next to me in sig)
00 Sterling GXE- 15.0 (ebay intake, exhaust) my next love and beauty (crashed n sold)
02 Sterling GLE- 13.84@100 2.1'
To answer the question about bumpstops.. They consist of 1 or two parts depending on your year/model. The first part is the rubber "boot" that surrounds and protects the strut from debris. The non "flex" section is a couple thick layers of rubber. When installed, this acts as a cushion that prevents the strut from bottoming out completely which will damage it. The second part that protects the strut is a small foamish round washer that is about 1 1/2 inches thick.. This part slides onto the shaft of the strut and has the same purpose. People cut these parts down when lowering over 1 1/2 inches to allow more suspension travel and not "ride the bumpstops".
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No, I didn't cut my bumpstops. Actually, I'm not sure exactly what bumpstops are either.
Since more than likely your rear dustbust rae factory OEM's. The upper non flex section is your bumpstop. Remove/Disassemble the strut assy and cut your bumpstop in half or about 1-1.5" of it, reinstall and you'll be good!
its surprising since the Maxspeeds are fairly stiff and farily tall in the back. I neve had problems with bottoming out in the back when I had maxspeeds/illuminas. That said, I used to keep them set on 4 or 5....
I have been on Maxspeeds and Illuminas for over 4 years and have never bottom out.. and trust me I tried for a while... and nothing... but that's just me.... check your bumpstops but it got to be something else... good luck
a setting of 5 on illumina's may be too stiff for some, but you can at least try it. The way I know of bottoming out is that it feels as if you have hit the road or something, an abrupt stop(and usually a bit jarring and a unmistakeable smacking type sound). My front end bottoms out on potholes and such, but that is because I am on stock shocks up front(waiting for them to fail, didn't have enough money to get the 4 at once).
most who rub either roll their fenders, or shave tabs.
Any advice or link on how to "roll my fender" or "shave my tabs?"
Any advice or link on how to "roll my fender" or "shave my tabs?"
Not sure how to do this.
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And like the last poster said, you can grind away that tab in the rear wheel well that juts out (I used an angle grinder and sprayed it with rubberized undercoating) and rubbing will sometimes be eliminated that way.
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2002 Infiniti I35 Sport
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