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11-07-2005, 11:22 PM
#1
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POLL - If you have a VQ35DE please enter.
Just curious as to the severity of this VQ35DE problem.
How many of you are burning oil on your VQ35DE, and if so, how many have the common rattle between 1500-2000rpms?
How many of you are burning oil on your VQ35DE, and if so, how many have the common rattle between 1500-2000rpms?
11-07-2005, 11:40 PM
#3
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I have an 03 with 67,000mi on it. After about 20k on dealer changes i went to changing it myself with Mobil1 5w-30 and Mobil Oil Filter (M1-108 i think? the low clearence model) usually in the 5-7,000mi range. the engine's smoothness is unrivaled imho. there may be a defect or you might have abused it if you're gettin a rattle and it's burning oil. I HAVE however, had to have the tranny fluid done about 8,000mi ago (I admit it, I abuse the AT and force downshifts on the gate when im really pushin it through the twisties) the lifters have been a little loud lately after running it hard for over an hour. . .i might need to add some, but i havent had any significant or notable oil burning issues.
11-08-2005, 05:22 AM
#5
About 27k on my motor. Ran synthetic (Mobil 1, Amsoil 2000 ) after the first or second oil change. I also haven't had precats for a while (I was one of the first guys with HS Headers). Car is babied 98% of the time (wife mostly drives it, and I don't think she ever break 3k rpm with it).
I do get a rattle between at about 1800 rpm which was much more pronounced over the summer. I don't know if a change in weather reduced the noise or a change in gas (had to put Mobil in one night, a switch from my usual choices) and I notice the pinging/rattling greatly decreased. Unfortunately that was right when we started getting cooler weather. So bottom line is, I'm not sure if it's pinging or timing chain rattle, but it's certainly not a precat problem with my car.
I do get a rattle between at about 1800 rpm which was much more pronounced over the summer. I don't know if a change in weather reduced the noise or a change in gas (had to put Mobil in one night, a switch from my usual choices) and I notice the pinging/rattling greatly decreased. Unfortunately that was right when we started getting cooler weather. So bottom line is, I'm not sure if it's pinging or timing chain rattle, but it's certainly not a precat problem with my car.
11-08-2005, 06:12 AM
#7
last time this poll got locked after about 1 week. there is no science behind this kinda polling. there are hundreds of thousands vq35 engines out there, and only couple of hundred people will respond to this poll. out of those couple of hundred, you may get half that are experiencing oil burning. i think with that kind of statistics, it would go against you anyway for getting a tsb from nissan, or any kind of class action...
I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MY 3.5L
11-08-2005, 09:08 AM
#11
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-My car is consuming oil.
-My timing chain rattled at first because the oil was too low. Now I dont let
the oil get that low,but I do let it get low enough for Nissan to document
the consumption.
-My car did get a new short block installed by Nissan (under powertrain
warrenty, I have 56,000 miles) in order to fix the oil consumption.
-My new short block has 1000 miles on it and is still consuming oil at
the same rate it was before. 2 3/4 Qts. every 3000 miles.
-Peak Nissan never mentioned Pre-Cats.
-My timing chain rattled at first because the oil was too low. Now I dont let
the oil get that low,but I do let it get low enough for Nissan to document
the consumption.
-My car did get a new short block installed by Nissan (under powertrain
warrenty, I have 56,000 miles) in order to fix the oil consumption.
-My new short block has 1000 miles on it and is still consuming oil at
the same rate it was before. 2 3/4 Qts. every 3000 miles.
-Peak Nissan never mentioned Pre-Cats.
11-08-2005, 12:09 PM
#15
No oil consumption, knocking and pinging since about 4000 miles, now have 43k, with no adverse effect on the motor... that I know of. Over all VERY pleased with my VQ35DE! With all the mods I've put on there has been no problems at all.... no wonder... I did all my own work.
11-08-2005, 10:06 PM
#17
2002 -- 58k miles
I switched to synthetic a few changes back, burned a lot of oil, switched back to regular oil and stopped burning it. So now I'm sticking with regular oil.
Often get the rattle at startup, going to deal with it. Also have a slight rattle sometimes around the lower rpm range, but I saw a thread a few weeks ago about how that could be caused by a minor exhaust leak.
Automatic transmission sucks, of course, but what's new.
I switched to synthetic a few changes back, burned a lot of oil, switched back to regular oil and stopped burning it. So now I'm sticking with regular oil.
Often get the rattle at startup, going to deal with it. Also have a slight rattle sometimes around the lower rpm range, but I saw a thread a few weeks ago about how that could be caused by a minor exhaust leak.
Automatic transmission sucks, of course, but what's new.
11-09-2005, 12:22 PM
#18
VQ35 with 47K miles.... cold start rattle is apparent, but once warmed up its gone. Switched to synthetic at around 36K. No oil burning/loss issues yet, but I have an oil change coming up and will measure how much comes out and let ya know.
11-09-2005, 01:29 PM
#20
I think the more important question is not whether or not you're buring oil (I did a poll on that 3-4 months ago), but whether or not the guys buring oil either have headers or not and if not if their pre-cats are good or not. If we can narrow the problem down to the pre-cats, at least we'll know how to fix the problem.
11-09-2005, 04:40 PM
#21
Originally Posted by TheBigDu
2002 -- 58k miles
I switched to synthetic a few changes back, burned a lot of oil, switched back to regular oil and stopped burning it. So now I'm sticking with regular oil.
Often get the rattle at startup, going to deal with it. Also have a slight rattle sometimes around the lower rpm range, but I saw a thread a few weeks ago about how that could be caused by a minor exhaust leak.
Automatic transmission sucks, of course, but what's new.
I switched to synthetic a few changes back, burned a lot of oil, switched back to regular oil and stopped burning it. So now I'm sticking with regular oil.
Often get the rattle at startup, going to deal with it. Also have a slight rattle sometimes around the lower rpm range, but I saw a thread a few weeks ago about how that could be caused by a minor exhaust leak.
Automatic transmission sucks, of course, but what's new.
11-09-2005, 08:11 PM
#24
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99K miles
CM headers
2000 miles on current Mobil1 Synthetic (my first oil in this car)
about 1/2 qt low, didnt check on initial fill because the oil was all over the dipstick, but ill check at oil change time and see if theres a trend. should be around 1 qt low, if initial fill was correct.
which doesnt concern me in the least.
CM headers
2000 miles on current Mobil1 Synthetic (my first oil in this car)
about 1/2 qt low, didnt check on initial fill because the oil was all over the dipstick, but ill check at oil change time and see if theres a trend. should be around 1 qt low, if initial fill was correct.
which doesnt concern me in the least.
11-10-2005, 12:12 PM
#28
just got back from the dealership. they changed the oil a few weeks ago to start an oil consumption test and asked me to bring it back in 1,000 miles. well i was under that but it started to rattle again so i took it back.
this is what the service ticket said -
"confirmed engine is losing oil. oil 1 QT low after driver 908 miles (49272 total miles)...will call Nissan as to what the next step should be...then will contact customer"
they said they should know something by monday.
this is what the service ticket said -
"confirmed engine is losing oil. oil 1 QT low after driver 908 miles (49272 total miles)...will call Nissan as to what the next step should be...then will contact customer"
they said they should know something by monday.
11-10-2005, 01:08 PM
#30
Originally Posted by soonerfan
but thats 10% of the people on the org that have voted. that doesnt represent the percentage for all VQ35DE engines
11-10-2005, 01:09 PM
#31
Originally Posted by soonerfan
just got back from the dealership. they changed the oil a few weeks ago to start an oil consumption test and asked me to bring it back in 1,000 miles. well i was under that but it started to rattle again so i took it back.
this is what the service ticket said -
"confirmed engine is losing oil. oil 1 QT low after driver 908 miles (49272 total miles)...will call Nissan as to what the next step should be...then will contact customer"
they said they should know something by monday.
this is what the service ticket said -
"confirmed engine is losing oil. oil 1 QT low after driver 908 miles (49272 total miles)...will call Nissan as to what the next step should be...then will contact customer"
they said they should know something by monday.
11-10-2005, 01:13 PM
#32
Originally Posted by GBAUER
Still, if it's 1% that's still too high. Think of it this way: would the national highway safety board mandate a recall if 1% of the front left tires fell off the car at 65 mph?
burning oil wont kill you.
btw, nice "fight club" reference
11-10-2005, 01:15 PM
#33
Originally Posted by soonerfan
recalls are for safety issues (tires falling off)
burning oil wont kill you.
btw, nice "fight club" reference
burning oil wont kill you.
btw, nice "fight club" reference
11-11-2005, 05:51 AM
#34
Originally Posted by maxu2
-My car is consuming oil.
-My timing chain rattled at first because the oil was too low. Now I dont let
the oil get that low,but I do let it get low enough for Nissan to document
the consumption.
-My car did get a new short block installed by Nissan (under powertrain
warrenty, I have 56,000 miles) in order to fix the oil consumption.
-My new short block has 1000 miles on it and is still consuming oil at
the same rate it was before. 2 3/4 Qts. every 3000 miles.
-Peak Nissan never mentioned Pre-Cats.
-My timing chain rattled at first because the oil was too low. Now I dont let
the oil get that low,but I do let it get low enough for Nissan to document
the consumption.
-My car did get a new short block installed by Nissan (under powertrain
warrenty, I have 56,000 miles) in order to fix the oil consumption.
-My new short block has 1000 miles on it and is still consuming oil at
the same rate it was before. 2 3/4 Qts. every 3000 miles.
-Peak Nissan never mentioned Pre-Cats.
That makes ZERO sense why Nissan would ever install a new short block, based on the labor time for reassembly. Are you sure you don't mean long block?
11-11-2005, 06:02 AM
#35
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I voted for the sake of my dad's '02 SE. It has about 85,000 miles and runs great, haven't noticed any oil consumption. I'll have to pay closer attention over the next few oil changes, maybe measure the volume.
I actually measured the oil going in and out of my 4th gen after 200k miles and it lost a few ounces, almost nothing. I hope the VQ35DE stays as sweet as the VQ30DDE.
I actually measured the oil going in and out of my 4th gen after 200k miles and it lost a few ounces, almost nothing. I hope the VQ35DE stays as sweet as the VQ30DDE.
11-11-2005, 10:15 AM
#36
I thought I had the rattle but it turned out to be a bad oil fiter. Its been 5 days since I installed a mobil m105 and I have yet to hear the timing chain again. Im 100 miles shy of 140k and no oil burning issues despite the hard driving.
11-11-2005, 10:18 AM
#37
quick question u guys...if the precat is the culprit, then wouldn't 01 maximas be effected too? I believe the 02-03 and 01 share the same front precat (or was it the rear?) but as far as i know, I don't see any oil consumption problems with 01s
11-12-2005, 12:51 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
Still, if it's 1% that's still too high. Think of it this way: would the national highway safety board mandate a recall if 1% of the front left tires fell off the car at 65 mph?
LOL... A for Effort
how would the NHSTA feel if 1% of RADIO ***** failed
11-12-2005, 06:49 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
That makes ZERO sense why Nissan would ever install a new short block, based on the labor time for reassembly. Are you sure you don't mean long block?
They said just a new short block.
And when I brought it back they did not want to believe me so they sealed
my oil in and told me to come back and they would recheck my levels.
They also said I was 1/2 quart low, they topped me off, then sealed it.
funny thing is they never sealed my oil when they gave me the short block
in the first go around.
11-13-2005, 08:24 AM
#40
Originally Posted by maxu2
They said just a new short block.
And when I brought it back they did not want to believe me so they sealed
my oil in and told me to come back and they would recheck my levels.
They also said I was 1/2 quart low, they topped me off, then sealed it.
funny thing is they never sealed my oil when they gave me the short block
in the first go around.
And when I brought it back they did not want to believe me so they sealed
my oil in and told me to come back and they would recheck my levels.
They also said I was 1/2 quart low, they topped me off, then sealed it.
funny thing is they never sealed my oil when they gave me the short block
in the first go around.
Then obviously the problem is not with the rings. It has to be with the valve seals, crankcase vent, or some other vacuum related part up top.