Someone is trying to sell my Max on Ebay!
01-11-2004, 09:14 AM
#41
prob same guy that tried to sell me the bimmer
if you get ahold of him, try and find out his story...auto broker? in tx temp on business, has dealership in az? that was the guys story that i spoke to! f#@ker! all the stuff looked legit too, escroe site, vin#, i even went to the bmw dealer and had them verify the vin and service records. everything checked out. this **** really ****es me off, if you couldn't tell by my email to him!
if you get ahold of him, try and find out his story...auto broker? in tx temp on business, has dealership in az? that was the guys story that i spoke to! f#@ker! all the stuff looked legit too, escroe site, vin#, i even went to the bmw dealer and had them verify the vin and service records. everything checked out. this **** really ****es me off, if you couldn't tell by my email to him!
01-11-2004, 09:41 AM
#45
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Whoever is doing it isn't selling YOUR car. He is just using the pictures to sell nothing. It's a scam and he probably hijacked someones's ebay account and is using it for criminal purposes. It happens all the time. Go look for a Harley Davidson on ebay, you'll see many "great" deals. But when you contact these people they are in Germany, Holland etc etc, and you need to send them all the money to a friends friend and crap like that. So bottom line....contact ebay.
01-11-2004, 12:26 PM
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Wow guys, I posted this last night and saw a couple responses, then I logged in today to see everythings already wrapped up! 
Sorry to see I missed out on the drama! 
I really appreciate everyone's help pushing this guy to fess up. Apparently I should've been more forceful - he never responded to my email, but looks like you guys had no problem getting a good fight outta him! It's always a great to see the org fighting crime!
jjames - Thanks for posting the link. Wild stuff! I noticed the article mentioned non-refundable deposits are a common thread among scams on Ebay, and his auction was no different: "Buyers must make a $1000.00 non-refundable deposit within 24 hours of action end, by paypal , money order or certified check."
Also, the article mentioned mispellings were common - This auction had plenty of examples:
Unuque colors combination which is very hard to find
Custom Titanuim Shiny Rims which are very rear
Wow, there's 4 mispellings in two lines.
I have no doubt you guys at a minimum just saved someone $1000 bucks, likely more!
Sorry to see I missed out on the drama! I really appreciate everyone's help pushing this guy to fess up. Apparently I should've been more forceful - he never responded to my email, but looks like you guys had no problem getting a good fight outta him! It's always a great to see the org fighting crime!
jjames - Thanks for posting the link. Wild stuff! I noticed the article mentioned non-refundable deposits are a common thread among scams on Ebay, and his auction was no different: "Buyers must make a $1000.00 non-refundable deposit within 24 hours of action end, by paypal , money order or certified check."
Also, the article mentioned mispellings were common - This auction had plenty of examples:
Unuque colors combination which is very hard to find
Custom Titanuim Shiny Rims which are very rear
Wow, there's 4 mispellings in two lines.
I have no doubt you guys at a minimum just saved someone $1000 bucks, likely more!
01-11-2004, 12:37 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by housecor
"Buyers must make a $1000.00 non-refundable deposit within 24 hours of action end, by paypal , money order or certified check."
01-11-2004, 01:12 PM
#51
good luck with sueing...like mentioned before, the guy prob jacked someones ebay acct and therefore you cant trace him. you could report it to the secret service for internet fraud...i had to do that with the incident i mentioned earlier.
01-11-2004, 01:17 PM
#52
Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
not that this audience is big enough for this to make a difference, but I also believe that policy is against ebay's rules....not the non-refundable deposit, but I believe (and I may be wrong) that EVERY auction on ebay has the same rules that state the buyer has up to one week (maybe 10 days) to pay, and it's against the rules to state someone must pay within a fewer amount of days or you'll leave negative feedback.
Also, if a seller really wanted, he could leave negative feedback the same day the auction closed. That portion is irrelevant.
For what? There has to be actual damages for a judgement to be awarded.
01-11-2004, 01:20 PM
#54
Originally Posted by housecor
Get this - Someone in NY is selling my car on Ebay! Someone logged onto my cardomain site and brought this to my attention. He pointed out that the seller was using a bunch of my pics, but didn't get a response.
Funny thing is, the guy is claiming my car is Titanium Silver, which isn't even true. Personally, I think it's really deviant to post pictures of someone else's vehicle since it's not even the vehicle he's selling!
Do you guys agree this is wrong? I'd like to alert those bidding on my car on Ebay that they're not looking at the car they're trying to buy. Who knows what condition his vehicle is in! I'm not sure where to run with this. Suggestions??
Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2452824379
Funny thing is, the guy is claiming my car is Titanium Silver, which isn't even true.
Personally, I think it's really deviant to post pictures of someone else's vehicle since it's not even the vehicle he's selling!Do you guys agree this is wrong? I'd like to alert those bidding on my car on Ebay that they're not looking at the car they're trying to buy. Who knows what condition his vehicle is in! I'm not sure where to run with this. Suggestions??
Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2452824379
haha....someone tried selling his maxima on ebay using my car's pictures a while ago. i just told him not to use the pictures anymore and he somehow never responded again...i'd say run by the seller first, and then contact Ebay.
01-11-2004, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k3TitaniumSe
Man that sucks. Hope nobody gets scammed. BTW is it true that there were only 500 titanium edition maximas made??? That's what the seller said.
01-11-2004, 01:57 PM
#59
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I e-mailed the top bidder and this is the reply I received. Notice the last name of the top bidder!!!!
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From: "Feliks Sheynfeld" <fsheynfeld@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: asu174@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Maxima
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:22:02 +0000
Hey,
Thank you for your concern but I think that you should take it easy
because
I also live in Staten Island and I went to look at the car. The car
looks
identicle to the one that were posted on ebay and I am thinking to
purchase
it. Aslo, I checked the vin# and everything came back clean. Thank's
again
for your concern!!!
>From: asu174@yahoo.com
>To: fsheynfeld@hotmail.com
>Subject: Maxima
>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:58:25 PST
>
>
>This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding
system.
>If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the
member and
>not through eBay.
>
>eBay Marketplace Safety Tip:
>If this email is an offer to sell you an item without winning the
listing
>on eBay, please report it to us at
>http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ebay-sale.html.
>Please do not respond to it. Regardless of the apparent feedback of
the
>sender or any claims they might make, such an offer is not only
against our
>rules, but it is extremely risky. It is unsafe to purchase such an
item
>through
>a transaction that is not on our site. You will lose the benefit of
eBay's
>purchase protection programs, and run the risk of losing your money.
>
>--------------------
>
>
>To member: nhl_91
>From member: pliskin3
>
>--------------------
>
>
>FYI- Those pics are not of the actual car. look here.
>
>http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=277096
>
I e-mailed the top bidder and this is the reply I received. Notice the last name of the top bidder!!!!
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From: "Feliks Sheynfeld" <fsheynfeld@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: asu174@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Maxima
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:22:02 +0000
Hey,
Thank you for your concern but I think that you should take it easy
because
I also live in Staten Island and I went to look at the car. The car
looks
identicle to the one that were posted on ebay and I am thinking to
purchase
it. Aslo, I checked the vin# and everything came back clean. Thank's
again
for your concern!!!
>From: asu174@yahoo.com
>To: fsheynfeld@hotmail.com
>Subject: Maxima
>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:58:25 PST
>
>
>This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding
system.
>If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the
member and
>not through eBay.
>
>eBay Marketplace Safety Tip:
>If this email is an offer to sell you an item without winning the
listing
>on eBay, please report it to us at
>http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ebay-sale.html.
>Please do not respond to it. Regardless of the apparent feedback of
the
>sender or any claims they might make, such an offer is not only
against our
>rules, but it is extremely risky. It is unsafe to purchase such an
item
>through
>a transaction that is not on our site. You will lose the benefit of
eBay's
>purchase protection programs, and run the risk of losing your money.
>
>--------------------
>
>
>To member: nhl_91
>From member: pliskin3
>
>--------------------
>
>
>FYI- Those pics are not of the actual car. look here.
>
>http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=277096
>
01-11-2004, 02:02 PM
#61
For those of you not following along.....
The top bidder was this guy. He was upping the bids with a different account since the beginning of the auction in order to meet the reserve.
Then he was DUMB enough to reply to me pretending he was the top bidder not thinking that the last name would show up on the message.
SCAM SCAM SCAM
The top bidder was this guy. He was upping the bids with a different account since the beginning of the auction in order to meet the reserve.
Then he was DUMB enough to reply to me pretending he was the top bidder not thinking that the last name would show up on the message.
SCAM SCAM SCAM
01-11-2004, 02:23 PM
#62
Reported to ebay AGAIN.......
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
01-11-2004, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by asu174
Reported to ebay AGAIN.......
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Good detective work.
01-11-2004, 03:19 PM
#67
Originally Posted by asu174
Reported to ebay AGAIN.......
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
01-11-2004, 03:59 PM
#69
Originally Posted by soonerfan
so he was actually hoping someone would just send him money for a car that didnt exist and he wouldnt go to jail? thats grand larceny right?
01-11-2004, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IWNTMORHP!!
good luck with sueing...like mentioned before, the guy prob jacked someones ebay acct and therefore you cant trace him. you could report it to the secret service for internet fraud...i had to do that with the incident i mentioned earlier.
01-11-2004, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric425
The U.S. Secret service? The secret service is the president's bodyguards.... what the hell would they care about internet fraud?
01-11-2004, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by asu174
Reported to ebay AGAIN.......
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
I just can't believe he was stupid enough to respond from the same email account! This guy is a clear reminder of why so many thieves get caught: The average thief is borderline retarded!!
01-11-2004, 07:56 PM
#78
Originally Posted by irvine78
no...i think that's just plain stupid...
I think in GA it's falls under the "Intent to commint theft by deception"...
Also, I'm sure that using the internet for this purpose could fall under one of the various catch all laws of both the FTC and FCC...but I could be mistaken.
01-11-2004, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by asu174
Reported to ebay AGAIN.......
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
Zorick143 is really Zorick Sheynfeld (zorick143@hotmail.com). nhl_91 is really Feliks Sheynfeld (fsheynfeld@hotmail.com). Zorick was using Felik's ID to raise bids on the price of his car.
It should also be noted that Zorick posted pictures of someone else's car that he found on the internet. There really is no car for sale.
01-12-2004, 12:56 AM
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I remember someone was doing this same thing, they used pictures linked directly from a site in which the product shown was not their actual product (similar to what is going on here). So the owner of the pictures (and original websit) changed the pics to obese women doing sexual acts, but by doing this keeping the URL of the picture the same, hence making the person's ebay auction show the very graphic pics. It was pretty funny.