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Old 09-16-2007, 08:37 PM   #1
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Any have the Stillen BBK?

After calculating a full Z32 30mm BBK setup would run around $900-1000, I found this Stillen BBK kit for around the same thing. Anyone have it by any chance?

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...N&model=MAXIMA
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I don't know of anyone who's gotten it, surprisingly. Not a bad price for a BBK really. I think they're 2-piston calipers.

I would think about trying it out, but 13" rotors are probably too big to clear some of my wheels (same reason I didn't buy the Cobra setup)....

Anyhow, it's a nice price for a basic BBK setup, and probably more trouble-free than the z32 setup (which has proven to perform great but has been a bit of a hassle dealing with noises and fitament tolerances)...
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btw, the z32 setup should really only cost you around $500-600 or so.....
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im planning to get this when i get home...saving up

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?id=APBRKIT6P&c=BR
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Really? 2x rebuilt calipers from Autozone or some other store is $250 each IIRC. Then new rotors for ~ $150, new brake lines $60, caliper bracket $200, and new pads for $60. Rough total is $970.
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Ya, the AP is nice, and you guys could actually make use of it. I just need some better brakes for DD.
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Ya, the AP is nice, and you guys could actually make use of it. I just need some better brakes for DD.
for daily driving...get some hawk pads and call it a day
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I have Hawk HPS on Brembo blanks, but I'm sick of the spongy pedal even after bleeding. Since I am keeping the car might as well as improve a little bit of everything.
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If I hadn't upgraded to 6th gen rotors and calipers, this is what I would have done:

http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=843

It's designed as a 4-piston caliper upgrade for 6th gens to use with their stock rotors.

So, get this caliper kit & some 12.6" off-the-shelf 6th gen rotors and you have a pretty cheap BBK.

True, the rotors are heavy, but the Stillen kit also uses a 1-piece rotor (which isn't light) and isn't much larger, and you get 4 piston calipers vs. 2. Not to mention it'll be even cheaper.
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Haha, a guy on NYCmaximas.org is actually selling the Wilwood caliper with bracket for 12.6 or 13 rotors for $600. But even that after pads, lines, fluid, rotors, it will be around $1000 too. The Stillen kit is also 4 piston I believe.

Edit: Called Stillen, it is only 2 pistons. So I guess Wilwood is the next best thing.
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Haha, a guy on NYCmaximas.org is actually selling the Wilwood caliper with bracket for 12.6 or 13 rotors for $600. But even that after pads, lines, fluid, rotors, it will be around $1000 too. The Stillen kit is also 4 piston I believe.
That Wilwood kit comes with pads and lines...
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Oh good call, didn't read it carefully. So Fastbrakes Willwood and rotors will probably only be in $800 range.

My new wheels will be 19x8.5 +40mm, anyway I can find out if calipers will clear. Or it should clear due to the new wheel size and offset.
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This one guy with a white 5.5gen has a stillen BBK.
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Haha, a guy on NYCmaximas.org is actually selling the Wilwood caliper with bracket for 12.6 or 13 rotors for $600. But even that after pads, lines, fluid, rotors, it will be around $1000 too. The Stillen kit is also 4 piston I believe.

Edit: Called Stillen, it is only 2 pistons. So I guess Wilwood is the next best thing.
This sounds like a bargain.
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Really? 2x rebuilt calipers from Autozone or some other store is $250 each IIRC. Then new rotors for ~ $150, new brake lines $60, caliper bracket $200, and new pads for $60. Rough total is $970.
rebuilt calipers should only run you about $120 each first of all. Less if you have a "core" to return....

I got mine at a junkyard for $40 each, IIRC and then bought the $30 rebuild kit from Nissan and rebuilt them myself.

a set of Brembos in the GD section are about $120...

Caliper bracket.....that's the tough part...I don't know if you can even get them anymore
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Oh I see, the already rebuilt ones at the auto stores are a lot more expensive than a junk yard I guess. I used the part numbers from the suspension forum's 300ZX buying guide, all the stores quoted me $200+ for ONE caliper.
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If I hadn't upgraded to 6th gen rotors and calipers, this is what I would have done:

http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=843

It's designed as a 4-piston caliper upgrade for 6th gens to use with their stock rotors.

So, get this caliper kit & some 12.6" off-the-shelf 6th gen rotors and you have a pretty cheap BBK.

True, the rotors are heavy, but the Stillen kit also uses a 1-piece rotor (which isn't light) and isn't much larger, and you get 4 piston calipers vs. 2. Not to mention it'll be even cheaper.

that looks like a slick setup. I'm checkng to see if they will fit with the 2-pc blehm 12.6" rotors....if so, I might change to these from the z32 calipers. Hmm....
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Oh I see, the already rebuilt ones at the auto stores are a lot more expensive than a junk yard I guess. I used the part numbers from the suspension forum's 300ZX buying guide, all the stores quoted me $200+ for ONE caliper.
$139.99 each from importrp.com (an org sponsor), and that includes the core charge....
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that looks like a slick setup. I'm checkng to see if they will fit with the 2-pc blehm 12.6" rotors....if so, I might change to these from the z32 calipers. Hmm....
so....I ordered them. Couldn't pass it up, and now I can use the z32 calipers on my Triumph most likely

That's a nice deal.
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Damn it irish, I wanted to be the first on a 5th gen

Oh well, whatever you learn will only make my experience smoother
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that looks like a slick setup. I'm checkng to see if they will fit with the 2-pc blehm 12.6" rotors....if so, I might change to these from the z32 calipers. Hmm....
I want to see how it works out. That's something I always wanted to do...those calipers and then Matt Blehm's 2-piece 6th gen rotors. Possibly the cheapest 2-piece rotor BBK [still] available for our cars.
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so....I ordered them. Couldn't pass it up, and now I can use the z32 calipers on my Triumph most likely

That's a nice deal.
Don't you have another really big purchase to spend money on?
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so....I ordered them. Couldn't pass it up, and now I can use the z32 calipers on my Triumph most likely

That's a nice deal.
Dont forget to take install pics and write up a nice review.
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Don't you have another really big purchase to spend money on?
Yeah, I'm just trying to do the last few things to the maxima before winter and then new baby come along.

Although I like the z32 setup, it's been frustrating to deal with and I'm just ready to get something that I know is going to "work" correctly because the calipers are made for a rotor this size and not a 11" rotor like the z32 calipers are. I want this to be the last time I have to deal with brake upgrades or replacement because I don't really want to work on the maxima much anymore and my GT6 will be sitting in my garage next weekend and then i will NEVER want to work on the max

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I want to see how it works out. That's something I always wanted to do...those calipers and then Matt Blehm's 2-piece 6th gen rotors. Possibly the cheapest 2-piece rotor BBK [still] available for our cars.
I'm gonna be running it at first with my OEM 6th gen rotors that I just put back on for the upcoming winter.

Also my 2pc Blehm rotors are (believe it or not) warped a bit and I get a shimmy on braking from high speeds, so they need to be turned. The OEM rotors are smooth as butter right now......

I have to verify that there is enough swept surface available on the 2pc rotors to accomodate the wilwoods too....if so, great. If not, I'll just sell the rotors I guess....we'll see.
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Damn it irish, I wanted to be the first on a 5th gen

Oh well, whatever you learn will only make my experience smoother
lol, order tonight with 2-day shipping and you can still be the first

Mine won't be in until Friday at the earliest, and maybe not on until next week assuming everything fits correctly.
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what big purchase were you talking about?

I was talking about the new house... I totally forgot you have a little bambino on the way, pretty soon you get to start posting about college funds instead of mods.

My wife is also feeling her "Motherly instinct" kicking in.
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After calculating a full Z32 30mm BBK setup would run around $900-1000, I found this Stillen BBK kit for around the same thing. Anyone have it by any chance?

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...N&model=MAXIMA
paypal me $550 and i will have a bolt on ready kit for u in 10 days shipped to your door with 13" rotors and pocket $50 for myself. deal ?

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paypal me $550 and i will have a bolt on ready kit for u in 10 days shipped to your door with 13" rotors and pocket $50 for myself. deal ?
Seriously, It doesn't cost very much for Z32 BBK.

1) ~150 for used calipers
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Seriously, It doesn't cost very much for Z32 BBK.

1) ~150 for used calipers
2) ~150 for decent rotors
3) ~50 for decent pads
4) ~50 for stainless conversion brake lines
But all the headaches you have with it doesnt make up for the cost. Especially the noise problems.

I am interested in seeying this kit from fastbrakes though....
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i have no problems with my z32, except that my slotted rotors make a griding noise. get blanks and they are problem free.
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i have no problems with my z32, except that my slotted rotors make a griding noise. get blanks and they are problem free.
What about install? Didnt you have issues?
Some members had some whoop whoop noises from them
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Some members had some whoop whoop noises from them
Very few - like the few that have oil burning VQ35's.
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install required fine tuning but its straight forward. no whoop doop poop noises here

i can lock up brakes @ 60 mph with 60lbs of rim and tire on each side.
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Seriously, It doesn't cost very much for Z32 BBK.

1) ~150 for used calipers
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If I hadn't upgraded to 6th gen rotors and calipers, this is what I would have done:

http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=843

It's designed as a 4-piston caliper upgrade for 6th gens to use with their stock rotors.

So, get this caliper kit & some 12.6" off-the-shelf 6th gen rotors and you have a pretty cheap BBK.

True, the rotors are heavy, but the Stillen kit also uses a 1-piece rotor (which isn't light) and isn't much larger, and you get 4 piston calipers vs. 2. Not to mention it'll be even cheaper.


hmmmm....so all you would need is just the 6th gen rotor and this piston upgrade (seeing how it already comes with brackets) and you'd be set....that's not bad, maybe $800 total...excellent alternative to the kits that are out there.
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What about install? Didnt you have issues?
Some members had some whoop whoop noises from them
actually alot of us had those issues....

BUT we figured out how to fix it....by filing down a little bit of metal on the inside of the caliper
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no problem here.....nada....no noise, scraping, wooop woop....nada...

mine work great...

and I can get brackets if anyone needs them

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The Fastbrakes kit says it comes with aluminum adapter brackets, but I'm guessing for the 5th gen we'll need some other ones? (since the kit is made for 6th gen)

Also, the 6 pot kit will probably throw the brake distribution way off and thus decrease stopping distance?
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