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Old 06-01-2007, 09:22 AM
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5th Gen AC bypass belt size

I searched high and low for info on bypassing the AC compressor on a 2000 maxima ( 5th gen ) . All I could find is info on 4th gens. The belt set-up in the car seems completely different than that of the 4th gens.

Anyone have any success bypassing the AC compressor pulley on a 2000 max ?

Just by looking at the engine bay, I can tell that the belt tensioner might get in the way of a bypass belt, because of it's location.

Any info would be great.. Sorry if this has been discussed already...


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With respect to the subject at hand, 4th gen = 5th gen, mmmk?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
With respect to the subject at hand, 4th gen = 5th gen, mmmk?


Thanks for the quick reply.

I had assumed this, and went and bought a 36 inch belt, like some posts say to bypass the AC, but the belt is entirely way too large.

Is that 36" a circumference measure or something else ?

This "36"" belt seems like its more like 72" in circumference, this thing is huge compared to the stock one that I'm replacing.

Oy, so sorry for making this mistake, Ill go get the right belt now...
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Originally Posted by Maximhuh
I searched high and low for info on bypassing the AC compressor on a 2000 maxima ( 5th gen ).


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=432165
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Originally Posted by Stardust

Hrm... well now I just feel really stupid.


I just don't know about these 37 or 36 inch belts, they seem twice the size or more of the belt that I am replacing, and that makes no sense.

The belt should be smaller.

Perhaps the 36" is it's circumference and not it's folded diameter, which seems to be the way Strauss' belts are measured..
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Make sure you are replacing the Alt belt.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Make sure you are replacing the Alt belt.

Thanks so much for the reply's so fast. I'm thinking that the belt is measured differently than I'm expecting.

The partnumber for suggested in another thread is "6PK910" , the part number I found on my "stock" belt ( not ac bypassed ), is 6pk1105. So that 910 seems like it should be smaller...

Ill see if they have that one. Sorry for the waste of time.

And thank you for the help..
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910mm = 35.83"
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
910mm = 35.83"

thanks, ya I did the conversion also, but the strauss guys seem to think that that 35.83" is a measure of it's folded length. Which I doubt seems correct. That's the circumference measure, I'm almost sure.

Armed with the partnumber now, Im sure they wont be able to sell me the wrong thing again
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Hey guys, just want to make sure I get the right belt for my sons 2003 Max SE to bypass AC.

Is this the right one 6PK910? What brand is it?
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Quick question. Benifits of this would be no ac which=more power correct?
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Wait this thread is old as dirt. Nvm
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Originally Posted by fishtale6spd
Quick question. Benifits of this would be no ac which=more power correct?

AC compressor whining like crazy. $1100 for new one. Winter here no need fro AC really.
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
AC compressor whining like crazy. $1100 for new one. Winter here no need fro AC really.
Uhhh wtf? That's like 3x the price of a new OEM one.....

PM me if you're looking for one....
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Uhhh wtf? That's like 3x the price of a new OEM one.....

PM me if you're looking for one....


Well that was what two different garages told my son. I assume that includes all labor and recharging the system.
Still....pretty high and not something he can afford at the moment. So plan is to bypass it for now anyways and deal with it later.

Thanks for the offer
I'm going to pick up that belt, hopefully the part # quoted above is the right one?
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Help!!!

The garage says we need a pulley kit to bypass the AC ? I thought from this thread that all that was needed was a shorter belt.

Can someone chime in that has done this bypass or knows anything about doing it please?
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
Help!!!

The garage says we need a pulley kit to bypass the AC ? I thought from this thread that all that was needed was a shorter belt.

Can someone chime in that has done this bypass or knows anything about doing it please?
Just a belt playboiii

If you are in/near houston I'll do it fer yuh in 20 mins.
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Just a belt playboiii

If you are in/near houston I'll do it fer yuh in 20 mins.
I appreciate the offer! I moved back to Canada from Houston in 84 however. Lived in Sugarland.

So why is the garage telling my son that he needs a bypass pulley?
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
I appreciate the offer! I moved back to Canada from Houston in 84 however. Lived in Sugarland.

So why is the garage telling my son that he needs a bypass pulley?
That's where I live

Silly garage = silly??

Really I can make a video on how to do it... It's bloody simple.

You remove a belt... Then put on the other... ignoring the A/C
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Originally Posted by aackshun
That's where I live

Silly garage = silly??

Really I can make a video on how to do it... It's bloody simple.

You remove a belt... Then put on the other... ignoring the A/C
Small world after all huh?
I was working for Baker Oil Tools and worked all over North Texas, Louisiana and in the Gulf. Had a lot of fun, worked hard, partied hard and met some great folks!


Ok I'm assuming the guys at the garage did not even look at his car then, just read the work order and said " Can't be done without a bypass pulley"?

You've actually done it? I don't need you to make a video, if you know it is not an issue. I'd do it myself but the weather is crappy as in snowing and cannot work in the garage as my baby is sleeping in there (68 Chevelle).
Also, that part # 6PK910 is the right belt?

I appreciate your help sir!


P.S. I just noticed you drive a 99, there's no difference in an 03?
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
Small world after all huh?
I was working for Baker Oil Tools and worked all over North Texas, Louisiana and in the Gulf. Had a lot of fun, worked hard, partied hard and met some great folks!


Ok I'm assuming the guys at the garage did not even look at his car then, just read the work order and said " Can't be done without a bypass pulley"?

You've actually done it? I don't need you to make a video, if you know it is not an issue. I'd do it myself but the weather is crappy as in snowing and cannot work in the garage as my baby is sleeping in there (68 Chevelle).
Also, that part # 6PK910 is the right belt?

I appreciate your help sir!


P.S. I just noticed you drive a 99, there's no difference in an 03?
Man I wish I could party hard in SL

Very true, if they looked at it they'd realize they're a bunch of doomkofs (spelling?)

Seriously, you don't need a garage to do it, you just need 10-20 mins outside with a few tools and you're done. That's how I did mine... The side of the road... A/C Compressor seized, I drove the car to a safe place to park, changed belts and drove back to Houston (from Kansas)

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With respect to the subject at hand, 4th gen = 5th gen, mmmk?
While I'm at it Belt changing is the same from 95-08, probably even on the current models, I've never seen a 7th gen, couldn't tell ya but I have a feeling it is.
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Originally Posted by aackshun
While I'm at it Belt changing is the same from 95-08, probably even on the current models, I've never seen a 7th gen, couldn't tell ya but I have a feeling it is.
Not the current models. They have a weird scheme there. Ever since the L32 Altima came out back in 07.




Similar, but not the same.

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not the current models. They have a weird scheme there. Ever since the L32 Altima came out back in 07.


[IMG]7th gen belts .jpg[/IMG]

Similar, but not the same.
Sortaa similar...

Hrmm.... Time to go look @ the 7th gen core motor we haz in stock
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Sortaa similar...

Hrmm.... Time to go look @ the 7th gen core motor we haz in stock
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Man I wish I could party hard in SL

Very true, if they looked at it they'd realize they're a bunch of doomkofs (spelling?)

Seriously, you don't need a garage to do it, you just need 10-20 mins outside with a few tools and you're done. That's how I did mine... The side of the road... A/C Compressor seized, I drove the car to a safe place to park, changed belts and drove back to Houston (from Kansas)



While I'm at it Belt changing is the same from 95-08, probably even on the current models, I've never seen a 7th gen, couldn't tell ya but I have a feeling it is.


Good news is it didn't take long to get the original belt off.
Bad news is that 6PK910 is wayyyyyyyy too big. Like easily twice as big as original. Crap!
What belt did you use?
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
Good news is it didn't take long to get the original belt off.
Bad news is that 6PK910 is wayyyyyyyy too big. Like easily twice as big as original. Crap!
What belt did you use?
I'm not sure what the exact size it, but rather than wait for someone to answer measure it yourself. Just take an couple old shoe strings or piece of fishing line or something and route it as though it is the belt, mark it, and measure to the mark. The belt part number is the number or ribs and ends with the length of the belt(in mm). They may not have the exact size at your local parts store, but you'll probably find something that will fit with tensioner adjustment.

Edit: Units corresponding to belt part # is corrected.

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I'm not sure what the exact size it, but rather than wait for someone to answer measure it yourself. Just take an couple old shoe strings or piece of fishing line or something and route it as though it is the belt, mark it, and measure to the mark. The belt part number is the number or ribs and ends with the length of the belt(in inches). They may not have the exact size at your local parts store, but you'll probably find something that will fit with tensioner adjustment.

Ya I thought of that....after we put it back together with the old belt.
Will do that tomorrow I guess, but hopefully your "neighbor" will get back to me to save time and trouble if I manage to pick up wrong belt again.
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I don't know any part numbers for the belts but I can tell you the size. Also, here is a diagram from the FSM about the belt.



The belt is a 6 rib, 20mm wide.

To bypass the ac, the belt is 920 mm or 36 inches.
To run the ac, the belt is 1108 mm or 43 5/8 inches.
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Originally Posted by DennisMik
I don't know any part numbers for the belts but I can tell you the size. Also, here is a diagram from the FSM about the belt.



The belt is a 6 rib, 20mm wide.

To bypass the ac, the belt is 920 mm or 36 inches.
To run the ac, the belt is 1108 mm or 43 5/8 inches.
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Good news is it didn't take long to get the original belt off.
Bad news is that 6PK910 is wayyyyyyyy too big. Like easily twice as big as original. Crap!
What belt did you use?
Alright. Based on DM's numbers, it looks like you may have gotten the wrong belt. Did you verify the number on the belt matched the number on the sleeve? Incredibly, that's a frequent occurrence.
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Alright. Based on DM's numbers, it looks like you may have gotten the wrong belt. Did you verify the number on the belt matched the number on the sleeve? Incredibly, that's a frequent occurrence.
The belt number matches the sleeve. Its an ACDelco belt 6K910 which the guy at the parts store said matches up to a 6PK910. It is way bigger than original belt though. Without measuring or looking for number on original belt I'd hazard a guess that it would be only be a 350-400mm belt. Based on the giant size of this 910 one.

Notice quote above from maximhuh..he also says that belt is too big.




I found this on Ac-Delcos site for original belt


BELT,FAN
Part Number: 6K431
Product Notes:
Automotive V-Ribbed Belt (Standard)
Alt & AC ; 1 Per Veh

Per Vehicle: 1; Years: 2002-2003


That makes more sense as to how long the current belt is 431 mm
So in theory I would need something around 300-350 mm to leave out the AC unit. Guess we'll pull it apart again and try and figure out a length that will work

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Well did not get around to measuring what's needed. Took it easy today. No comments from anyone? It would appear that 2002-2003 Maxs use way shorter belts though.
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
Well did not get around to measuring what's needed. Took it easy today. No comments from anyone? It would appear that 2002-2003 Maxs use way shorter belts though.
95 thru 08 Maximas (4th, 5th, 6th generations) use the same full size belt and idler pulley, so the bypass belt would be the same too.

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I went on DAYCO's web site and they list 2 belts for our cars. # 5060431 they say has an effective length of 43.11 inches. This sounds right for the belt that will run the ac compressor.

The other belt is # 5040305 and has an effective length of 30.51 inches. This seems a bit small for use as the ac bypass belt, but maybe the tensioner has enough movement to allow this. I personally am skeptical of this one.

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Phew, job finally done. After three belt swaps the 37" worked. Noise gone!
Note: this was on a 2003 Max so cannot vouch for any other years.
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Originally Posted by Brian Hamilton
Phew, job finally done. After three belt swaps the 37" worked. Noise gone!
See! Wasn't that hard.... When you got the right belt

No silly pulleys needed, good job!
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See! Wasn't that hard.... When you got the right belt

No silly pulleys needed, good job!


Not hard indeed, especially when my son was doing it by himself in the rain yesterday and snow today.
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for the 2000 max all you need is a serpentine belt and remove the ac compressor. keep a eye on the belt tensioner it need to be tighten from time to time when you run it that way and your bypass is done. my 5gen is like this until i take time to fix it but its cold now so no need
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Phew, job finally done. After three belt swaps the 37" worked. Noise gone!
Note: this was on a 2003 Max so cannot vouch for any other years.
Weird. 910 mm converts to about 36". Should have worked. Maybe Delco has a different numbering system. Damn Americans and their obstinate USCS. Anyway, glad you got it back together.

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Weird. 910 mm converts to about 36". Should have worked. Maybe Delco has a different numbering system. Damn Americans and their obstinate USCS. Anyway, glad you got it back together.
I think that 910 refers to inches as in 91. I had laid it flat and it was about 45 ish inches so all the way around would be 91. That belt was huge compared to the original, looked like something that would go on a 12 cylinder dozer.
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Not to revive an old thread but THESE ARE THE ACTUAL BELTS
Since no one will put the part numbers up.
Metric... 6PJ940
DAYCO 370J6
PIRELLI 370J6
Metric... 6PJ940
Indust... 370J6
JASON 370J6
PIX Belts 370J6

Descripition:
Outside Circumference: 952.5 mm,37.5 in
Top Width: 14.3 mm,0.563 in
Rib Width: 2.39 mm,0.094 in
Thick: 3.96 mm,0.156 in
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