handsofstone

I was wondering? Which is really a better engine? they are
both 6 cylinders. but which is more potent? and which would you
prefer? I really want to improve the Maxima's performance, and
be a little different from everyone else. I've seen Ford Focus's
with Mustang motors.

SkylineGTR

If you're asking because you think you can just drop a RB26 motor into a Maxima, you really should try to research a bit more on both motors before asking these kinda questions. I'm not trying to be an a** or anything, but know what you are asking before asking.

BTW I believe most Focus' with Mustang motors are converted to RWD.

Maxima is FWD, with a transversly mounted V6 engine. VQ displaces either 3.0L or 3.5L depending on the year. The cast aluminum block makes it far lighter than a equivalent iron block motor. DOHC 4 valves per cylinder. 10.0:1 compression, with an open deck.

RB26 comes off the 4WD Skyline GTR, longitudinal mounted Inline 6, cast iron block, DOHC 4 valves per cylinder. displacing 2.6L. 8.5:1 compression with a closed deck.

If you want to use the RB26DETT in the Maxima, you have to use a transmission that bolts up to it, the only 2WD transmission that mounts to the RB26DETT is a RWD transmission.

Impossible? No
Ridiculously Expensive? Yes

Black VQ

That's if the RB isn't too long to even fit in the Max's engine bay. If you think for a second, it's roughly twice the length of the VQ. It's almost as if you were trying to put an NSX engine in a Civic. On second thought, it's probably worse.

Kojiro_FtT

Yeah, there's no way that inline 6 would fit transversely or longitudal in the Max. Find a different engine man.

SkylineGTR

Well 'Ridiculously Expensive' as in converting the rear suspension on the max to RWD, then custom mounting the RB and transmission .... looks like i shoulda used a more powerful word that 'ridiculously.' Help me out here guys, whats worse than ridiculously expensive?

jjs

insanely?

prohibitively?

psychotically?

handsofstone

yes i know that the focus was rear wheel drive. and yes i kow,
it will be expensive. i know that there is a guy in cali witha
4rd gen max that is rear wheel drive. just a little curious.
i guess my question was not specific enough. i was really thinking
of getting a skyline gts from motorex. well actually there is two for
sale here on island. i just wanted to know which engine has the most
potential? I LOVE INTERNET THUGS!

SkylineGTR

oh in that case. hands down RB wins. i think Nissan was testing the VQ30 for racing purposes and its definitely had potential, but the block fails once it reaches the 600hp envelope. I think the VQ blocks literally cracked at around 560 something HP. As for the RB26, the block itself is proven to withstand 1000+HP.

Black VQ

That's the advantage of iron block and closed deck vs. aluminum block and open deck. The VQ has an advantage over the RB in another area, though. The VQ is shorter and lighter. Even with the R34 GT-Rs being used in the JGTCC, Nissan was able to mount the VQ farther back in the engine bay to improve weight distribution. The layout was changed, almost to an 'FM' configuration, like the 350Z and G35. Turn-in, among other things improved, and the car was still lighter than before! If the next GT-R uses a smaller lighter engine, it will have a shorter front overhang and even less weight than the R34 did. With a VQ, the GT-R won't necessarily be the SuperGodzillaBigBadVoodooDaddyMack of the Japanese sports cars it used to be when tuned, but it will be a very well balanced car in stock condition, like the 350Z.

Kojiro_FtT

Isn't the GT-S running a RB25?

Anyways, how can you compare a Skyline GT-S to a Maxima? If you want performance, go for the GT-S. Is it a R33 or R34 you are looking at? Is it turbo? Not all GT-S are turbocharged. If you are looking at a R34 GT-S, then you are looking to spend a whole lot more money than a Maxima will ever cost you. So I assume you are looking at a R33.

So let's compare:
2k3 Maxima: $25-28 grand, V6, NA, 255 HP, FWD, brand new sub-luxury.
1995? R33 GT-S: $30K+, I-6, Single Turbo (or NA), 250 HP (or 180 NA), RWD, 8 year old sports car, no luxury.

Totally different cars man. You decide which you want.

theblue

why not do the VQ30DET swap? (or didn't they talk about that one in the fast and the furious)

Black VQ

That was the SR20 swap into the Civic. The sequel will have the 2JZGTE swap into a Sentra.

handsofstone

you guys are toooo funny. LOL. Thanks a lot. it's funny,
when i lived in japan all i cared about was the women. I
really didn't get into street racing until i moved to Hawaii.


but anyway, i was looking at the GT-s single turbo. But they want
way too much for it. something like33K. I love the max. even though
it feels like a whale to me. i think i will wait for a turbo
kit for it. My wife will not let me have a coupe right now.
something about kids.

Kojiro_FtT

That's not a bad price depending on mileage and condition. A lot more than you'd pay in Japan, but not bad for the US.

handsofstone

Now Motorex is advertising the gt-s for 18k. I guess i will just
try and improve the Max as best as i can. until i can convince my
wife to buy a gt-s or gt-r.

djPlayboy

if its a R32 or above it has the RB26
but someone correct me if im wrong.

nissanmaximas

Ludacris...?

97GLE

I was gonna say that!! I was thinking space *****

I'm not whoring, this whole thread is whoring!

deadrx7conv

My vote is for the VQ30DET, but wasn't it in a rear drive platform.
Can't wait until they release a super car with a VQ35DETT. Will be very interesting if it ever happens The VQ is the future.

Performance wise, the king is dead. Long live the king. The RB/SR/KA/VE/VG/VH are dead. Long live the VQ/QR/VK/QG.

Skyline

R32 GTS-T has RB20DET, R33/R34 GTS-T has RB25DET.

Only GT-R's (R32/33/34) have RB26DETT.

Kojiro_FtT

I thought so. Thanks for the clarification.

djPlayboy

I stand corrected, thanks bro