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Old 01-18-2015, 05:31 PM
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traction sux on my non-lsd 95 max....

so, out cruisin tonight running errands and the roads had some slick spots that were def an eye opener. slid through 2 stop signs and almost lost it on a back road tires are good, it was border-line freezing i noticed the roads were turning icy. any way to get better traction?? trunks loaded, but it's front wheel so. pretty good traction most days, i just hate not having both wheels spinning.
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Blizzzzzacks for winter tires..
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Besides really good winter tires, the number one thing that will save your *** is changing your driving habits when snow and/or ice are present. Take it real easy and only go out if you have to.
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Avoid slamming the brakes at all costs, brake very early and if your slipping try to make sure you aren't going to hit anything or if it comes to it; try to find a safe "crash sport" (curb?)
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I avoid going driving if its a day where accidents can increase due to weather. like wizard said, just gotta be careful if u have to go out on those days.

but in TX, this never happens really.. maybe only horrible raining days and foggy days.
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I had the same problem before I got my tires siped, huge differance, 12 bucks a tire
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:25 PM
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hate to say it, but consumer reports says it's not worth it. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...ires/index.htm for those who buy new, ( i don't) it voids the warranty as well.
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whats not worth it?
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:11 PM
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Consumer reports? I have experience with this, I just got the 50 dollar tires from Walmart 185 65 15s siped them put them on the front, got toyo gsi 5 snow tires on back 195 65 15s it worked for me, way better imo, do you belive all the consumer reports you read? LoL
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Originally Posted by a32skyl1ne
Consumer reports? I have experience with this, I just got the 50 dollar tires from Walmart 185 65 15s siped them put them on the front, got toyo gsi 5 snow tires on back 195 65 15s it worked for me, way better imo, do you belive all the consumer reports you read? LoL
no, but if you read they said it's not worth voiding the warranty for the modest gains. plus, 60 bux and tax, i have better things to spend my money on right now. and, no matter how good your tires are, the roads were super icy and caused multiple accidents and a few deaths. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/...idents-n288541 thank god i pay attention to how my car reacts to the road conditions, i did slow down as soon as i felt the car slip the second time. as slow as i was going, the car still slid several feet past my stoppng point. i was def going a bit tuu fast for the road condition. been driving 30 years, and i learned from mistakes of my younger days.

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Traction really wont do anything when it comes to stopping if its icy.

That's why i think it's stupid when all these 4wd and awd vehicles go way too fast in winter because they don't have troubles getting moving until they have to slow down. I had a 2wd ranger i just traded for the max and i loved driving past all the 4wd trucks in the ditch
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I've worked for the PNWs largest tire dealer Les Schwab, and having the tires siped by the installer/dealer does not void any warranty, and it definitely works. Take everything from CR with a shaker of salt.

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Originally Posted by CS_AR
Blizzzzzacks for winter tires..
Originally Posted by The Wizard
Besides really good winter tires, the number one thing that will save your *** is changing your driving habits when snow and/or ice are present. Take it real easy and only go out if you have to.

Excellent advise!

FWIW:
My 6,000 lb Toyota 4 Runner in 4wd with excellent all season tires also slides easily on frozen roads. Ice is very slippery, I'm sure you learned that in science class...
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd

Excellent advise!

FWIW:
My 6,000 lb Toyota 4 Runner in 4wd with excellent all season tires also slides easily on frozen roads. Ice is very slippery, I'm sure you learned that in science class...
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Changing your driving habits respect to weather is a +1 no matter how many years you've been driving.

Also having the correct tires for the weather is another +1.

Several years back I had all season tires and then couple of years back I got some winter tires on the car and it made a big difference in traction. Plus my driving habits changed since then too. Less speeding and more cautious.
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:52 PM
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I had a used 88 Maxima until I bought my 99 new. The 88 had LSD. The 99 was a HUGE disappointment when Winter came. The 88 was like AWD, it climbed through everything with just all season radials.

The 99 w/o LSD and a bigger wheelbase was drastically different in all the wrong ways.

However, the 99 was more refined the rest of the time.

With that said, I don't care what tire companies say, to me, in icy conditions, studded tires are the only thing that adds more panic situation traction. I don't buy that newer compound stuff. But then you have to deal with the laws, season limitations and NOISE! Top snow tires are better than mostly everything else except when on slightly wet black ice and the only thing that will dig in enough is CLAWS! (studs)

Over the past month or so, the amount of pileups on Interstates shows that maybe studded tires might be worth the noise.

Just my experienced opinion!

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You upgraded your rims with fatter tires, right? That's the problem. The 4th gen is a very light car. A rim upgrade with fatter tires only helps dry weather handling. In the wet, or other slippery conditions, you need weight, or thinner tires.

If you still have your oem 15 rims, slap some winter tread on those like the blizzard mentioned. You will feel like superman with that setup in the winter. The car won't look as good, but hey
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it'll be faster too
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:17 AM
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LSD in ice is bad joojoo. With open diff one tire will maintain side to side traction.
With LSD you will drift sideways off the road trying to claw your way down the road.

Adjust your driving habits to the conditions.

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My only experience with LSD is on rear-wheel drive cars with sizable V8 engines.
A 1969 442 Olds many years ago and the Q45 for current. Because the rear end tries to walk around to the front of the car on take off, both are holy terror to drive on ice.
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Originally Posted by CS_AR
My only experience with LSD is on rear-wheel drive cars with sizable V8 engines.
A 1969 442 Olds many years ago and the Q45 for current. Because the rear end tries to walk around to the front of the car on take off, both are holy terror to drive on ice.
hence the reason i passed up on a g35 a few years back, it wasn't an "x" so i knew it would suck in the snow and ice. also considered a dodge charger but knew with it's size and weight it would be a holy terror in $hitty weather.
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With the engine and transmission right over the front wheels, LSD is definitely an advantage in Winter driving. Standard on Canadian Maximas. And not an option on American.

Ice is a different animal. When it comes to panic stopping, you're screwed with or without LSD unless you have studded tires. And they only help.

Sad part is you can have LSD and aggressively studded tires and still have everyone else pile up on you.

Find a nice, beautiful, warm woman to snuggle up with instead. Driving conditions will improve way faster than you want. It always happens that way. DAMN!

Stay safe and warm fellas!
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Im waiting for an enterprising canadian to start parting out rusty maximas and importing LSD 5 speeds to USA.
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Originally Posted by KP11520
With the engine and transmission right over the front wheels, LSD is definitely an advantage in Winter driving. Standard on Canadian Maximas. And not an option on American.

Ice is a different animal. When it comes to panic stopping, you're screwed with or without LSD unless you have studded tires. And they only help.

Sad part is you can have LSD and aggressively studded tires and still have everyone else pile up on you.

Find a nice, beautiful, warm woman to snuggle up with instead. Driving conditions will improve way faster than you want. It always happens that way. DAMN!

Stay safe and warm fellas!
million. And climate change is wreaking havoc on winter everywhere.

All differentials, lsd, awd, even open diff, assume somewhat good tires for the conditions.
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Originally Posted by asand1
Im waiting for an enterprising canadian to start parting out rusty maximas and importing LSD 5 speeds to USA.

I got my trans built from Man tran here in Tallahassee, cost me 1400 but it's LSD and built from the ground up...great transmission.


I still break traction at the end of first and the end of second...but I think that's my tires plus she revs faster due to the flywheel.
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