Timing chain/tensioner rattle? With video
#1
Timing chain/tensioner rattle? With video
I'm thinking timing chain or tensioner, but judging by the other videos which have been posted, this sounds different
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykzzu0LgsIs
and input is greatly appreciated
99 maxima btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykzzu0LgsIs
and input is greatly appreciated
99 maxima btw
#5
It could be a belt, but its not whishing like one. Timer or something... check that the knock sensor area is all bolted in, or itll trigger it off.
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Interesting rattle. The 99's aren't really prone to TC rattles.
Remove all the drive belts and start the engine, if the nosie is still there your next step
would be to remove the TC cover and inspect the tensioner.
Remove all the drive belts and start the engine, if the nosie is still there your next step
would be to remove the TC cover and inspect the tensioner.
#7
hmm thats a weird one, it doesnt sound like the chain or pulleys.
It sounds like something not bolted down on the engine, exhaust heat shield perhaps ?? have any exhaust work done lately or not at all ?
It sounds like something not bolted down on the engine, exhaust heat shield perhaps ?? have any exhaust work done lately or not at all ?
#9
please, i have 200,000 plus on my max and its made noise since i got it with 129,000 on it. your engine quieted down after it warmed up, put some bg oil treatment in with your next oil change, dealer only item. helps quiet down the rattle a bit and saves a bundle in your pocket. your rattles def different than my 95, but thats probably why.
Last edited by max ride 41; 02-24-2010 at 03:34 PM.
#10
please, i have 200,000 plus on my max and its made noise since i got it with 129,000 on it. your engine quieted down after it warmed up, put some bg oil treatment in with your next oil change, dealer only item. helps quiet down the rattle a bit and saves a bundle in your pocket. your rattles def different than my 95, but thats probably why.
Is that the REALLY thick oil treatment stuff thats supposed to help on cold starts ??
#11
I appreciate all of the input very much
I'll yank the serpentine off and see what happens...
It just sounds so odd, nothing like what I expect a timing chain to sound like. I've had it on a lift etc and haven't seen anything loose...
I'll yank the serpentine off and see what happens...
It just sounds so odd, nothing like what I expect a timing chain to sound like. I've had it on a lift etc and haven't seen anything loose...
#12
About a month ago I bought a 95 Maxima. I love the car, mileage is about right for the year. There is a ticking comming from the engine bay when I idle it, about three ticks a second and it get's faster when i press the gas. I did an oil change, did an engine flush, put synthetic oil in, and I'm using an additive to clean the fuel system. Still ticking though, any ideas? Also the radiator is full of sludge or something near the bottom passenger side, it's all gummed up and black.. does that mean the engine blew and was replaced? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I plan to keep this car for a while. Power is wonderful and fuel economy is awesome.. just want to get rid of that ticking.
#13
About a month ago I bought a 95 Maxima. I love the car, mileage is about right for the year. There is a ticking comming from the engine bay when I idle it, about three ticks a second and it get's faster when i press the gas. I did an oil change, did an engine flush, put synthetic oil in, and I'm using an additive to clean the fuel system. Still ticking though, any ideas? Also the radiator is full of sludge or something near the bottom passenger side, it's all gummed up and black.. does that mean the engine blew and was replaced? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I plan to keep this car for a while. Power is wonderful and fuel economy is awesome.. just want to get rid of that ticking.
best wishes
#14
its common dude, my 95 has always made noise, now it even happens in warm weather. we have have timing chain guides and tensioners that go bad and cause the belt to click because it does;nt line up straight anymore. only way to fix is to replace main tensioner and guide, and might as well do water pump while your in there.
#16
Ive got 265K Timing chain noise is not a big deal, just let her warm up in the morning. also; compression can be a thing to check for that as well, as the tensioner is activated by oil pressure.
Also!
to the hijacker, its your injectors. and no their not broken. they are fine.
Also!
to the hijacker, its your injectors. and no their not broken. they are fine.
#17
Really the injectors? Well whatever it is it's damn loud. I just realized it's burning some oil too, crap n I drive like a grandma so that's not good. What about the oil gunk built up on the bottom passenger side of the radiator.. any idea what could cause that?
#19
I'm thinking timing chain or tensioner, but judging by the other videos which have been posted, this sounds different
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykzzu0LgsIs
and input is greatly appreciated
99 maxima btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykzzu0LgsIs
and input is greatly appreciated
99 maxima btw
Could be the chain too. But honestly i wdnt worry about it.
I had a 93 maxi with a bad tensioner that eventually caused the chain to pop. Trust me man, that chain will be makin a LOT more noise before its ready to fail. It took my 93 2 yrs for that chain to fail and in the end my engine sounded like a helicopter from all the chain rattle.
Plus engines are so cheap. Its more cost effective to replace the engine than try to replace chain, fix bent valves, etc. Unless u can do the work urself.
Last edited by cashoit; 04-30-2010 at 11:16 AM.
#20
Yeah our cars have a lil valve tick. But if the hood is down it shdnt be loud. Audible but not loud.
U may have a tensioner on its way out. 300-500 bucks for mechanic to replace along with water pump. Depends on who u take the car to.
#21
[quote=FallenOne;7529465]Ive got 265K Timing chain noise is not a big deal, just let her warm up in the morning. also; compression can be a thing to check for that as well, as the tensioner is activated by oil pressure.
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This has caught my attention and interested in you explaining more as to how compression is related to the timing chain noise. Are you saying we should do a compression test before replacing the tensioner? If the compression is slightly off, is it guaranteed to still have the cold start rattle?
quote]
This has caught my attention and interested in you explaining more as to how compression is related to the timing chain noise. Are you saying we should do a compression test before replacing the tensioner? If the compression is slightly off, is it guaranteed to still have the cold start rattle?
#22
I had exactly the same noise on my '98 GLE earlier this spring. Took it to the local Nissan shop and they quoted me $1800 for timing chain and tensioner. Luckily, I did not take them up on their offer. I took it to a local independent shop, and he found that it was the alternator! Initially, he also suspected the timing chain, but it wasnt until he listened to the timing chain case with a stethecope that he decided that the noise was not coming from inside the case. A little more digging revealed the alternator. Although I dont think that this independent repair shop did me any favors on the price for the alternator replacement, it sure beat the cost of the timing chain repair - and it actually fixed the problem. I can only imagine the furr fly that would have resulted had I spent the $1800 and kept the problem.
#23
[QUOTE=Trini Boom;7540030]
First off, The chains and guides on these engines are a PITA to replace.. Ive never done one; im not that adventurous and if i did i would just go to the junkyard and attempt it on one of those POS's before i tried it on something
that mattered..
But anyways, the Timing chain tensioner is actuated in part due to the build up in oil pressure. Does your car burn oil? is it noticeable slower than a 4th gen should be? does your oil pressure light stay on for more than just a split second on start up? if you answered yes to any of these check compression.
Otherwise turn up the radio and forget the timing chain tensioner noise. No offense to anyone but the chances of your engine going south due to tensioner issues is substantially less than that of the engine blowing or getting the car wrecked.
Ive got 265K Timing chain noise is not a big deal, just let her warm up in the morning. also; compression can be a thing to check for that as well, as the tensioner is activated by oil pressure.
quote]
This has caught my attention and interested in you explaining more as to how compression is related to the timing chain noise. Are you saying we should do a compression test before replacing the tensioner? If the compression is slightly off, is it guaranteed to still have the cold start rattle?
quote]
This has caught my attention and interested in you explaining more as to how compression is related to the timing chain noise. Are you saying we should do a compression test before replacing the tensioner? If the compression is slightly off, is it guaranteed to still have the cold start rattle?
that mattered..
But anyways, the Timing chain tensioner is actuated in part due to the build up in oil pressure. Does your car burn oil? is it noticeable slower than a 4th gen should be? does your oil pressure light stay on for more than just a split second on start up? if you answered yes to any of these check compression.
Otherwise turn up the radio and forget the timing chain tensioner noise. No offense to anyone but the chances of your engine going south due to tensioner issues is substantially less than that of the engine blowing or getting the car wrecked.
#24
same thing wit mine
i have a 99 se and ever since i bought my baby its been dion the same thing its identicle i just thought nothin of it i have 202k on my car and im out performing cars 5 years newer i wouldnt worry about it dude im not exactally "nice" to my car and its been loyal to me.oh and by the way if anybody knows for sure what it is im interested to know as well.
#25
U dont wanna get into changing guides and tensioners. Especially if the engine has high mileage. Jus replace engine IMO
On initial startup, u may hear a lil tensioner noise for maybe a 1/4 turn of the crankshaft or a split second in real time, but once oil pressure builds the tensioner noise/ slight rattle shd go away.
Nissan designed these engines to never have to be opened up, hence the reason why they use a timing chain and not a belt. If u maintain regular oil changes, u shd never have to change the chain or tensioners, unless there is a problem. Changing the tensioner / or water pump isnt that bad so its do-able. But if there is a problem w/ timing or the chain, its jus cheaper to swap in a new engine.
#28
that probably doesn't help him..
Its A lot of Noise, Also Thank you for Searching!
Put your head by the timing chain cover. If the noise stays constant even after becoming fully warmed up it could be going bad. But for the record.. My Timing Chain Tensioner has been going bad for something like 200K miles. Still Fine.
Its A lot of Noise, Also Thank you for Searching!
Put your head by the timing chain cover. If the noise stays constant even after becoming fully warmed up it could be going bad. But for the record.. My Timing Chain Tensioner has been going bad for something like 200K miles. Still Fine.
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