Bump Steer Issue
#1
Bump Steer Issue
My car is exhibiting excessive bump steer. The steering wheel moves to the left or the right every time I go over a bump, and the effect grows stronger the harder I'm accelerating when hitting a bump, dip, ripple, or any kind of inconsistency in the road. It is very hard to control when accelerating hard over uneven surfaces, as the entire car moves left and right when I'm really on it. I thought it may have been my struts, but I replaced all of them with tokico illuminas, and it didn't change a thing. I'm getting new tires soon just because I need them, but will that even change anything? Right now I have Cooper Touring tires on there. This problem is very annoying and dangerous even when I'm driving normally... especially in the rain. What else could this possibly be? Springs? Tie Rods?
Last edited by wyche89; 07-01-2008 at 07:47 PM.
#2
I'd say, pretty normal.
our maxima does have very happy steering wheel, unlike the 05 accord I drove has sticky steering wheel.
if you hit a bump in an angle, the steering wheel should move because the force will tune the wheels.
samething with driving on uneven surface.
somebody said about torque steering, but my maxima doesn't do that on even road.
our maxima does have very happy steering wheel, unlike the 05 accord I drove has sticky steering wheel.
if you hit a bump in an angle, the steering wheel should move because the force will tune the wheels.
samething with driving on uneven surface.
somebody said about torque steering, but my maxima doesn't do that on even road.
Last edited by jasonmax; 07-01-2008 at 08:14 PM.
#3
My car is exhibiting excessive bump steer. The steering wheel moves to the left or the right every time I go over a bump, and the effect grows stronger the harder I'm accelerating when hitting a bump, dip, ripple, or any kind of inconsistency in the road. It is very hard to control when accelerating hard over uneven surfaces, as the entire car moves left and right when I'm really on it. I thought it may have been my struts, but I replaced all of them with tokico illuminas, and it didn't change a thing. I'm getting new tires soon just because I need them, but will that even change anything? Right now I have Cooper Touring tires on there. This problem is very annoying and dangerous even when I'm driving normally... especially in the rain. What else could this possibly be? Springs? Tie Rods?
When you're accelerating..thats just torque steer. The movement of the steering wheel at normal driving speeds is what concerns me.
#4
I'd say, pretty normal.
our maxima does have very happy steering wheel, unlike the 05 accord I drove has sticky steering wheel.
if you hit a bump in an angle, the steering wheel should move because the force will tune the wheels.
samething with driving on uneven surface.
somebody said about torque steering, but my maxima doesn't do that on even road.
our maxima does have very happy steering wheel, unlike the 05 accord I drove has sticky steering wheel.
if you hit a bump in an angle, the steering wheel should move because the force will tune the wheels.
samething with driving on uneven surface.
somebody said about torque steering, but my maxima doesn't do that on even road.
I've noticed my doing that here lately as well. I recently got my car aligned and to be honest, I think thats what caused is since it wasn't doing that before.
When you're accelerating..thats just torque steer. The movement of the steering wheel at normal driving speeds is what concerns me.
When you're accelerating..thats just torque steer. The movement of the steering wheel at normal driving speeds is what concerns me.
Last edited by wyche89; 07-01-2008 at 11:32 PM.
#5
i definitely do not think that this problem is normal.. i had a 5th gen before this car, and i could go WOT on certain roads without a second thought, while with this car, i have to struggle to keep it under control at MEDIUM throttle on those same roads
i know what torque steer is, and that is not an issue, because i know it's to be expected with FWD cars.. however, this problem is a whole different animal.. the problem ONLY happens when the road surface is uneven, by the way... on a perfectly flat road, i can go WOT with no problems at all.. the problems start only when inconsistencies arise in the road.. or when my wheel is turned (for example, i cant accelerate quickly and switch lanes at the same time)
i know what torque steer is, and that is not an issue, because i know it's to be expected with FWD cars.. however, this problem is a whole different animal.. the problem ONLY happens when the road surface is uneven, by the way... on a perfectly flat road, i can go WOT with no problems at all.. the problems start only when inconsistencies arise in the road.. or when my wheel is turned (for example, i cant accelerate quickly and switch lanes at the same time)
Sounds like bad tires with broken or loose belt insides the tire. Bumpsteer is the binding of the tierod ends due to extreme angles normally involving extreme lowered vehicles! Look at your tierod ends and inspect whether they're binding against the spindle torque arm. I doubt it!!! How much lower are you than stock?
#6
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Sounds like bad tires with broken or loose belt insides the tire. Bumpsteer is the binding of the tierod ends due to extreme angles normally involving extreme lowered vehicles! Look at your tierod ends and inspect whether they're binding against the spindle torque arm. I doubt it!!! How much lower are you than stock?
Sounds like bad tires with broken or loose belt insides the tire. Bumpsteer is the binding of the tierod ends due to extreme angles normally involving extreme lowered vehicles! Look at your tierod ends and inspect whether they're binding against the spindle torque arm. I doubt it!!! How much lower are you than stock?
Last edited by wyche89; 07-02-2008 at 08:05 AM.
#8
It's most likely your tires. I was experiencing the same symptoms as when I had bald tires. After replacing them.... it rides like a dream. I think once your tires are worn down (or if you have a broken belt) the tend to "tramline" or follow the imperfections in the road.
Does your car move to the left and right even while not accelerating? I know mine did....
Does your car move to the left and right even while not accelerating? I know mine did....
#10
It's most likely your tires. I was experiencing the same symptoms as when I had bald tires. After replacing them.... it rides like a dream. I think once your tires are worn down (or if you have a broken belt) the tend to "tramline" or follow the imperfections in the road.
Does your car move to the left and right even while not accelerating? I know mine did....
Does your car move to the left and right even while not accelerating? I know mine did....
#11
inspect the suspension first. Check the ball joints in the control arm and check the torque of the upper strut nuts. If everything looks solid and nothing is loose, i would recommned replacing inner tie rods. You might as well do the outters too. if you can do this your self, it's not much money.
Do not get Ebay parts. Buy Moog off Rockauto.com.
Do not get Ebay parts. Buy Moog off Rockauto.com.
#14
ok, i got my new tires on the other day, and the problem is sooo much better.. not completely gone, but i'd say about 90%.. to the point where i feel safe accelerating now it also handles and rides better too.. these tires are the sh*t
#15
UPDATE
the problem is back... i got illumina struts, set them at 2 upon installation, and they didn't really help the problem... the new tires helped the problem alot, although didn't completely eliminate it.. i changed the strut setting to the stiffest setting of 5, and that just brought the bumpsteer back.. almost like it completely negated the positive effect the new tires had.. so i set them back on 2, figuring that would help, but the bumpsteer is STILL bad... feels like what it did when they were on 5.. this sh*t is making me mad... how hard is it to change tie rod ends yourself? my search is not currently working
Last edited by wyche89; 07-13-2008 at 12:10 AM.
#16
THATS odd, with my illumians set to 5 (the stiffest) i feel the bumps, but my steering responses isnt affected...I can hit a nice sized bump an my wheel will barely budge.....
that all changed when i bought my 19's a few weeks back....but according to another .org'er, my car wheels are exhibiting "tracking".....
that all changed when i bought my 19's a few weeks back....but according to another .org'er, my car wheels are exhibiting "tracking".....
#17
THATS odd, with my illumians set to 5 (the stiffest) i feel the bumps, but my steering responses isnt affected...I can hit a nice sized bump an my wheel will barely budge.....
that all changed when i bought my 19's a few weeks back....but according to another .org'er, my car wheels are exhibiting "tracking".....
that all changed when i bought my 19's a few weeks back....but according to another .org'er, my car wheels are exhibiting "tracking".....
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