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Old 03-20-2012, 10:14 AM   #1
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Rack and pinion, new, used or remaufactred?

Well it looks like Im gonna have to replace the rack and pinion on my max. Both boots are torn, the driverside is completely torn off and theres fluid everywhere. The question is, whats a good replacement? should I go with a remanufactered rack? a brand new one? or even a used one? Any advice is much appreciated....

I was looking at one of these, the A1cardone or Beckarnley.... good choice?
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i read somewhere that the 97-99 SE models are better than the NON- SE models and 95/96 models as well, not sure how true that is but something to look into.

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Old 03-20-2012, 12:27 PM   #3
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i had a torn boot w/ leaking ps fluid on passenger side a while back; i bought a seal kit and replaced the bad seal (with rack still on vehicle) and put on a new oe boot and no issues since. the seal kit has numerous seals in it (for both sides, internals and for the t-junction where the steering column connects). i just used one (of the two) for the main rack end and would sell you what's left of mine for less than whole kit would cost you but it will only work for you if you only have one side leaking; it sounds like both sides are gone on yours so if both sides are leaking you'll need a new seal kit to get enough for both sides.
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i read somewhere that the 97-99 SE models are better than the NON- SE models and 95/96 models as well, not sure how true that is but something to look into.

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I believe the 99 Rack and pinion > 95-98
I could be wrong though
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I believe the 99 Rack and pinion > 95-98
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i had a torn boot w/ leaking ps fluid on passenger side a while back; i bought a seal kit and replaced the bad seal (with rack still on vehicle) and put on a new oe boot and no issues since. the seal kit has numerous seals in it (for both sides, internals and for the t-junction where the steering column connects). i just used one (of the two) for the main rack end and would sell you what's left of mine for less than whole kit would cost you but it will only work for you if you only have one side leaking; it sounds like both sides are gone on yours so if both sides are leaking you'll need a new seal kit to get enough for both sides.
Iv actually considered rebuilding it, but it looks so tedious. How long did it take you, did it come with directions or did you use a write-up? Was it just take off the tire and you can get to it or did you still have to take everything apart?
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hummm not a bad price for a decent replacement
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99 > Anything.

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But yes really our rack is more responsive and a stiffer/heavier feeling compared to all previous 4th gens.
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I am to about to replace my rack and pinion. Top two brands I see for our 4th gens is beck/arnley and A1 Cardone. which one do you guys recommend? I don't want to spend $1000+ on OEM; I doubt this car will last me 15yrs +.
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it took ~ 4-6 hours (but i was working slowly). you have to take off wheel, remove inner tie rod and big nut that steering rack's piston goes through and then remove seal inside there. the casing of rack where the end nut goes on is peened onto the nut so it's not real easy to unscrew. i drilled hole & used puller on the seal to get it out from the casing but if i had to do over, i would not drain ps fluid right away, but would wait until after i had mostly loosened the big nut and then i would start car and turn wheel back & forth (i believe this will "push" seal out). put big nut into freezer and it will install without much trouble, locktite inner tie rod threads. you may need a new clip for inner tie rod where it meets steering rack piston end join but i re-used mine. it's tight to work with the rack still on the car; if just the one, i'd do it with rack still on the car ; if you want to do a complet or semi-complete rebuild yourself, pull it and work on a bench...it shouldn't take more than a 8-16 hours total if you go that route. no directions with kit; there's probably a write up on rebuilding it if you pull it off of car.
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Our racks are stiffer and heavier eh?

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it took ~ 4-6 hours (but i was working slowly). you have to take off wheel, remove inner tie rod and big nut that steering rack's piston goes through and then remove seal inside there. the casing of rack where the end nut goes on is peened onto the nut so it's not real easy to unscrew. i drilled hole & used puller on the seal to get it out from the casing but if i had to do over, i would not drain ps fluid right away, but would wait until after i had mostly loosened the big nut and then i would start car and turn wheel back & forth (i believe this will "push" seal out). put big nut into freezer and it will install without much trouble, locktite inner tie rod threads. you may need a new clip for inner tie rod where it meets steering rack piston end join but i re-used mine. it's tight to work with the rack still on the car; if just the one, i'd do it with rack still on the car ; if you want to do a complet or semi-complete rebuild yourself, pull it and work on a bench...it shouldn't take more than a 8-16 hours total if you go that route. no directions with kit; there's probably a write up on rebuilding it if you pull it off of car.
WOW! yeah I figured it would be best to take it out and if thats the case I much rather just replace it with a new/reman one.... But its not entirely out of the question. Good stuff man....
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I've read on here that the 99 SE is supposed to have a quicker steering rack.
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A year ago I threw this remanufactured rack & pinion and it's held fine 80-00386. I paid $235 total ($185 + $50 core) for the rack. I challenged them to match a lower priced remanufactured rack I found on the internet so they knocked off $30. You can also get their rack for $15 less on ebay.

Most people squeeze it threw the driver's side wheel well but I dropped the y-pipe and crossmember bar. A new y-pipe was just installed 6 months earlier so dropping that took no time. The lower radiator support needed replacement so might-as-well loosen that crossmember bar.

I actually just welded on a new lower radiator 6 weeks ago so dropping that 14 year old crossmemeber bar sure was easy

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A year ago I threw this refurbished rack & pinion and it's held fine 80-00386. I paid $235 total ($185 + $50 core) for the rack. I challenged them to match a lower priced remanufactured rack I found on the internet so they knocked off $30. You can also get their rack for $15 less on ebay.

Most people squeeze it threw the driver's side wheel well but I dropped the y-pipe and crossmember bar. A new y-pipe was just installed 6 months earlier so dropping that took no time. The lower radiator support needed replacement so might-as-well loosen that crossmember bar.

I actually just welded on a new lower radiator 6 weeks ago so dropping that 14 year old crossmemeber bar sure was easy
Thats not bad, for the core did you have to pay for the shipping back or did they send you a return shipping label?
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They sent a prepaid return label so they handled the charges.
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How can you tell if you are getting a 97-99 rack since they are better? Are there numbers or any identifying marks on the rack other than saying it came from a 97-99 vs a 96 and below? I want to be sure and ask for the right thing when I order my new rack.
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anyone else want to chime in on what would be a good brand to buy? or any other relatable info.... BTW, those of you that need to get yours replaced or have already replaced it, how many miles on your car? Mine has 150k, but Im sure the boots have been torn for at least 15k....
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i was looking on my rack and pinion and it looks like the boots are torn as well and i need bushing as well, im thinking of just replacing the boots....so from what ive been reading correct me if im wrong, a 97-99 rack and pinion will fit a 95-96 maxima?
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