TravisCadello

well im automatic and just tore up my 4th Automatic and im Sick and tired of going thru these transmissions left and right their weak and their junk in the 4th gens this one had 80k miles on it and now 95k and already SCREWED slipping,cracked houseing,wont leave 2nd gear no matter what.


So im Deffently going 5 speed swap before this year is over either that or Grabbing this Auto tranny out a 03 maxima 3.5 if you guys say its built any stronger?


if their basicly same i just wanna grab a 5 speed but i did a lot of research and i just wanted to get some facts before i hit junkyard..


So which has the LSD 5speed? 03 I30 Canadian version and what else?

whiteSE

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all i30's have lsd. all canada maximas have lsd. 95-96 have weaker diffs. best year seems to be 98-99.

vqmaxman

The honest truth is the auto trannies are better and stronger than the manuals the scyronos and the gears shread easier in the manual than the auto. The manual trannies are glass jaws it's been stated in other threads here.

I would never get the trannies from the junkyard unless the car has low miles and the tranny case has been in good condition.

schmellyfart

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No!

Only the i30t has vlsd. And its only the Canadian SE and ES trims that have vlsd.

njmaxseltd

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PISSST Here's a hint - Start looking at the driver and application before placing blame on a device that usually provides upwards of 300,000 worry free miles to most of it's owners.

kasso28

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I'm pretty sure he's not driving like a grandma and its no secret that these tranny's are horrible, so that comment is irrelevant.

To the OP, I'm in a similar situation. I'm in to learn more about if these transmissions have a saving grace before I start contemplating a 6spd HLSD swap.

Crusher103

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all transmissions for maximas are teh fail.

njmaxseltd

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I see you missed the word "application".

dwapenyi

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dwapenyi

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I don't know.....but I think that manual trannies suffer alot because the previous owner didnt take care to make sure to put GL4 fluid in there. GL4-5-6 combo fluid is unacceptable. GL4 only.

Shift_A32B

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I blame the driver
I never got through one AT

[s3]

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Shift your auto like a manual?

What are you doing to your transmission that your blowing them up left and right? Are you pushing 400HP thru it with a turbo/sc?

TravisCadello

This previous transmission was pulled from a 95 and has like 80k miles on it but it shifted weak from the getgo had a feeling it wouldn't last long my previous trannys were driven thru gears not this one,this one Ran dry and i had no clue cause damn tow truck smashed pan and by time i checked fluid it was too late,i filled it back and everything was fine and now the caseing is cracked and leaking just like the last 3 and its slipping bad.




And how are the 5spds weaker then a auto? i think if i had a 5spd from beginning of time id still be running exact same tranny no problems as long as i ran proper fluid,i may be going through clutchs but not trannys.


i thought about the 6speed swap but theirs just too much work involved and not much more of a benefit running a 6 rather then a 5 speed.

TravisCadello

how do i know if the I30 is a Canadian version?

Amerikaner83

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Vin

TravisCadello

Little more Detail please?

Amerikaner83

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ok, how about "look at the VIN".

Better?

TravisCadello

Ok,SmartAzz.......

[s3]

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The people chewing thru gearboxes as in shredding their gears are probably laying down some 400 to 500hp on them.

A max with full mods and stage 3 clutch, the likelihood of blowing up the gearbox is pretty slim unless it's abused.

TravisCadello

Thats what i was thinking. it seems like they'd be buletproff with a full bolt on 3.0 and thats what i want!

Crusher103

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no the autos are stronger than the 5spds. 5spd has about a 350wtq limit after that you are praying to the force(although a couple of NA 3.5s have blown them). Autos on the other hand with small mods have been taking big power for with out issue. Infact the fast maxima period has a lightly modded 4spd auto.

now the 6spd is suppose to be the strongest but an NA 3.0 has blown a 6spd up. But apparently they can take 400wtq before they get a little effy.

[s3]

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That's what my 5spd build will be, it's my daily driver so I don't need 500hp on it. I'd be happy with a 180 to 190hp dyno run.

asand1

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Any transmission will break under severe abuse and neglect.

TravisCadello

I know i seen a 3rd gen on youtube running a vq35 Motor And The original 3rd gen auto with valvebody upgrade and he was dawging hell out of it chirpin 2nd gear and he said transmission has held up for thousands of miles now.



thats crazy cause i figured the 5speed would hold up to just about any power the VQ could throw at it.

ABIGBRAIN

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This is NOT true.

Crusher103

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Soo aakshun must have azz raped that 6spd of his.....

TravisCadello

So if the 5 speeds are that weak then more then likely any tranny i grab out junkyard will probably grind when goin into gears??? I thought they had some STOUT trannys cause ive only seen three 4th gens manual and they shifted like butter all of them.

[s3]

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They're not weak as people would put it, it's only up to whoever had them last and picking up a tranny n the junkyards is like putting quarters into a slot machine.

Can you run a tranny w/o gear oil? Sure you can.

Can you shift from 4th to 2nd at 100mph? Sure you can

The question is, why would you?

grey99max

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Something to think about ... I've gone through several VLSD automatic transmissions and got tired of it, so I bit the bullet and got IPT (Import Performance Transmissions) in New Jersey to do a complete high performance build on my '01 RE4F04W ( or RE4F04V for the 95-99 Max/Inf years - that's on the tag under the hood on the firewall - the last letter is the one that matters) ) VLSD automatic, and this is the only way to go. I've been beating up on it all year and it still bangs through the gears while spraying a 150-shot. It uses the stock wiring to control it, and I also have a custom transmission shifter that I use at the track which has programmable shifts.

http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ion-151-1.html

Crusher103

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To be honest just a 5spd VLSD will hold up to about anything a 3.0 can throw at it, just keep up with the fluid changes and you will be fine. A SpecVs 6spd will match the 3.0 best but those get labor intensive to swap.

I had a 5spd that held 340wtq, and im going to run my 5spd on my turbo car now which is just a I30T VLSD, has like 240k miles on it shifts smooth and doesnt give me problems but i dont abuse the trans.

[s3]

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^ What he said

TravisCadello

Nuff Said Im Going 5 Speed I also Read in other Threads the 5 speeds are GREAT and strong and smooth even at 265k miles idk why people are saying their weak. probably weak if ur slamming gear in place and burning up the syncros.


Those are a Pretty penny! And Thanks Everyone for input!!ill try and find me a Canadian version i30 5 speed.

Crusher103

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The 5spd is a weak trans it really doesnt hold power well, but unless we are talking about a boosted or a car that's tracked A LOT. You will not have much trouble with the transmission blowing.

grey99max

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Maybe so - but you'll only buy one.

The 'murican Infinity I30t almost always comes with VLSD - same with the 2001 AE Maxima manual and automatic. You'll need the driver's axle with any VLSD tranny. Viscious Limited Slip Differential transmissions are much more fun to drive.

Car-Part.com can be your friend.

max ride 41

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i put a used non-lsd tranny in my 95 4 years ago and no problems. its auto, and i know what to expect from it. i allready changed the fluid in it once, and probably will again. you cant beat the crap out of any trans and expect it to not fail at one point. you put too much heat and wear on the clutch plates and syncro's and the trans will start slipping every time. i've burned through a bunch of other trannies, i was younger and inexpierienced. you gotta baby these cars once they get higher mileage, period or your going to be replacing the trans alot.

Crusher103

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This.

TravisCadello

Ya I'd Defently love to get ahold to a LSD 5 speed.....This tranny im running now is a "Locking Diferencial" Does that mean its a LSD or wtf it mean? original tranny was non locking,next was locking,next was non locking and this one is locking and everytime i warranty my axels out at autoone saying i think i gave wrong info last time cause it kept poping out tranny and they change it for the locking one lol.



but other then the axels being different i never felt ANY difference in the non locking and locking so what does it mean?

ShocknAwe

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I can personally vouch for the 4AT NOT being crap. With the right mods and shift points it is a damn good tranny. The guy I bought my V2 off of was making over 400whp. Now grant it it was a far from stock 4AT but still it was a 4AT. The stock 4AT just plain sucks *****

njmaxseltd

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I had the pleasure of blowing up a 5 speed on a boosted 4th gen.
3rd gear, WOT less then 10lbs of boost...

BOOM... That's all she wrote.


Food for thought - The fastest cars down the track (were talking 5 second 1/4) are using automatic transmissions.

dwapenyi

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LSDs make the biggest difference when you accelerate hard out of a corner. Say you made a hard left, the car leans all its wieght on the right side. You hit the gas WOT and the left front wheel spins cause there's no weight on it.

With LSD, that doesn't happen. When you hit the gas the LSD pushes the power to both front wheels and you pull out of the corner faster.