ran a 6 speed cl-s at the track

[quansung 2]

i barely beat him in the 1/8 ,we had nearly the same crummy me 60' 2.525 him 2.555 i ran a 9.771 and he ran a 9.772 trap speed was nearly same too him 76.54 mph me 76.94 mph, found out later on their forum he had headers and cai and the best he ran that day was 9.7.i did manage a better 60'(2.388) for a 9.5 in the 1/8 down from 2.409 when i ran the 14.664.there was a real fast 6 speed cl-s running 9 flat in the 1/8 with headers intake and drag radials. check out what their saying http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=86845

[Dave B]

Originally posted by quansung 2
i barely beat him in the 1/8 ,we had nearly the same crummy me 60' 2.525 him 2.555 i ran a 9.771 and he ran a 9.772 trap speed was nearly same too him 76.54 mph me 76.94 mph, found out later on their forum he had headers and cai and the best he ran that day was 9.7.i did manage a better 60'(2.388) for a 9.5 in the 1/8 down from 2.409 when i ran the 14.664.there was a real fast 6 speed cl-s running 9 flat in the 1/8 with headers intake and drag radials. check out what their saying

A 9-flat is possibly high 13s. That's pretty impressive for the heavyweight coupe.


Dave

Originally posted by quansung 2
i barely beat him in the 1/8 ,we had nearly the same crummy me 60' 2.525 him 2.555 i ran a 9.771 and he ran a 9.772 trap speed was nearly same too him 76.54 mph me 76.94 mph, found out later on their forum he had headers and cai and the best he ran that day was 9.7.i did manage a better 60'(2.388) for a 9.5 in the 1/8 down from 2.409 when i ran the 14.664.there was a real fast 6 speed cl-s running 9 flat in the 1/8 with headers intake and drag radials. check out what their saying http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=86845

Autos were hitting low 9s.

[quansung 2]

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Autos were hitting low 9s.

correction 1 cl-s with at least headers was the fastest automatic, his best run was a 9.318 with a 60'of 2.299.per acura-cl.com
" Most of the CL's did higher 9's around the 9.6 level. The RSX's on average were 9.8-10.5 and the TL's were around 10 sec..."

[irvine78]

Originally posted by Dave B


A 9-flat is possibly high 13s. That's pretty impressive for the heavyweight coupe.


Dave

with $1200 headers, it better do 13s.

[MichaelAE]

I'll bet my used Pacesetter STS that this thread either ends up locked or grows to 10+ pages in the next two days.

Originally posted by irvine78


with $1200 headers, it better do 13s.

Damn! $1200 for headers!

[irvine78]

Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE


Damn! $1200 for headers!

$600 each. you need 2. if you're short, you buy one header and get another one later.

[Padsy]

Originally posted by MichaelAE
I'll bet my used Pacesetter STS that this thread either ends up locked or grows to 10+ pages in the next two days.

I'll take that bet...








No I wont....
IBTL

[Acura2001CL-S]

Originally posted by irvine78


with $1200 headers, it better do 13s.

Correction the auto CL-S had OBX headers and they cost $340. Comptechs cost $1000. Most people now are buying OBX because of the price.

[Sprint]

when you going to let me run your car at the track?

[Dave B]

Originally posted by irvine78


with $1200 headers, it better do 13s.

Ethan spent a lot more than $1200 in mods for his 2k2 to run 13s He's got y-pipe, 2k1 exhaust manifold, RT cat, intake, catback, and UDP.

Dave

[Padsy]

Originally posted by Dave B


Ethan spent a lot more than $1200 in mods for his 2k2 to run 13s He's got y-pipe, 2k1 exhaust manifold, RT cat, intake, catback, and UDP.

Dave

Yeah, and only 8 fingers left

[Blu]

Originally posted by Dave B


Ethan spent a lot more than $1200 in mods for his 2k2 to run 13s He's got y-pipe, 2k1 exhaust manifold, RT cat, intake, catback, and UDP.

Dave

[Padsy]

Originally posted by blubyu2k2

[Blu]

Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp

:attention

[Padsy]

Originally posted by blubyu2k2


:attention

[MichaelAE]

Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp

[2k2-blk-6spd]

[EF-9]

auto CL-S with OBX header,and short ram intake run 9.3 1/8 mile that's pretty quick!!! That's translate to low 14's!

[Dave B]

Originally posted by EF-9
auto CL-S with OBX header,and short ram intake run 9.3 1/8 mile that's pretty quick!!! That's translate to low 14's!

9.3s is more like 14.4-14.5. Still very impressive.


Blubyu2k2-

Sorry, I forgot to mention your "on a budget" 13-second run


Dave

Originally posted by irvine78


with $1200 headers, it better do 13s.

Actually 1000 for comptechs, but now we have OBX, $350

[PlanoSER]

I just read this post and the post on acura-cl.com and i must say.. everybody put up some pretty bad times. I turn 9.6Xs-9.7Xs in the SpecV all the time, and it's stock.

Reading that post made me want to take my folks TL-S to the track and see what it can do. And where do you get those OBX headers theyre talkin about for 350 bux??! that sounds too cheap. For that price, i could convince pops to put a set on the car for sure

oh yeah to keep this relatively related: pulled 9.1X's in my bro's 2k2 6spd with injen cai

Originally posted by PlanoSER
I just read this post and the post on acura-cl.com and i must say.. everybody put up some pretty bad times. I turn 9.6Xs-9.7Xs in the SpecV all the time, and it's stock.

Reading that post made me want to take my folks TL-S to the track and see what it can do. And where do you get those OBX headers theyre talkin about for 350 bux??! that sounds too cheap. For that price, i could convince pops to put a set on the car for sure

oh yeah to keep this relatively related: pulled 9.1X's in my bro's 2k2 6spd with injen cai

www.ssautochrome.com is where we get the headers.

[Nealoc187]

Originally posted by PlanoSER
I just read this post and the post on acura-cl.com and i must say.. everybody put up some pretty bad times.

Did you see their 60' times? 2.5+

[Blu]

Originally posted by Nealoc187


Did you see their 60' times? 2.5+

Originally posted by Nealoc187


Did you see their 60' times? 2.5+

And people wonder why I did so bad....
'

These tires that come on our car were rated the worst tire from Tirerack. It's pretty sad.

[Dany]

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


And people wonder why I did so bad....
'

These tires that come on our car were rated the worst tire from Tirerack. It's pretty sad.

Are they even worse than Potenzas that come on Max. I thought CL/TL Type-S came with some Michelines?

[Dave B]

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


And people wonder why I did so bad....
'

These tires that come on our car were rated the worst tire from Tirerack. It's pretty sad.

Super high performance don't do jack for straight line acceleration. This is one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to drag racing. I ran on my bald 7-year old stock H-rated Goodyear RSAs and could pull 2.2X 60 foots. If I launched too hard or launched to soft, the tires would go up in smoke thru 1st. If I feathered it off the line and didn't get too greedy with the gas, my launches were pretty decent (2.2X range). I pulled four 2.2X 60 foots a couple weekends ago on my 215/60R15 Sumitomo HTR (H-rated). And NO, my track isn't sticky because most import guys consistently got 2.5 60 foots. They think 2.3s are really good We had a friend show up with a late model GSR, cam gears, header, intake, UDP, stock 15" rims. The guy swore he needed to launch at 5000-6000rpms to get a good run. He ended up getting 2.5-2.6 60' foots and low 16s because of wheelspin. We kept telling him to lower his launch rpm. After 3 trys and three 16-second slips, he launched at 3500rpms and feathered the clutch. In return he got a 2.3 60 foot, no bog into 2nd, and a 15.3@92mph.

I'm sorry, but a 2.5 60 foot is flat out horrible. Obvisously these Acura guys either suck at driving and/or they are way to aggressive on their launches. Too many guys assume you're suppose to go "balls out off the line". This is true if you have a 68 Camaro packing a Rat motor with 28" slicks. With FWD and street tires, you've got to baby it off the line (ie tip into the throttle). Most import guys at the track rev high and launch hard. What do they get in return? A peg-leg launch, dramatic spin thru 1st, a forced early up shift into 2nd, followed by a nasty bog. I watched every TL/S-CL/S do this at my track. The only guy that got decent ETs literally crawled off the line and then mashed the gas. He got 2.3s 60 foots and lower 15s. The other guys got 2.5-2.6 60 foots and high 15s. Their excuse......."too much torque in a FWD car". Please.


Dave

[Blu]

Originally posted by Dave B


Super high performance don't do jack for straight line acceleration. This is one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to drag racing. I ran on my bald 7-year old stock H-rated Goodyear RSAs and could pull 2.2X 60 foots. If I launched too hard or launched to soft, the tires would go up in smoke thru 1st. If I feathered it off the line and didn't get too greedy with the gas, my launches were pretty decent (2.2X range). I pulled four 2.2X 60 foots a couple weekends ago on my 215/60R15 Sumitomo HTR (H-rated). And NO, my track isn't sticky because most import guys consistently got 2.5 60 foots. They think 2.3s are really good We had a friend show up with a late model GSR, cam gears, header, intake, UDP, stock 15" rims. The guy swore he needed to launch at 5000-6000rpms to get a good run. He ended up getting 2.5-2.6 60' foots and low 16s because of wheelspin. We kept telling him to lower his launch rpm. After 3 trys and three 16-second slips, he launched at 3500rpms and feathered the clutch. In return he got a 2.3 60 foot, no bog into 2nd, and a 15.3@92mph.

I'm sorry, but a 2.5 60 foot is flat out horrible. Obvisously these Acura guys either suck at driving and/or they are way to aggressive on their launches. Too many guys assume you're suppose to go "balls out off the line". This is true if you have a 68 Camaro packing a Rat motor with 28" slicks. With FWD and street tires, you've got to baby it off the line (ie tip into the throttle). Most import guys at the track rev high and launch hard. What do they get in return? A peg-leg launch, dramatic spin thru 1st, a forced early up shift into 2nd, followed by a nasty bog. I watched every TL/S-CL/S do this at my track. The only guy that got decent ETs literally crawled off the line and then mashed the gas. He got 2.3s 60 foots and lower 15s. The other guys got 2.5-2.6 60 foots and high 15s. Their excuse......."too much torque in a FWD car". Please.


Dave

Wow I actually agree

Originally posted by Dany


Are they even worse than Potenzas that come on Max. I thought CL/TL Type-S came with some Michelines?

They are much worse in the dry. In the wet they are a bit better than the Potenzas. When I had the rental, I could take turns much quicker without the tires giving out, but of course more body roll. That model michelin just sucks period.

Dave you have no CLUE how bad our tires are. Yes Goodyear RSAs even bald are much better than ours. I couldn't tell you why, but others have tried those to dunlosp to whatever and got much better traction. All I have to do is at 5mph roll slam the gas, and my tires break loose and start spinning. Let me remind you I know how to drive a fwd car at the track. I got 14.83 at 94.6 mph out of my Maxima with stock tires. IT had much better tires.

When I got the 15.3 with 2.4-2.5 60s I had to baby the CL-S out of the hole because if I floored it, I would just spin. Now its even worse with the headers. I can't even give it more than half throttle and I start spinning. If you notice most of the guys get lower times have better tires.

Originally posted by Dave B


Super high performance don't do jack for straight line acceleration. This is one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to drag racing. I ran on my bald 7-year old stock H-rated Goodyear RSAs and could pull 2.2X 60 foots. If I launched too hard or launched to soft, the tires would go up in smoke thru 1st. If I feathered it off the line and didn't get too greedy with the gas, my launches were pretty decent (2.2X range). I pulled four 2.2X 60 foots a couple weekends ago on my 215/60R15 Sumitomo HTR (H-rated). And NO, my track isn't sticky because most import guys consistently got 2.5 60 foots. They think 2.3s are really good We had a friend show up with a late model GSR, cam gears, header, intake, UDP, stock 15" rims. The guy swore he needed to launch at 5000-6000rpms to get a good run. He ended up getting 2.5-2.6 60' foots and low 16s because of wheelspin. We kept telling him to lower his launch rpm. After 3 trys and three 16-second slips, he launched at 3500rpms and feathered the clutch. In return he got a 2.3 60 foot, no bog into 2nd, and a 15.3@92mph.

I'm sorry, but a 2.5 60 foot is flat out horrible. Obvisously these Acura guys either suck at driving and/or they are way to aggressive on their launches. Too many guys assume you're suppose to go "balls out off the line". This is true if you have a 68 Camaro packing a Rat motor with 28" slicks. With FWD and street tires, you've got to baby it off the line (ie tip into the throttle). Most import guys at the track rev high and launch hard. What do they get in return? A peg-leg launch, dramatic spin thru 1st, a forced early up shift into 2nd, followed by a nasty bog. I watched every TL/S-CL/S do this at my track. The only guy that got decent ETs literally crawled off the line and then mashed the gas. He got 2.3s 60 foots and lower 15s. The other guys got 2.5-2.6 60 foots and high 15s. Their excuse......."too much torque in a FWD car". Please.


Dave

[Padsy]

They do come with Michelins.

[2000 SE]

When I got the 15.3 with 2.4-2.5 60s I had to baby the CL-S out of the hole because if I floored it, I would just spin. Now its even worse with the headers. I can't even give it more than half throttle and I start spinning. If you notice most of the guys get lower times have better tires.

Actually its probably your "v-tech kicking in"! So you ran your rocket ship cl-s and got a 15.3? What was your mph?

BTW, if you lower you tire pressure at the track, it will help your spinning problem. Oh yeah, stay out of the water box too. "With a good driver" your 260hp 5A.... might be able to clip the 14's.

Originally posted by 2000 SE


Actually its probably your "v-tech kicking in"! So you ran your rocket ship cl-s and got a 15.3? What was your mph?

BTW, if you lower you tire pressure at the track, it will help your spinning problem. Oh yeah, stay out of the water box too. "With a good driver" your 260hp 5A.... might be able to clip the 14's.

I didn't prep the car at all when I ran the last time. I plan to this time.

I always go around the water box and only spin the tires a second to get the rocks, etc out of them. MPH was 92, wasn't so hot for a stock one but I wasn't pushing it hard off the line at the time.

With my mods, I should be mid to low 14s at 97-99 traps. That is what others run with the same mods I have.

[emax02]

Originally posted by Dave B


Ethan spent a lot more than $1200 in mods for his 2k2 to run 13s He's got y-pipe, 2k1 exhaust manifold, RT cat, intake, catback, and UDP.

Dave

Correction , I have a 95 exhaust manifold. Intake, Y-pipe, UDP, RT and greddy exhaust. Total spent was $1,235. Not exactly a "lot" more then $1200, nice intelligent comment as usual though..

[Nismo87SE]

Hey just call it "poorman's headers" upgrade. Although a cutout after the cat might help alittle.

Originally posted by emax95


Correction , I have a 95 exhaust manifold. Intake, Y-pipe, UDP, RT and greddy exhaust. Total spent was $1,235. Not exactly a "lot" more then $1200, nice intelligent comment as usual though..

[Dave B]

Originally posted by emax95


Correction , I have a 95 exhaust manifold. Intake, Y-pipe, UDP, RT and greddy exhaust. Total spent was $1,235. Not exactly a "lot" more then $1200, nice intelligent comment as usual though..

Well, sorry. I guess it depends on how you "price" the mods and when you spent the money. I'm assuming you reused some parts from your old Maxima/I30. For anyone else, your setup would cost ~$1500 not including the lighter rims.

95 manifold and gasket ~$100-120?
intake ~$180-200
y-pipe ~$280-350
UDP, belts, seal ~$220
RT cat ~$200
Greddy exhaust ~$500

Total: $1480-1590

My point to all this was not to knock you or your car, it was to show that the CL-S with less money in mods is just as quick as a modded 6 speed Maxima. If you insist on keeping a chip on your shoulder, so be it.


Dave

[Dave B]

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Dave you have no CLUE how bad our tires are. Yes Goodyear RSAs even bald are much better than ours. I couldn't tell you why, but others have tried those to dunlosp to whatever and got much better traction. All I have to do is at 5mph roll slam the gas, and my tires break loose and start spinning. Let me remind you I know how to drive a fwd car at the track. I got 14.83 at 94.6 mph out of my Maxima with stock tires. IT had much better tires.

When I got the 15.3 with 2.4-2.5 60s I had to baby the CL-S out of the hole because if I floored it, I would just spin. Now its even worse with the headers. I can't even give it more than half throttle and I start spinning. If you notice most of the guys get lower times have better tires.

Hmmmm...I have no problems lighting up my tires from any kind of a roll in 1st and I don't have problems getting decent traction on street tires. I could smoke my RSA, Yokohama Avids V4s, HTR 200s, HTRZIIs, HTRZs tires from a roll yet all these tires could pull similiar 60 foots. The higher performance tires were like glue in lateral acceleration, but they did little in the straight line.

When I first started racing my Maxima, I got consistent 2.4-2.5 60 foots regardless of the tires and rims I was running. I was stuck in the 15.3-15.5s@92mph with 2.4-2.5 60 foots for nearly 3 months. It didn't matter if I launched at 1500rpms or 4000rpms, my car would spin horribly thru 1st. Then I realized my problems were because I was way too aggressive on the launch. I would immediately floor it right off the line. This ended up shocking the tires which caused horrible wheelspin and a bog into 2nd. I learned that if I slipped the clutch at 3000rpms, got rolling for a split second, and then feed the car gas, I got consistent low 2.3s. I practiced more and got 2.2s. My ET/MPHs went from mid 15s@92mph to higher 14s@94mph.

As for launching an auto. Easy. Foot on the brake, 1st amber light stab the gas 1/3 the way, 2nd amber release the brake and feed it a little more gas, get rolling and then floor it.


Dave

[Blu]

Originally posted by Dave B

As for launching an auto. Easy. Foot on the brake, 1st amber light stab the gas 1/3 the way, 2nd amber release the brake and feed it a little more gas, get rolling and then floor it.


Dave

I thought everyone agreed you just floor and auto and go j/k