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Old 02-21-2012, 08:26 PM
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OBX V2 Headers on 4th gen

As I'm sure as some of you know, I bought OBX V2's for my car. Now, my previous setup is a budget Y pipe, cattman 2.5'' with a magnaflow muffler. It had a strong low end and fell on it's face up top.

After the install, my mid-range and top definitely increased. The pedal felt so much more responsive. This was definitely worth all the time and hassle. Thanks to all the org members who have helped me out!

BTW, my old setup rasped really badly. After headers, rasp gone. Although, you can hear my cattman exhaust banging.

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Damn I thought you would of waited till the weekend for install, Guess Not, Congrats on the install man.....

Just watched video very nice sound.
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Nice! Sounds good.

Y-pipes usually shifts power up top, though. Not sure why you felt more low end with it.
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how bad were your bolts on exhaust manifold? Any pics of them? Wondering if I should attempt, though my bolts are rusty and hold potential obstacles.

You modify anything?
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I'm also curious if any modifications were made to get these to fit. I'm looking at picking a set up with the tax money.
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Next time you're in Houston, You need to look me up.....So I can fix that banging Cattman catback.....I'm surprised you didn't fix that while you were working those OBX's on to your car!
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Congrats bro very nice, I just picked up a set last week and a catback, hopefully I will have them installed this weekend and i hope it sounds as good
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My car is from Ohio so it has a lot of rust. The bolts were rusted but they came out just fine. I PB blasted them about a week ago, and another time 20 minutes prior to removal. Grinding of the cross member is also needed for a little clearance, it's not much.

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Next time you're in Houston, You need to look me up.....So I can fix that banging Cattman catback.....I'm surprised you didn't fix that while you were working those OBX's on to your car!
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Woooohhh it's on Headlights!!!
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pics of install?
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Good job, bro. Proud of ya. Thinking w throwing a cruise...

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awww sh*t maxima.713 killer right there lol. Sounds good man and looks good keep it up. We need to do a photo shoot when my max gets out the shop!
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Where did you buy them from?
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how much for the headers?
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About $380 depending on where you buy. http://www.racingpartdepot.com/servl...-SYSTEM/Detail

http://www.rsaperformance.com/obxexhesy02n.html?102363
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Where did you buy them from?
tuningdepot ebay. I paid at 12:00 AM, they shipped out the next morning . It was sitting at work 3 days later. amazing service.

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how much for the headers?

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Nice! You got it done!! So you took off the crossmember and the UIM, eh? Did you have fun removing the OEM heatshields?
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Heatshields are easy without the crossmember in.
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I just noticed that this is the obx for vq35de. Is it plug & play to use in 4th gen with vq30de? I means its ok for little grinding in the x member, but how about the install to cylinder head & the rest exhaust parts?
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
Nice! Sounds good.

Y-pipes usually shifts power up top, though. Not sure why you felt more low end with it.
Maybe because he already had a Y?...
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
Maybe because he already had a Y?...
I know fool. What I'm saying is that his top end should've felt better when he just had the y-pipe, not the other way around
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Good job man....and for the last freaking time (for the noobs) 3.5 headers bolt on to 3.0s just fine and 3.0 headers bolt up to the 3.5 just fine. No major modification needed.....use ur brain sometimes or the search
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
I know fool. What I'm saying is that his top end should've felt better when he just had the y-pipe, not the other way around
Top end will always be garbage as long as u have a USIM....unless u boosted
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Originally Posted by datdude20
Good job man....and for the last freaking time (for the noobs) 3.5 headers bolt on to 3.0s just fine and 3.0 headers bolt up to the 3.5 just fine. No major modification needed.....use ur brain sometimes or the search
I am asking politely and you told me to use my brain? Don't you have any manners?
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Originally Posted by std aja de
I am asking politely and you told me to use my brain? Don't you have any manners?
I don't have manners but that question has been asked 1000000000000 times. It wouldnt hurt to use the search function...that's what its there 4

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i got mine for 332 shipped . cross member needed to be cut a bit for clearance and egr delete bcus these are for 02-03 which do not have en egr system
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heres the link
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Originally Posted by datdude20
I don't have manners but that question has been asked 1000000000000 times. It wouldnt hurt to use the search function...that's what its there 4
I am sorry for that, but please respect each others. noobs are the "next generation", aren't they?
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I just threw a backfire last night .
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Originally Posted by VisciousMo
I just threw a backfire last night .
have you checked for exhaust leak? how about the afr?
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Originally Posted by VisciousMo
I just threw a backfire last night .
Car is still learning, shouldn't be doing that in closed loop mode... But open loop....

If I had a test pipe I'd be throwin flames everywhere, constant open loop
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Car is still learning, shouldn't be doing that in closed loop mode... But open loop....

If I had a test pipe I'd be throwin flames everywhere, constant open loop
mine is still throwing backfire, but not so usually as before I re-tuned the "piggyback"... Anyway mine is open loop
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Originally Posted by std aja de
mine is still throwing backfire, but not so usually as before I re-tuned the "piggyback"... Anyway mine is open loop
Open Loop Mode = When the car does not use O2's to maintain AFR, it's a default rich map.

The only way to control AFR then is via MAF signal conditioning, which is how the VAFC works.

So to properly adjust AFR's you can't have the car in closed loop because it will still make adjustments in it's own accord because of the readings from the O2 sensor.

I may be speaking incorrectly, the whole piggyback thing isn't my cup of tea w/ these vehicles, but I'm like 70% confident what I said rings true.

Edit: Watch schmellyfart pwn me w/ his post.... I see you lookin'

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Originally Posted by aackshun
Open Loop Mode = When the car does not use O2's to maintain AFR, it's a default rich map.

The only way to control AFR then is via MAF signal conditioning, which is how the VAFC works.

So to properly adjust AFR's you can't have the car in closed loop because it will still make adjustments in it's own accord because of the readings from the O2 sensor.

I may be speaking incorrectly, the whole piggyback thing isn't my cup of tea w/ these vehicles, but I'm like 70% confident what I said rings true.

Edit: Watch schmellyfart pwn me w/ his post.... I see you lookin'
Mostly correct.

Open loop = heavy load, WOT, etc. In this mode the ecu doesn't care about any sensors regarding the A/F mixture, it simply resorts to a defaulted map which dumps more fuel than needed to remain safe.

In closed loop the ECU takes readings from the stock narrowband 02's and compensates to try and achieve a preprogrammed mixture. This is typically around stoich on stock ecu cars.


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Originally Posted by aackshun
Open Loop Mode = When the car does not use O2's to maintain AFR, it's a default rich map.

The only way to control AFR then is via MAF signal conditioning, which is how the VAFC works.

So to properly adjust AFR's at WOT you can't have the car in closed loop because it will still make adjustments in it's own accord because of the readings from the O2 sensor.

I may be speaking incorrectly, the whole piggyback thing isn't my cup of tea w/ these vehicles, but I'm like 70% confident what I said rings true.

Edit: Watch schmellyfart pwn me w/ his post.... I see you lookin'


MAF signal conditioning isn't the only way to control AFR. Though that is how most of the people on here are tuned. When you condition the MAF signal the timing fluctuates. The other way is controlling the injectors pulse width or duration with an emanage. (idk how UTEC or SMT-6 does its work, I assume they control the injectors similarly)

See this is where MAF signal conditioning comes in handy. Those of us with larger mafs need to be able to adjust AFR in closed loop and do so by playing with the MAF signal.
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These headers are sick as hell on 4th gens...i had OBX V2 for like a year along with my Megan Exhaust and it feels so beautiful!!! no lol
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Open Loop Mode = When the car does not use O2's to maintain AFR, it's a default rich map.

The only way to control AFR then is via MAF signal conditioning, which is how the VAFC works.

So to properly adjust AFR's you can't have the car in closed loop because it will still make adjustments in it's own accord because of the readings from the O2 sensor.

I may be speaking incorrectly, the whole piggyback thing isn't my cup of tea w/ these vehicles, but I'm like 70% confident what I said rings true.

Edit: Watch schmellyfart pwn me w/ his post.... I see you lookin'
That's mean what I thought before was correct, my car doesn't come with o2 sensor.

now I am running on dastek unichip type Q. I don't know what methods that dastek use to tune the afr, but since the dyno & tuning I can read that my car runs on 12,5-14,7. Mostly it got 12,X on WOT and 14,7 on cruising.

anyway what do you think the best engine management mods besides of piggyback? Now I am considering to get these header and e-manage ultimate after my car get home
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Originally Posted by TreizeRXH
how much for the headers?
Originally Posted by Quickywd01
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tuningdepot ebay. I paid at 12:00 AM, they shipped out the next morning . It was sitting at work 3 days later. amazing service.

$380

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i got mine for 332 shipped . cross member needed to be cut a bit for clearance and egr delete bcus these are for 02-03 which do not have en egr system
i paid 300 for mine.
oh and about the cross member...i didnt have to move that anywhere from what i'm aware of...just had to remove one of the buns from the sensors...but i mean, who needs sensors these days. lol


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Top end will always be garbage as long as u have a USIM....unless u boosted
whats the percentage of maximas who have a USIM and are boosted though...
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Ok so help me out here. With these headers the 02 sensors don't fit without molding them. So you guys run without 02 sensors and everything is fine right? I won't have to be a vafc? Thanks for the help.
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Ok so help me out here. With these headers the 02 sensors don't fit without molding them. So you guys run without 02 sensors and everything is fine right? I won't have to be a vafc? Thanks for the help.
They do fit...i just didn't bother to put them on...I'll put them back on for tuning though...
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