Need a "how to" for a ghetto box install
04-20-2003, 04:39 PM
#41
Originally posted by asu174
I kinda figured that you would have to cut it open on a 2k2. I'm going to leave it "as is" with the GAB then. The noise levels are relatively louder now with the box cut open anyhow.
I kinda figured that you would have to cut it open on a 2k2. I'm going to leave it "as is" with the GAB then. The noise levels are relatively louder now with the box cut open anyhow.
04-20-2003, 05:15 PM
#42
Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
Nice, sand it down so its nice 'n smooth. Do you like your new car more than your old one? I thought I might have seen you yesterday...
Nice, sand it down so its nice 'n smooth. Do you like your new car more than your old one? I thought I might have seen you yesterday...
I love it. The power is awesome. But the handling is horrendous......absolutely God-awful. I'm hesitant to keep my stock struts with Eibachs, but I can't wait another two weeks or so for the KYB GR2 group buy to happen. But I am definitely going to be buying a RSB this time around.
Yesterday.....we drove up from our house to the dog park in Scottsdale. We also ate lunch at Shea and Tatum at noonish.
04-20-2003, 06:21 PM
#43
Originally posted by asu174
I love it. The power is awesome. But the handling is horrendous......absolutely God-awful.
I love it. The power is awesome. But the handling is horrendous......absolutely God-awful.
04-20-2003, 06:26 PM
#44
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So I've now bought all the parts I need for GAB, a 3" to 3" Coupler, Some 3" dryer hose. I can't remember the part number for the K&N Dropin on a 2K2 though, anyone? I'm going to try this tomorrow. So much for going in to the dealer with a busted MAF and expecting warranty :-)
04-20-2003, 06:32 PM
#45
Originally posted by Neal728
So I've now bought all the parts I need for GAB, a 3" to 3" Coupler, Some 3" dryer hose. I can't remember the part number for the K&N Dropin on a 2K2 though, anyone? I'm going to try this tomorrow. So much for going in to the dealer with a busted MAF and expecting warranty :-)
So I've now bought all the parts I need for GAB, a 3" to 3" Coupler, Some 3" dryer hose. I can't remember the part number for the K&N Dropin on a 2K2 though, anyone? I'm going to try this tomorrow. So much for going in to the dealer with a busted MAF and expecting warranty :-)
04-20-2003, 06:35 PM
#46
Originally posted by asu174
I can't find my dremmel sanding bit and everything is closed for Easter.
I love it. The power is awesome. But the handling is horrendous......absolutely God-awful. I'm hesitant to keep my stock struts with Eibachs, but I can't wait another two weeks or so for the KYB GR2 group buy to happen. But I am definitely going to be buying a RSB this time around.
Yesterday.....we drove up from our house to the dog park in Scottsdale. We also ate lunch at Shea and Tatum at noonish.
I can't find my dremmel sanding bit and everything is closed for Easter.
I love it. The power is awesome. But the handling is horrendous......absolutely God-awful. I'm hesitant to keep my stock struts with Eibachs, but I can't wait another two weeks or so for the KYB GR2 group buy to happen. But I am definitely going to be buying a RSB this time around.
Yesterday.....we drove up from our house to the dog park in Scottsdale. We also ate lunch at Shea and Tatum at noonish.
04-20-2003, 06:39 PM
#48
Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
Well then I definitely didnt see you. You really should get an RSB. They make more of a difference than springs by far. None of you AZ guys have one of these...with our roads, why not?
Well then I definitely didnt see you. You really should get an RSB. They make more of a difference than springs by far. None of you AZ guys have one of these...with our roads, why not?
maybe ill take that into consideration but knowing me you never know what ill pull out next. 
04-20-2003, 07:35 PM
#49
Originally posted by HitManSE
This is the 1st time you have driven a max with the stock suspension is it not?
This is the 1st time you have driven a max with the stock suspension is it not?
04-21-2003, 04:38 PM
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Hey guys, just a question... I had told one of my friends about this Ghetto Air box and
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
04-21-2003, 04:44 PM
#55
Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
Hey guys, just a question... I had told one of my friends about this Ghetto Air box and
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
Hey guys, just a question... I had told one of my friends about this Ghetto Air box and
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
04-21-2003, 06:50 PM
#57
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
You're gonna get a lot of dirt into your engine and into your intake no matter what you use. I've never heard of anyone blowing up their engine from a mod like this. This hasn't been dynoed back to back with any other intake setups yet that I know of. This intake feels better than the Frankencar and sounds pretty similiar as well. Its way better than the Injen performanc-wise but the Injen kills it in looks.
You're gonna get a lot of dirt into your engine and into your intake no matter what you use. I've never heard of anyone blowing up their engine from a mod like this. This hasn't been dynoed back to back with any other intake setups yet that I know of. This intake feels better than the Frankencar and sounds pretty similiar as well. Its way better than the Injen performanc-wise but the Injen kills it in looks.
04-21-2003, 06:52 PM
#58
Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
Hey guys, just a question... I had told one of my friends about this Ghetto Air box and
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
Hey guys, just a question... I had told one of my friends about this Ghetto Air box and
he told me that it isnt good for the car because more dirt gets into the engine and that ill have to change my oil sooner and ill have a higher chance of "blowing" my engine. He also said that people think K&N filters are good but it lets more dust and dirt in at the price of more airflow and isnt good for a small amount of HP one gains. Can you guys tell me if any of this is legit? Also, I want to know how this is different from a CAI in terms of power and the effects to the car. What kind of HP gains are there if any.. Thanks...
04-21-2003, 06:52 PM
#59
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Originally posted by Neal728
Looks, Shmooks. Hard for someone to see how nice my engine bay is when I'm pulling away. All they see is the debadged trunk and the dual 4" Powertech, which is the way I like it :-)
Looks, Shmooks. Hard for someone to see how nice my engine bay is when I'm pulling away. All they see is the debadged trunk and the dual 4" Powertech, which is the way I like it :-)
Thanks Dave.
04-21-2003, 11:13 PM
#66
Originally posted by 2kGLE
o ****, really? 2k2_6spd, could you clairify this? And if possible, could you post the dynos? Thanks.
o ****, really? 2k2_6spd, could you clairify this? And if possible, could you post the dynos? Thanks.
04-21-2003, 11:29 PM
#67
Originally posted by HitManSE
Dude at the track I say a stock 2k2 auto run 5 15.0 passes, when we switched his stock box out with just the top part of the GAB he ran 4 14.7 passes at 95mph and one pass of 14.6 sec at 96mph. I say not too shabby of an improvment for just half a GAB. A gain of .3-.4 in the 1/4 ET and 3-4mph faster traps which obviously shows the power has increased. Someone else here with just the GAB and a cattman catback was runnin 102.Xmph in his traps but due to the junk OEM potenzas he was hitting 2.4 60ft times and got no better then 14.4 that night and he was consistantly trappin 101mph and hit 102 twice. So after visual proof of what this mod does then I would have to say im a firm beliver in the GAB mod.
Dude at the track I say a stock 2k2 auto run 5 15.0 passes, when we switched his stock box out with just the top part of the GAB he ran 4 14.7 passes at 95mph and one pass of 14.6 sec at 96mph. I say not too shabby of an improvment for just half a GAB. A gain of .3-.4 in the 1/4 ET and 3-4mph faster traps which obviously shows the power has increased. Someone else here with just the GAB and a cattman catback was runnin 102.Xmph in his traps but due to the junk OEM potenzas he was hitting 2.4 60ft times and got no better then 14.4 that night and he was consistantly trappin 101mph and hit 102 twice. So after visual proof of what this mod does then I would have to say im a firm beliver in the GAB mod.
Too damn hot in phoenix...
04-22-2003, 04:38 PM
#71
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Originally posted by HitManSE
Dude at the track I say a stock 2k2 auto run 5 15.0 passes, when we switched his stock box out with just the top part of the GAB he ran 4 14.7 passes at 95mph and one pass of 14.6 sec at 96mph. I say not too shabby of an improvment for just half a GAB. A gain of .3-.4 in the 1/4 ET and 3-4mph faster traps which obviously shows the power has increased. Someone else here with just the GAB and a cattman catback was runnin 102.Xmph in his traps but due to the junk OEM potenzas he was hitting 2.4 60ft times and got no better then 14.4 that night and he was consistantly trappin 101mph and hit 102 twice. So after visual proof of what this mod does then I would have to say im a firm beliver in the GAB mod.
Dude at the track I say a stock 2k2 auto run 5 15.0 passes, when we switched his stock box out with just the top part of the GAB he ran 4 14.7 passes at 95mph and one pass of 14.6 sec at 96mph. I say not too shabby of an improvment for just half a GAB. A gain of .3-.4 in the 1/4 ET and 3-4mph faster traps which obviously shows the power has increased. Someone else here with just the GAB and a cattman catback was runnin 102.Xmph in his traps but due to the junk OEM potenzas he was hitting 2.4 60ft times and got no better then 14.4 that night and he was consistantly trappin 101mph and hit 102 twice. So after visual proof of what this mod does then I would have to say im a firm beliver in the GAB mod.
04-22-2003, 04:40 PM
#72
Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
Does the GAB mod void warrantee and will it prevent me from getting the extended one? Thanks...
Does the GAB mod void warrantee and will it prevent me from getting the extended one? Thanks...
2KGLE- I never said you dissed it or anything, I dont know how you got that but regardless I think the only thing left is for dave to answer your question...
04-22-2003, 05:08 PM
#73
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Originally posted by HitManSE
2KGLE- I never said you dissed it or anything, I dont know how you got that but regardless I think the only thing left is for dave to answer your question...
2KGLE- I never said you dissed it or anything, I dont know how you got that but regardless I think the only thing left is for dave to answer your question...
O well, Dave will be back sooner or latter. If he got 4hp more than a Frankencar i might pull my frankencar/stillen intake out and give this a try. I already have everything i need sitting in my garage.
Anyone compare the two on the high end? I'm sure the GAB is great on the low end because it is getting nice cool air, while a frankencar gets warm air from the engine bay. I just don't think a GAB would be able to flow the same amount at 100+ as a frankencar, due to the stock airbox and midpipe thing.
Also, has anyone thought of using a ram cold air duct like the GAB to bring cold air into the bay, but using a frankencar intake? Obviously, you wouldnt get the cold air right away from a stop, but it would bring in a whole lot more cold air to the intake area than the stock silencer when you are cruising. I posted a thread about this but got no response. I did this and thought i was just crazy or something for feeling better acceleration at low speeds and less lag after beating on the car for a while. But, today it was raining so i pluged the tube and my car seems to lag again from low-speed rolls. I want to put a thermometer by the intake to see if theres a difference but i dont have one yet. Any thoughts?
04-22-2003, 05:26 PM
#74
Originally posted by 2kGLE
O well, Dave will be back sooner or latter. If he got 4hp more than a Frankencar i might pull my frankencar/stillen intake out and give this a try. I already have everything i need sitting in my garage.
Anyone compare the two on the high end? I'm sure the GAB is great on the low end because it is getting nice cool air, while a frankencar gets warm air from the engine bay. I just don't think a GAB would be able to flow the same amount at 100+ as a frankencar, due to the stock airbox and midpipe thing.
Also, has anyone thought of using a ram cold air duct like the GAB to bring cold air into the bay, but using a frankencar intake? Obviously, you wouldnt get the cold air right away from a stop, but it would bring in a whole lot more cold air to the intake area than the stock silencer when you are cruising. I posted a thread about this but got no response. I did this and thought i was just crazy or something for feeling better acceleration at low speeds and less lag after beating on the car for a while. But, today it was raining so i pluged the tube and my car seems to lag again from low-speed rolls. I want to put a thermometer by the intake to see if theres a difference but i dont have one yet. Any thoughts?
O well, Dave will be back sooner or latter. If he got 4hp more than a Frankencar i might pull my frankencar/stillen intake out and give this a try. I already have everything i need sitting in my garage.
Anyone compare the two on the high end? I'm sure the GAB is great on the low end because it is getting nice cool air, while a frankencar gets warm air from the engine bay. I just don't think a GAB would be able to flow the same amount at 100+ as a frankencar, due to the stock airbox and midpipe thing.
Also, has anyone thought of using a ram cold air duct like the GAB to bring cold air into the bay, but using a frankencar intake? Obviously, you wouldnt get the cold air right away from a stop, but it would bring in a whole lot more cold air to the intake area than the stock silencer when you are cruising. I posted a thread about this but got no response. I did this and thought i was just crazy or something for feeling better acceleration at low speeds and less lag after beating on the car for a while. But, today it was raining so i pluged the tube and my car seems to lag again from low-speed rolls. I want to put a thermometer by the intake to see if theres a difference but i dont have one yet. Any thoughts?
04-22-2003, 05:29 PM
#75
Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
I picked up 4hp OVER the Franken car I was running, and it is a hell of alot quieter. I no longer have the dyno plots on my hard drive, but the guys that know me, know I don't B.S. people. And the guy that traps 102.xx is my buddy, Dave, he has run 14.29@102.5 with the GAB, and a Cattman catback. Everything else is STOCK on his car.
I picked up 4hp OVER the Franken car I was running, and it is a hell of alot quieter. I no longer have the dyno plots on my hard drive, but the guys that know me, know I don't B.S. people. And the guy that traps 102.xx is my buddy, Dave, he has run 14.29@102.5 with the GAB, and a Cattman catback. Everything else is STOCK on his car.
GAB ownz all.
04-22-2003, 05:41 PM
#76
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Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
I picked up 4hp OVER the Franken car I was running, and it is a hell of alot quieter. I no longer have the dyno plots on my hard drive, but the guys that know me, know I don't B.S. people. And the guy that traps 102.xx is my buddy, Dave, he has run 14.29@102.5 with the GAB, and a Cattman catback. Everything else is STOCK on his car.
I picked up 4hp OVER the Franken car I was running, and it is a hell of alot quieter. I no longer have the dyno plots on my hard drive, but the guys that know me, know I don't B.S. people. And the guy that traps 102.xx is my buddy, Dave, he has run 14.29@102.5 with the GAB, and a Cattman catback. Everything else is STOCK on his car.
04-22-2003, 05:46 PM
#77
Originally posted by 2kGLE
Thanks for the info. How do they compare off the track. Which is better at 100+? I dont not quarter mile my car so im wondering which is best for freeway driving. I'm down to try it but i have serious doubts that the stock air box can flow as much as the stillen/frankencar at high speeds.
Thanks for the info. How do they compare off the track. Which is better at 100+? I dont not quarter mile my car so im wondering which is best for freeway driving. I'm down to try it but i have serious doubts that the stock air box can flow as much as the stillen/frankencar at high speeds.
04-22-2003, 06:28 PM
#78
For all you 2K2/3 owners
I just tried this: Because there is no 'elbow' on our intake, I just removed the 'scoop' part. It's only 2 screws just in front of the radiator. This left a rectangular opening into the airbox, just in front of the filter.
I didn't want to cut my filter holder just yet either, so I took the holder out, put my K&N filter back in and held it in place with 2 short lengths of coat hanger wire wedged between the filter frame and the front wall of the airbox.
Sorry I don't have pics.....anyway, it sounds pretty good. Not sure what gains there are, though. Prolly leave it this way for a week or so and see if I like it.
Still trying to figure out how to get outside air into that rectangular opening....any ideas?
I didn't want to cut my filter holder just yet either, so I took the holder out, put my K&N filter back in and held it in place with 2 short lengths of coat hanger wire wedged between the filter frame and the front wall of the airbox.
Sorry I don't have pics.....anyway, it sounds pretty good. Not sure what gains there are, though. Prolly leave it this way for a week or so and see if I like it.
Still trying to figure out how to get outside air into that rectangular opening....any ideas?
04-22-2003, 07:42 PM
#79
Re: For all you 2K2/3 owners
Originally posted by Bluesbrekr
I just tried this: Because there is no 'elbow' on our intake, I just removed the 'scoop' part. It's only 2 screws just in front of the radiator. This left a rectangular opening into the airbox, just in front of the filter.
I didn't want to cut my filter holder just yet either, so I took the holder out, put my K&N filter back in and held it in place with 2 short lengths of coat hanger wire wedged between the filter frame and the front wall of the airbox.
Sorry I don't have pics.....anyway, it sounds pretty good. Not sure what gains there are, though. Prolly leave it this way for a week or so and see if I like it.
Still trying to figure out how to get outside air into that rectangular opening....any ideas?
I just tried this: Because there is no 'elbow' on our intake, I just removed the 'scoop' part. It's only 2 screws just in front of the radiator. This left a rectangular opening into the airbox, just in front of the filter.
I didn't want to cut my filter holder just yet either, so I took the holder out, put my K&N filter back in and held it in place with 2 short lengths of coat hanger wire wedged between the filter frame and the front wall of the airbox.
Sorry I don't have pics.....anyway, it sounds pretty good. Not sure what gains there are, though. Prolly leave it this way for a week or so and see if I like it.
Still trying to figure out how to get outside air into that rectangular opening....any ideas?
04-22-2003, 09:28 PM
#80
Re: Re: For all you 2K2/3 owners
Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
I wouldve left the stock scoop on. That brings outside air in and not air that was in your engine. The circle part that is probably closed on your intake can be cut off and then you can route a tube from that to the bottom of your bumper to have another cold air feed.
I wouldve left the stock scoop on. That brings outside air in and not air that was in your engine. The circle part that is probably closed on your intake can be cut off and then you can route a tube from that to the bottom of your bumper to have another cold air feed.