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Gauging Interest: Billet 5.5+ Gen Maxima MAF Adapters and/or MAF Tubes
Dear Mods, if you feel this needs to be elsewhere, please relocate.
I am thinking about making a batch of MAF adapters or 3" maf tubes (not requiring an adapter plate). Trying to see if there would be people interested.
Please post whether you would be interested in a MAF adapter or a MAF tube.
Pricing would likely be around:
$50 for the billet MAF adapter
$90 for the MAF tube
The tube would have a billet aluminum MAF flange tig welded onto a 3" aluminum tube with bead rolled ends.
Note:The MAF diameter can be changed if there is a need to go larger or smaller.
Here is an example of a MAF Tube we produced for the Ford Focus Community:
The reasoning behind this inquiry is another 5.5 gen owner has asked us if it was feasible to make him one. He wasn't satisfied with the quality of the welding on the Berk Technologies intake as well as the lack of bead rolled piping. This is also a great idea for those of you who might be looking to make your own short-ram or cold air intake or forced induction setup (turbo or supercharged). We have done a lot of one-off products for the Ford Focus and my experience with the 3rd gens has brought me back to the fold with the 5th+ gen products.
Looking forward to seeing how we can help the Maxima and Nissan Community!
Cheers,
Brian
Last edited by HTPerformance; 08-02-2008 at 04:05 PM.
I think this would gain more interest in the 5th gen forum.
Also, kinda confused what difference is the MAF adapter versus the MAF tube?
Here are some pictures of the MAF Adapter (from the Berk Technologies kit) sent to me.
I consider this poor aluminum welding (poor quality in general) as does the member requesting that these be made. I would rather see a billet piece or something like our replacement MAF Tubes be used (pictured in the first post).
Last edited by HTPerformance; 08-04-2008 at 11:02 AM.
basically the tube you want to sell us is 3'' ID, stock is what 2.75''? so it would be bigger aka more air. however the TB will still be the same size 2.75. so gains will likely be minimal. also you would probably want to have an AFC and do a tune when you installed this as the MAF will be reading the wrong amount of air. in theory assuming you can stuff more air pass the TB with this larger piping the car would then run lean as there is more air but less fuel. now the cars do run slightly rich from the factory but i'd rather run rich then lean any day. especially when i don't know how much leaner i would be. also afaik there are no TBs that are 3'' for our cars which again makes one question the gains...
anyone please correct me if i'm wrong in anything i said above...
op: if i were you i'd make a 3'' place racing style intake and sell it as a whole unit, pipe, filter, etc, as its the best after market intake for our cars. i think you would get more business...and try to find someone to make 3'' ID TBs for us...
edit: most people who buy this will need a new filter unless they can cram there old one on. and even if their old one did fit many would like to just have a clean new filter instead of recharging there old one(if that is an option) or going out to find a new one to fit the new pipe. Also if there want to sel their old intake it having a filter certainly makes it more likely to be quickly sold as it's a whole unit. i think you should offer an optional filter with the kit, i'd offer both a a K&N and a cheapo alternative. mark em both up 10 bucks for the fact i don't have to drive to buy one and you'd have a sale...then again my apexi is just fine . then again intakes are 95% sound, 5% performance...
basically the tube you want to sell us is 3'' ID, stock is what 2.75''? so it would be bigger aka more air. however the TB will still be the same size 2.75. so gains will likely be minimal. also you would probably want to have an AFC and do a tune when you installed this as the MAF will be reading the wrong amount of air. in theory assuming you can stuff more air pass the TB with this larger piping the car would then run lean as there is more air but less fuel. now the cars do run slightly rich from the factory but i'd rather run rich then lean any day. especially when i don't know how much leaner i would be. also afaik there are no TBs that are 3'' for our cars which again makes one question the gains...
anyone please correct me if i'm wrong in anything i said above...
Forgive me for mistyping the diameter. The 3" diameter one is the model we make for the Ford Focus. We would make the stock diameter for the maxima MAF tube and optionally make a larger one for people interested in them (tuning required for larger maf tubes to achieve optimal performance).
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Originally Posted by Torgus
op: if i were you i'd make a 3'' place racing style intake and sell it as a whole unit, pipe, filter, etc, as its the best after market intake for our cars. i think you would get more business...and try to find someone to make 3'' ID TBs for us...
We can make the 3" TBs if there is interest as well.
place racing went out of buisness.
i'd make one like that if i were you, as it's agreed upon here that it's the best by everyone as far as aftermarket goes for our cars.
can't find a pic i'm sure someone will post up a pic
the 3" MAF fad has kind of died out here. reviews ranged from several HP and added throttle response to lost hp altogether
Well, it isn't really a FAD, the reasoning behind it is that it will change the range of metering ability of the sensor since you are increasing the cross sectional area of the tube. This will aid in tuning when you have a Forced Induction or high compression Naturally Aspirated setup. If the OEM 2.75" diameter is sufficient for meterability, then it isn't necessary to increase the tubing diameter. Hence why I said it would be an option since we can make anything you want, realizing that there is reasons to increase the tubing size for meterability if necessary.
you didnt understand what i meant. last year it was a really popular thing to be doing on this board (bigger ID MAF tube), but now not so much
I thought you meant FAD in general (globally). Basically we can do either. Larger doesn't necessarily mean better.
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Originally Posted by Torgus
oh you're in boston! you can use me for a guinnie pig!
i wantz a place racing style intake!
Does anyone have pictures of this Place Racing intake?
This started as just making the MAF adapter flanges or MAF Tubes, but the tubing, couplers, clamps, and filters aren't difficult to pull together if a group wants this type of setup.
I thought you meant FAD in general (globally). Basically we can do either. Larger doesn't necessarily mean better.
yeah i assumed thats where the miscommunication was. a bigger ID MAF tube is good for a lot of people (i have one) and by no means should be ruled out. they have been proven (here) to make power under the right conditions
what used to come in the kit:
1 maf adapter
2 pipes
1 filter
3 silicone couplers
6 banjo clamps
1 instructions for one swedish made penis enlarger
fully installed:
there you go.
Gemner: can you link me to the thread about the 3'' actually helping. cuz i'd be interested in doing it myself. also what are the right conditions? all na bolt ons + tune?
if you made an intake identical to the design of the PR one i wuold be in for it, most likly along with alot of other members assuming pricing was right...
Yes we can. I figured there was a lot out there already.
The mission of our company is to develop and produce high quality and high performance parts. We like to produce parts that do not overlap with other companies because we work with cars that often do not have a lot of aftermarket support, so doubling up effort on one part is inefficient use of time and resources.
If there is a need you are interested in us looking into please PM me.
Yes we can. I figured there was a lot out there already.
The mission of our company is to develop and produce high quality and high performance parts. We like to produce parts that do not overlap with other companies because we work with cars that often do not have a lot of aftermarket support, so doubling up effort on one part is inefficient use of time and resources.
If there is a need you are interested in us looking into please PM me.
Thanks,
Brian
then you've come to the right place lol (im in CT BTW)
Forgive me for mistyping the diameter. The 3" diameter one is the model we make for the Ford Focus. We would make the stock diameter for the maxima MAF tube and optionally make a larger one for people interested in them (tuning required for larger maf tubes to achieve optimal performance).
We can make the 3" TBs if there is interest as well.
Brian I also have a throttle body you can use.
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i thought cattman was perm out of stock? seeing as PR was making them for him...
and ebay is empty...
The knock off eBay units do the same thing, so I didn't mean look for PR CAI on eBay.
There are many knock offs that do the same thing.
As far as the MAF adapter thing goes, this would have been nice about a year or 2 ago when I was trying to get Berk to custom make me a larger unit. He kept me hanging until finally one day, he told me he couldn't do it. So I had one made
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Other interest in these? Or comments about the intake side of things?
I'm guessing there's no plan to weld the MAF adapter flange on...? I know I'd probably be in the minority but this is a feature I will need for my setup.
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I'd be down for a 3"ID MAF tube. Saves money over having to do everything seperately. You should really post this in the 5/5.5th gen forum, I just happened to wander into the general forum and see this.
I would be interested. I should pull my LR maf housing now and sell it before its too late
Might be a good idea!
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Originally Posted by nismology
I'm guessing there's no plan to weld the MAF adapter flange on...? I know I'd probably be in the minority but this is a feature I will need for my setup.
Welding the flange on is not likely, but a billet replacement piece to replace the MAF adapter would, much better build quality. Or the option of the MAF Tube (replaces stock sensor housing).
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Originally Posted by 2002AltimateV6
You've gotten an Altima interested in this. I'd like one with the MAF adapter welded on though so it can just bolt onto my current intake.
As above, likely not welded, but a billet aluminum piece (1-piece machined)
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Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
I'd be down for a 3"ID MAF tube. Saves money over having to do everything seperately. You should really post this in the 5/5.5th gen forum, I just happened to wander into the general forum and see this.
Great, might post another thread unless a moderator can move this one.
. then again intakes are 95% sound, 5% performance...
if you made an intake identical to the design of the PR one i wuold be in for it, most likly along with alot of other members assuming pricing was right...
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