Lost to a Civic
09-06-2003, 05:40 PM
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Lost to a Civic
First time ever at the track and my best time was 14.9 @ 94. I was OK with this since I had been running mid-grade gas, the track is at 2000' and I had no traction at all (even without poping the clutch I could spin all the way through 1st)
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
09-06-2003, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
First time ever at the track and my best time was 14.9 @ 94. I was OK with this since I had been running mid-grade gas, the track is at 2000' and I had no traction at all (even without poping the clutch I could spin all the way through 1st)
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
something definetly doesn't sound right here........from my understanding, you're saying that civic didn't have an engine swap and there was no form of FI involved?? Either you had a really bad launch and he was a really good driver, or there's more under his hood than what he told you. I guess if there were cams and headers done to it, along with intake, exhaust, etc, it could do it, but highly unlikely.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
09-06-2003, 06:15 PM
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dude don't sweat it. 
There are ALWAYS going to be faster cars out there than you, and as nick mentioned, you should never expect much your first time at the track. That's just to get a feel for things and learning. 
So what kind of Civic was this? The old hatchbacks (late-80/early-90 timeframe) can be brutal with a B16A swap (civic si motor, 160hp, or 170hp if it's the JDM version). They're only 2000 lb and can easily run low-14's just with the swap. Add some bolt-ons and they can run 13's all motor, or still 14's probably at 2000'.
If it was a newer body style (late-90's/early-00) then it had to be FI'ed. The newer ones are now at 2500-2700 lb and the B16A swaps just don't pack the punch that they used to in the old hatches.
There are ALWAYS going to be faster cars out there than you, and as nick mentioned, you should never expect much your first time at the track. That's just to get a feel for things and learning. So what kind of Civic was this? The old hatchbacks (late-80/early-90 timeframe) can be brutal with a B16A swap (civic si motor, 160hp, or 170hp if it's the JDM version). They're only 2000 lb and can easily run low-14's just with the swap. Add some bolt-ons and they can run 13's all motor, or still 14's probably at 2000'.
If it was a newer body style (late-90's/early-00) then it had to be FI'ed. The newer ones are now at 2500-2700 lb and the B16A swaps just don't pack the punch that they used to in the old hatches.
09-06-2003, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VQPowerSE
I guess if there were cams and headers done to it, along with intake, exhaust, etc, it could do it, but highly unlikely.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Not even at sea-level. That Civic was definitely packing some goods, whatever it was.
09-06-2003, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
First time ever at the track and my best time was 14.9 @ 94. I was OK with this since I had been running mid-grade gas, the track is at 2000' and I had no traction at all (even without poping the clutch I could spin all the way through 1st)
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
My first run was 'against' an old Challenger which ran 11.1 @ 120. Anyway, I got 9 runs in total and beat a Mazdaspeed Protege, a SPECV and a Dakota RT. I did let the Maxima community down by loosing to a Civic. Excluding an engine swap, can a Civic run 14.1 @ 100 without some sort of FI?
That 14.9 @ 94 is something to be proud of.
09-06-2003, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Not even at sea-level. That Civic was definitely packing some goods, whatever it was.
09-06-2003, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VQPowerSE
something definetly doesn't sound right here........from my understanding, you're saying that civic didn't have an engine swap and there was no form of FI involved?? Either you had a really bad launch and he was a really good driver, or there's more under his hood than what he told you. I guess if there were cams and headers done to it, along with intake, exhaust, etc, it could do it, but highly unlikely.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
09-06-2003, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Probably a B16A swap and some bolt-on's.
If he was turboed or S/Ced too he probably would have been running 12's or 13's.
If he was turboed or S/Ced too he probably would have been running 12's or 13's.
had a RSX type S motor in it and its was gutted out runnin hard 14.2'2
to 14.4's in several runs- After all the shyt I saw today at the track-
Anything is possible
09-06-2003, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
At Englishtown today there was a bubbleback Civic (early 90's) that
had a RSX type S motor in it and its was gutted out runnin hard 14.2'2
to 14.4's in several runs- After all the shyt I saw today at the track-
Anything is possible
had a RSX type S motor in it and its was gutted out runnin hard 14.2'2
to 14.4's in several runs- After all the shyt I saw today at the track-
Anything is possible
I bet the car is capable of more too.
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