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Old 01-07-2005, 03:01 PM
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2004 brakes on 2000-2003 ???

hey guys, can somebody confirm this

http://www.mossyperformance.com/product/?id=4327

this may be the cheapest BBK possible.
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Old 01-07-2005, 03:31 PM
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looks like they copied the blehmco kit
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Originally Posted by Larrio
looks like they copied the blehmco kit
indeed....looks like this one also uses the 2k4 calipers, though I don't really think those are much of an upgrade from ours, considering they're still single-piston......
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ACtually it's not a copy. I asked Matt about it. And I think it's a good idea. But not really for that price. And unless you really track the hell out of the car, those calipers are fine. The upgrade to the 12.6" rotors is really what's going to make the brakes feel alot better. For the street, you usually want GOOD braking for one/two/few aggressive stops. So fade resistance is less important than that one good emergency stop that keeps you from ramming into the car in front of ya.

If you can find these parts in a boneyard, that would be the best way. That is if you don't need any extra special brackets etc..
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790 bux, wow... I spend 150 on IRotors cross drilled n slotted plated rotors, 180 on the Blehmco kit with the SS brake lines for the front, and 200 for TTZ aluminum calipers off Ebay. 50 bux for Hawk HPS. My brakes stop better, and look bling bling. Problem is most cheap wheels don't clear the big calipers, so no ADR, Konig, Velox etc are going to fit.
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That price is insane. Who the hell would spend that when you are still using stock calipers.
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Old 01-10-2005, 03:58 PM
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i know the price is crazy... but if it's direct bolt on with oem parts with no other hardware involved, it could be done for a fraction of that 700 bucks.
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here is link with some more info... http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/may03/altima_brake/
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The upgrade to the 12.6" rotors is really what's going to make the brakes feel alot better. For the street, you usually want GOOD braking for one/two/few aggressive stops. So fade resistance is less important than that one good emergency stop that keeps you from ramming into the car in front of ya. .
They are $800 bucks. Thats a ridiculous price for a simple upgrade of a bigger rotor. You might as well save your money, and get a better BBK , at that price range. Single piston calipers are pointless, if you are trying to upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If you can find these parts in a boneyard, that would be the best way. That is if you don't need any extra special brackets etc..

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They are $800 bucks. Thats a ridiculous price for a simple upgrade of a bigger rotor. You might as well save your money, and get a better BBK , at that price range. Single piston calipers are pointless, if you are trying to upgrade.
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so...is this saying that the 2k4 calipers are a direct bolt-up to the maxima OEM caliper mounts as well?? Or is a relocation bracket still required (as in Matt's kits)?
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I'd think the relocation bracket is required. Especially if you plan to use the 4 piston Z32 calipers.
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No relocation bracket is required. All you must have is the 04 calipers and rotors. Thicker, larger rotors and much more brake pad surface. Granted the price is steep, but get some rebuilt calipers and some aftermarket rotors and the price will surely become reasonable.

17 inch wheels become mandatory as well.

These will also bolt directly to a 95-99 if the 2 caliper mounting holes in the torque member are enlarged from 12mm to 14mm. Looks like plenty of material there, so I went for it. No problems that I can see.
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oldngivout...let me clarify here.

I know the 2004 rotors fit fine (I use them with the belhmco kit and the 5th gen calipers with relocation bracket).

But are you saying that the 2004 calipers will fit DIRECTLY into the OEM mounting holes on the 5th gen? And they will sit correctly in relation to the rotor?

Also, are you saying that this setup will fit under the 17" SE rims on a 5th gen?

can you post some pics?
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Old 01-10-2005, 05:56 PM
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on a side note....doing a junkyard search, one can EASILY find 2004-5 maxima calipers at junkyards for under $65 each (trust me, I just did the search)....
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Sorry, I have no pics, only experience.

The 04 calipers will fit on the 03 with ZERO mods. The brake pad surface is much greater on the 04 pads, so the caliper is relocated outward away from the axle. This also allows the caliper frame to clear the 04 rotors, which are larger also. All this will clear the 17" 04 Max wheel for sure. I don't see why it will not clear any reasonable 17" wheel, since in the end the caliper is in the same place as your kit.
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I'm only asking because:
I have the OEM 5th gen calipers with 6th gen rotors via the blehmco kit, but would definitely like some more pad surface on the rotors. The blehmco kit I have JUST clears the OEM 17's....but the 6th gen calipers sound like a good upgrade...just want to make sure they'll fit under my OEM 17s that I will use in the winter (G35 18s in the summer)
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Old 01-10-2005, 06:25 PM
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I understand your concern. Sorry I can't provide hard proof that your wheels will clear or not. The 04 wheels have 40mm offset, I think. I can only say the brake parts will fit.
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cool...thanks for the info. This might be worth looking into if I can find some junked calipers....project for the spring!
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Old 01-10-2005, 06:55 PM
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one last question....I assume you used the OEM brake lines when you installed the 6th gen brakes (i.e. they are the correct length, attachment, position, etc.)?
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That's awesome. If my 2k4 rotors continue to warp (~3 months on the drilled/slotted IRotors w/ Bendix Titanium pads so far, no warpage yet...), I may consider this path for my 2000. (using 2k4 calipers & pads so I can keep my OEM 17" wheels)
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Yes, the stock brake lines and fittings will work with no problem. You can always upgrade to stainless lines later if you choose.
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Are you guys saying that the 2K4 rotors AND calipers directly bolt on to the 2003s without any modification or relocation brackets? Has anyone tried this on a 2000 or 01? If this is true, I know what I'm doing this spring.
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yea, if anyone tries this on a 2K please post if it will clear the stock 17's.
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Did it on a 98. It works for certain on that one. Wheels are not stock, though.

But think about it. It clears on the 04 Max. What is the offset on the stock 04 Max 17" wheel, 40mm I think?
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I think the 04 wheels are 17x7 +35mm?
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[QUOTE=oldngivout]No relocation bracket is required. All you must have is the 04 calipers and rotors. Thicker, larger rotors and much more brake pad surface. Granted the price is steep, but get some rebuilt calipers and some aftermarket rotors and the price will surely become reasonable.

17 inch wheels become mandatory as well.

These will also bolt directly to a 95-99 if the 2 caliper mounting holes in the torque member are enlarged from 12mm to 14mm. Looks like plenty of material there, so I went for it. No problems that I can see.[/QUOT

so you installed them?
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I just found some caliper assemblies (6th gen) at a junkyard for $35 each....so when I get 'em, I'll try em (that is, when the weather warms up). Also will do SS lines at the same time. So wait 4-5 weeks and I'll have an answer
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Originally Posted by irish44j
I just found some caliper assemblies (6th gen) at a junkyard for $35 each....so when I get 'em, I'll try em (that is, when the weather warms up). Also will do SS lines at the same time. So wait 4-5 weeks and I'll have an answer
Thanks for trying this irish44j, please let us know as soon as you find out.



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So here's another question on this subject with a twist: Since the new Alty SE-R has 12.6 inch rotors as well (and cooler looking calipers than the 6th gen Max), does the same philosophy hold true??
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I suppose that would depend on if the mounting bracket hole locations are the same....
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Originally Posted by 03blk6mt
So here's another question on this subject with a twist: Since the new Alty SE-R has 12.6 inch rotors as well (and cooler looking calipers than the 6th gen Max), does the same philosophy hold true??
Maybe. I really want to try this with the 6th gen max parts but there is only one problem. You can't really find aftermarket rotors and rebuilt calipers for the 04 max yet. Well, at least I can't. Altima SER calipers are even more rare. You might either have to pay full price at the Nissan dealer (ouch) or wait a couple of years for them to show up on eBay.
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yeah i was thinking about checking the SE-R brakes out, but at the dealer, they would probably be sooo expensive
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Originally Posted by Maxima Dan
Maybe. I really want to try this with the 6th gen max parts but there is only one problem. You can't really find aftermarket rotors and rebuilt calipers for the 04 max yet. Well, at least I can't. Altima SER calipers are even more rare. You might either have to pay full price at the Nissan dealer (ouch) or wait a couple of years for them to show up on eBay.

Who's the guy that works for Courtesy Nissan? Wonder if he can do anything, or maybe some kind of GB? I would only want the calipers anyway for the cool SE-R logo, and go with some aftermarket CD/Slotted rotors.
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Yeah im having trouble finding aftermarket rotors for my 6th gen. As far as I know, nobody makes em. Someone told me the Irotors were just some crap brand with their name on em. Either way I dont see the 04 rotors listed on there site anyways.
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I really don't want any slotted or cross drilled rotors. Just a good beefy rotor that wasn't made in China. Now if the Alti SER rotor is the same size as the 04 Max, I'm sure we will see some decent rotors fairly soon. After all, it's more of a tuner car than the new max.
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Originally Posted by Glude
Yeah im having trouble finding aftermarket rotors for my 6th gen. As far as I know, nobody makes em. Someone told me the Irotors were just some crap brand with their name on em. Either way I dont see the 04 rotors listed on there site anyways.
I found these but dunno if you would like them: ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33564
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
I found these but dunno if you would like them: ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33564

I saw those, but it makes me real suspicious that Brembo doesn't list them on their site. Has anyone tried them yet?
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Originally Posted by Maxima Dan
I saw those, but it makes me real suspicious that Brembo doesn't list them on their site. Has anyone tried them yet?
I bought a front and back kit from someone else that claimed they were brembo for my 02, and if they were fake or a brembo blank drilled I dunno, but stopping power was incredible and lots of stopping control was gained.....

I don't know bout this guy but should be the same results.... but who's going to spend 265 to find out huh?
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That is BS. Brembo does not make rotors for our cars. Ive seen that before and didnt mention it because its not an option to buy rotors from someone who claims they sell a part that isnt being made yet.
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