let's have a dicussion about MAF
11-25-2003, 05:01 PM
#41
Originally Posted by sascuderi
I really think that is it and have posted my theory before. Many have lost their MAFs during WOT. I bet the MAF just can't take the increase in voltage during WOT and after repeated WOT they just go. Many have lost their MAFs on this board because they are aggressive drivers with frequent WOT.
So...to protect your MAF you need to drive like grandpa and never, never press the gas more than 1/3 of the way.
So...to protect your MAF you need to drive like grandpa and never, never press the gas more than 1/3 of the way.
I already got my computer updated, that's why I was wonderig why my MAF still went bad.
11-25-2003, 05:05 PM
#42
Originally Posted by Ryanb126
The original MAF price when i blew mine a year ago was around $400. I just recently installed a new PR CAI so i went to the dealer and talked to the parts guy who i'm friendly with and also gives me a discount since i'm in Houston Nissan Enthusiasts (houston nissan club). I asked him just for grins how much a new MAF would be in case i blew this one, and he stated it would probably be around $400 but he looked it up in the computer anyways. His draw dropped when he saw it was listed at around $105 I think. Evidently, the part number on them has been changed implying that a there is a new MAF out, and it's only $105 now. With the discount it was 88 for me so I went and bought one to keep in the trunk just in case I blew mine at the track or something. ****es me off that nissan took my $400 a year ago though 
its just that most of the nissan dealers don't know how to(or dont want to) read the parts list correctly, and that's why they think they can't just sell the sensor by itself.
In my case, I purchased a 2k1 MAF sensor for around 105 from a local nissan dealer (Peachtree Nissan), that's like 3 months ago.
When I called them yesterday, and gave them the same part number, they told me that can only sell the whole assembly for $500.
I don't know if they are lying or ont, because 3 months the same part number was $105.
Anyways, I call DaveB and gave him the same part number, he was able to sell me just the sensor.
So, my conclusion is that most of the dealers are not willing to sell the sensor separate. Probably because they want to make money from it, because they know you need the sensor to run the car. So if you don't have any connections, you have to buy the $500 one from them anyways.
11-25-2003, 06:38 PM
#43
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well mine is an 02 and at about 25,000 with jwt pop charger and an upper pipe it blew on the way home from the track and i wasn't able to change it but the dealer covered it under warrranty as long as i put the stock intake back in so i had it in till about 33,000 then put the jwt pop back in and left out the upper pipe now with 44,000 its still fine knock on wood but i may take it out cause i'm afraid everytime i drive it that its gonna blow
11-25-2003, 07:05 PM
#44
So does anyone here have a "connection" that can get the 105 dollar one for a 2k...I would be interested in getting one for a backup...Or anyone know the part number for just the sensor and not the whole assembly?
11-25-2003, 07:07 PM
#45
Originally Posted by irish44j
So does anyone here have a "connection" that can get the 105 dollar one for a 2k...I would be interested in getting one for a backup...Or anyone know the part number for just the sensor and not the whole assembly?
1-888-254-6060
He is super nice
11-29-2003, 09:04 PM
#49
Don't worry, it's 60k on your engine and drivetrain. My light came on at 37k and at first they told me that it was out of warranty. I argued that the light said to check ENGINE and that the engine has a 60k warranty. They conceded and fixed the car.
However, I think that Tossin' an extra one in the trunk is a good idea.
However, I think that Tossin' an extra one in the trunk is a good idea.
11-30-2003, 12:57 AM
#50
I'm on my 5th MAF on my 01 GXE, I repleaced 4 of em under warranty with a PR CAI and even NOS installed. I used to work there as a tech. But then when the 4th one failed I bought a whole MAF assembly- some dealers wanted 500 bux for it, my ex-employee discount was 120 bux for whole assembly. I got it, and then ordered up 3 more MAF elements that U can just remove and pull out = 2 screws. Those came in and I have yet to use em. No problems anymore... But I do keep 3 in my car. Basically car will go into fail safe mode and won't let ya go past 25% throttle, 2400RPMs. On a 5spd thats 60MPH. I once remember driving to Nissan to get a MAF for 30 miles at 60MPH on a road I usually fly at over 80MPH... it sucked ***, even the school buses where passing me !
11-30-2003, 06:59 AM
#51
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i just put my stock intake back in because i don't trust it i already blew one and keeping the stock intake in the trunk sucks plus i don't want to pay 500 bucks for a new one oh and might i add that the stock intake sucks i miss the other one already hopefully somebody will decide to make an aftermarket maf. oh and whats the part# of the better maf?
11-30-2003, 08:03 AM
#52
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FRAM to stock and now my SES is on
I don't know if this is just coincidence...2001 with 44K, just had the oil changed at the dealer. I have replaced the air filter every 15K with just a FRAM air filter. The service manager came up to me and explained to me the problems they have had with FRAM air filters, specifically the fit, and because of this problem they have had some maximas and altimas breakdown.
He suggested using the Nissan stock filter, so I said okay. Four days later my SES (service engine soon) light is now on, my guess the MAF, but the timing is just odd. Any suggestions???
He suggested using the Nissan stock filter, so I said okay. Four days later my SES (service engine soon) light is now on, my guess the MAF, but the timing is just odd. Any suggestions???
11-30-2003, 09:11 AM
#53
I dunno where ya guys get 500 dollars from, the part U all need is around 70 bux MSRP, dealer cost like 48 bux. Someone trying to rip ya off really badlly for a MAF. I know we SE-R guys swap MAFs with other cars etc... I wonder if Technosquare can program the ECU for lets say Cobra, TTZ, or Q45 MAF ? I had good luck with those in my SE-R under 24psi of boost.
11-30-2003, 11:27 AM
#55
Originally Posted by BioMaxDDS
I can't search.........
What is the deal with MassAirFLow sensor?
At first, people were saying its because when we clean the K&N filter, the oil got to the sensor, and that's the cause for it to malfunction
Then, there was a TSB out to update our computer. That didn't work
So, what is the deal?
Is there any reason why it keeps on failing?
I'm going on my 4th MassAirFlow sensor....
I didn't clean my K&N filter (i bought a new one instead), that didn't work
I went and did the TSB, that didn't work
I went ahead with 2k1 MAF, that didn't work
so what should I do next, I know I'm going back to stock intake
but what about the people with aftermarket intake?
Does Nissan purposely made a weak MAF, so that they can make mad lots of profit from it?
What is the deal with MassAirFLow sensor?
At first, people were saying its because when we clean the K&N filter, the oil got to the sensor, and that's the cause for it to malfunction
Then, there was a TSB out to update our computer. That didn't work
So, what is the deal?
Is there any reason why it keeps on failing?
I'm going on my 4th MassAirFlow sensor....
I didn't clean my K&N filter (i bought a new one instead), that didn't work
I went and did the TSB, that didn't work
I went ahead with 2k1 MAF, that didn't work
so what should I do next, I know I'm going back to stock intake
but what about the people with aftermarket intake?
Does Nissan purposely made a weak MAF, so that they can make mad lots of profit from it?
11-30-2003, 11:30 AM
#56
Originally Posted by tdogg169
I have a K&N filter and I think mine is going out. I call the dealer and it is 500 buck. Where can i get one for 88.
11-30-2003, 11:33 AM
#57
Originally Posted by NitDawg
I don't know if this is just coincidence...2001 with 44K, just had the oil changed at the dealer. I have replaced the air filter every 15K with just a FRAM air filter. The service manager came up to me and explained to me the problems they have had with FRAM air filters, specifically the fit, and because of this problem they have had some maximas and altimas breakdown.
He suggested using the Nissan stock filter, so I said okay. Four days later my SES (service engine soon) light is now on, my guess the MAF, but the timing is just odd. Any suggestions???
He suggested using the Nissan stock filter, so I said okay. Four days later my SES (service engine soon) light is now on, my guess the MAF, but the timing is just odd. Any suggestions???
11-30-2003, 04:55 PM
#58
Originally Posted by dansmax2003
So, now i'm really curious, does everyone here had a problem with their MAF sensor already? Sounds like it is a very very comon problem and it scares me. I didn't know that it was such a big issue with Maximas before i got my car.
Are there any people who have more than 40k miles on their Max and still keep their original MAF sensor?
I have a 2003 Max with 26k miles, all stock, and after reading all this, i'm wondering how can i avoid this problem. Sounds like keeping my stock intake and stock filter is the best "solution"....or that doesn't help either? what do you think?
Also, if the MAF fails, is the car driveable (even sluggish) or i'll need a tow truck? I don't want to have a new car and sit on the side of the freeway.
Are there any people who have more than 40k miles on their Max and still keep their original MAF sensor?
I have a 2003 Max with 26k miles, all stock, and after reading all this, i'm wondering how can i avoid this problem. Sounds like keeping my stock intake and stock filter is the best "solution"....or that doesn't help either? what do you think?
Also, if the MAF fails, is the car driveable (even sluggish) or i'll need a tow truck? I don't want to have a new car and sit on the side of the freeway.
12-10-2003, 07:10 AM
#59
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I dunno where ya guys get 500 dollars from, the part U all need is around 70 bux MSRP, dealer cost like 48 bux. Someone trying to rip ya off really badlly for a MAF. I know we SE-R guys swap MAFs with other cars etc... I wonder if Technosquare can program the ECU for lets say Cobra, TTZ, or Q45 MAF ? I had good luck with those in my SE-R under 24psi of boost.
12-11-2003, 04:43 AM
#60
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SES turned off and has stayed off
Well the SES and gas light happened to go on at the same time. The service rep told me the most common cause of the SES is some gas tank vaccuum-type sensor (can't remember exactly what he said). Anyway, after a fill-up and making sure the cap was on tight I had to wait for the 5 drive sequences to see if would finally go away, and it did. That was 2K miles ago, so I think its all good, although the timing of the SES and the air filter was a bit strange at first.
12-11-2003, 06:43 AM
#61
TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR (I THINK)THE 2000-2001 MAFs cost a mear $100
The 2002-2003 MAFs cost a lot more.....$400-$500.
The 2003 is less prone to damage by an intake than the 2002.
SO THE WAY TO GO IS THE 2003 MAF. I have 1 and it still works with my intake. Of course if you don't mind the SES light being on, You can put on an 00-01 MAF on an 02-03.....Result=the SES light will be on but you can still drive on it.
The 2002-2003 MAFs cost a lot more.....$400-$500.
The 2003 is less prone to damage by an intake than the 2002.
SO THE WAY TO GO IS THE 2003 MAF. I have 1 and it still works with my intake. Of course if you don't mind the SES light being on, You can put on an 00-01 MAF on an 02-03.....Result=the SES light will be on but you can still drive on it.
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