4th gen rocker panels?
#1
4th gen rocker panels?
My rocker panels are pretty rusted and I'd like to fix them.
I've searched various body parts online stores and none seem to sell rocker panel replacements for the 4th gen Max.
Does anyone know of a source?
If none exist my plan is to saw off sections of rocker panels from the junk yard and weld them all together. I don't actually know how to weld but I'm a sucker forpunishment a challenge so why not. I say sections because I've never seen a max in the junkyard around here that has more than 2 feet of un-rusted good rocker panel. As well I've been watching for Max's for sale for the past year and every one that comes up is twice as rusty as my car.
Alternately I could probably take a section that I've sawed off and have some metal fabricators make new rockers using that as a template but I'm assuming that is $$$
Thoughts?
I've searched various body parts online stores and none seem to sell rocker panel replacements for the 4th gen Max.
Does anyone know of a source?
If none exist my plan is to saw off sections of rocker panels from the junk yard and weld them all together. I don't actually know how to weld but I'm a sucker for
Alternately I could probably take a section that I've sawed off and have some metal fabricators make new rockers using that as a template but I'm assuming that is $$$
Thoughts?
#3
Buy a Mig welder and practice on your neighbor's cars at night when they're sleeping.
These will never be collectibles. So keep that thing on your pants. (Wallet that is!) LOL
I know..... I'm a perfectionist and you wouldn't believe the stupid thoughts that pop into my head.
It's a lot of work keeping the knee jerk reactions under check.
Good luck!
These will never be collectibles. So keep that thing on your pants. (Wallet that is!) LOL
I know..... I'm a perfectionist and you wouldn't believe the stupid thoughts that pop into my head.
It's a lot of work keeping the knee jerk reactions under check.
Good luck!
#4
with all the new tech that's out there you can probably get away with using panel bond to "glue" the new/used rocker to the car assuming it's prepped properly.
like others mentioned, it's not going to be a collector piece and you just want to fix up the rust. having fun drilling out like 100 spot welds.
like others mentioned, it's not going to be a collector piece and you just want to fix up the rust. having fun drilling out like 100 spot welds.
#5
with all the new tech that's out there you can probably get away with using panel bond to "glue" the new/used rocker to the car assuming it's prepped properly.
like others mentioned, it's not going to be a collector piece and you just want to fix up the rust. having fun drilling out like 100 spot welds.
like others mentioned, it's not going to be a collector piece and you just want to fix up the rust. having fun drilling out like 100 spot welds.
Interesting thought about the adhesive.
From my brief inspection it appears that other than 6-8 inches from my rear wheels, the damage to the rest of the rocker is salty water must have just settled at the bottom inside and eventually made it's way right through. so I may be able to just cut that out and weld or glue a strip across that gap.
Example, looking down the inside of the rocker, of how I think the damage is and how it could possibly be fixed
First order of business once the snow is gone in a few weeks is do a major rust grinding and see what good metal remains before I decide on a solution.
#6
Just to clarify, is it the building a rocker from multiple donor pieces that's an every day transplant or fabbing new metal from a chunk of rocker? or both?
Last edited by DizzyEdge; 03-08-2021 at 11:41 AM.
#7
Buy a Mig welder and practice on your neighbor's cars at night when they're sleeping.
These will never be collectibles. So keep that thing on your pants. (Wallet that is!) LOL
I know..... I'm a perfectionist and you wouldn't believe the stupid thoughts that pop into my head.
It's a lot of work keeping the knee jerk reactions under check.
Good luck!
These will never be collectibles. So keep that thing on your pants. (Wallet that is!) LOL
I know..... I'm a perfectionist and you wouldn't believe the stupid thoughts that pop into my head.
It's a lot of work keeping the knee jerk reactions under check.
Good luck!
I actually replaced my hood and a fender in the past few years and have kept the old ones around just for the potential welding practice material!
#9
#10
Interesting thought about the adhesive.
From my brief inspection it appears that other than 6-8 inches from my rear wheels, the damage to the rest of the rocker is salty water must have just settled at the bottom inside and eventually made it's way right through. so I may be able to just cut that out and weld or glue a strip across that gap.
Example, looking down the inside of the rocker, of how I think the damage is and how it could possibly be fixed
First order of business once the snow is gone in a few weeks is do a major rust grinding and see what good metal remains before I decide on a solution.
From my brief inspection it appears that other than 6-8 inches from my rear wheels, the damage to the rest of the rocker is salty water must have just settled at the bottom inside and eventually made it's way right through. so I may be able to just cut that out and weld or glue a strip across that gap.
Example, looking down the inside of the rocker, of how I think the damage is and how it could possibly be fixed
First order of business once the snow is gone in a few weeks is do a major rust grinding and see what good metal remains before I decide on a solution.
BTW nice drawing.
when you get a wire wheel on it and poke around with a screwdriver you'll see what's really rusted out.
if for some luck the rust is just that piece then yeah i don't see why you can't just cut out a piece a metal and bond that in there. ideally you want to cut a channel/slot/groove in the rusty metal and side the patch piece inside and then glue it down that way. make sure you have cavity wax and all the undercoating you can get your hands on and prep the area correctly.
#11
honestly it's never "just that part" when it comes to rust.
BTW nice drawing.
when you get a wire wheel on it and poke around with a screwdriver you'll see what's really rusted out.
if for some luck the rust is just that piece then yeah i don't see why you can't just cut out a piece a metal and bond that in there. ideally you want to cut a channel/slot/groove in the rusty metal and side the patch piece inside and then glue it down that way. make sure you have cavity wax and all the undercoating you can get your hands on and prep the area correctly.
BTW nice drawing.
when you get a wire wheel on it and poke around with a screwdriver you'll see what's really rusted out.
if for some luck the rust is just that piece then yeah i don't see why you can't just cut out a piece a metal and bond that in there. ideally you want to cut a channel/slot/groove in the rusty metal and side the patch piece inside and then glue it down that way. make sure you have cavity wax and all the undercoating you can get your hands on and prep the area correctly.
If I do repair it it will have so much sealing and cavity wax inside that the rockers will out live the rest of the car
#12
Yeah we'll see how optimistic my 'just that part' is, quite I'm sure! My goal for spring is to remove all of the rot and seal what's left, it will probably be ugly but its a black car so that stuff can hide in the shadows from quick glances. Then decide if I want to repair.
If I do repair it it will have so much sealing and cavity wax inside that the rockers will out live the rest of the car
If I do repair it it will have so much sealing and cavity wax inside that the rockers will out live the rest of the car
#13
#15
I'm in the same boat as you my rockers are rusting out. Especially on the passenger side under the rear door. The frame rail rusting too inside the rocker. My driver side rear is starting to show through but hasnt fully fell out. I happened to take out the rear seat last night and found the rear inner fenders were rusted through up under the seats. Cant really see it from outside of car. Also got small holes in floor pan behind the front wheels.
#17
My rockers are looking pretty good from the outside, which is surprising. (Full disclosure: I didn't know what a rocker panel was until this thread ). I plan on doing an inspection next time I get her up on ramps. Should I hose off the caked on dirt or just try to get it off dry with gloves, brushes, cloths and a respirator? Fluid Film will be applied from a can.
Last edited by 90sWheels; 03-13-2021 at 07:53 PM.
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