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Old 09-28-2009, 07:19 AM
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3/8" will be fine. It's not that tight in there.
I tried with 3/8 and pivot socket 12mm and real tight in there. Maybe a magnet rod to seat the socket on bolt.

I may have to get the 1/4 after all.
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DUDE!!!!

I tried to change it for 1.5 hrs and i cannot get the old one off. That bolt is super tight. Im so pissed!!! I think u guys have an older model 1995 or 1996. The 97 max is wicked hard. I can reach it with the 12mm wrench but i dont have enough clearance to torque it adequately. I dont wanna pay 250 to some mechanic to do it. I have a manual tranny so i dont really notice it but i since i had the car the ks has been screwed.

I can get the U joint in there with the socket and extension but i cant get the fawking bolt to loosen urgh!!!!
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DUDE!!!!

I tried to change it for 1.5 hrs and i cannot get the old one off. That bolt is super tight. Im so pissed!!! I think u guys have an older model 1995 or 1996. The 97 max is wicked hard. I can reach it with the 12mm wrench but i dont have enough clearance to torque it adequately. I dont wanna pay 250 to some mechanic to do it. I have a manual tranny so i dont really notice it but i since i had the car the ks has been screwed.

I can get the U joint in there with the socket and extension but i cant get the fawking bolt to loosen urgh!!!!
Try some liquid wrench to unstuck that or something called Release?
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Originally Posted by holymoly
Try some liquid wrench to unstuck that or something called Release?
PB Blaster is good stuff too.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:29 AM
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I saw the liquid wrench and im gonna to buy that stuff and maybe a syringe so i can put a liberal amount on the bolt. Freakin bolt pissed me off bad.

Did u guys need any of that stuff to remove the bolt?
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Originally Posted by cashoit
I saw the liquid wrench and im gonna to buy that stuff and maybe a syringe so i can put a liberal amount on the bolt. Freakin bolt pissed me off bad.

Did u guys need any of that stuff to remove the bolt?
I've done my Max and a friend's Max. No lubricants needed. IIRC, the KS bolt is only torqued to like 15 to 20 ft-lbs.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:43 AM
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Wiz...how did u remove yurs?

There is a a green capped connector at the opening for the KS canal(if u wanna call it that) that makes it harder to remove. Either way im gonna buy that liquid wrench stuff and use a hammer for extra leverage to turn.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
Wiz...how did u remove yurs?
With similar tools just like the ones listed in this thread.

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There is a a green capped connector at the opening for the KS canal(if u wanna call it that) that makes it harder to remove. Either way im gonna buy that liquid wrench stuff and use a hammer for extra leverage to turn.
You can disconnect the green connector, right? Remove/disconnect as many as the easy things as possible.
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:06 AM
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not Release, right ... PB Blaster
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:05 PM
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PB Blaster, Liquid wrench WD40, there all good products, just spray it down and let it soak for 10min. or so. hang in there man, you'll get it!
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Originally Posted by cashoit
I saw the liquid wrench and im gonna to buy that stuff and maybe a syringe so i can put a liberal amount on the bolt. Freakin bolt pissed me off bad.

Did u guys need any of that stuff to remove the bolt?
No sir, popped right out... if you're anywhere near chicago I can probably lend a hand
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:39 AM
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I finally removed my KS last night...got the bruises and cuts to prove it lol.

This is how i did it:

I used some PB blaster and soaked the KS and bolt. Then i let it sit for 2 hrs cuz i had to wait for the engine to cool. I tried a bunch of methods but the one that worked was- i used a 12mm wrench and secured the closed end to the KS bolt. I then connected 2 socket extensions, the 6 and 9 inch i think. Then using the engine block as sort as a pivot/support, i inserted the extension into the open end of the wrench and torqued the wrench until the nut finally loosened! Once the nut was loosened the rest was cake. (my hand fit into the engine KS cavity to hand turn the bolt)

Thanks ppl for the ideas.

Oh and the old KS was cracked and def needed to be replaced. Now 4th gear is ballsy hehe.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
I finally removed my KS last night...got the bruises and cuts to prove it lol.

This is how i did it:

I used some PB blaster and soaked the KS and bolt. Then i let it sit for 2 hrs cuz i had to wait for the engine to cool. I tried a bunch of methods but the one that worked was- i used a 12mm wrench and secured the closed end to the KS bolt. I then connected 2 socket extensions, the 6 and 9 inch i think. Then using the engine block as sort as a pivot/support, i inserted the extension into the open end of the wrench and torqued the wrench until the nut finally loosened! Once the nut was loosened the rest was cake. (my hand fit into the engine KS cavity to hand turn the bolt)

Thanks ppl for the ideas.

Oh and the old KS was cracked and def needed to be replaced. Now 4th gear is ballsy hehe.
Glad you figured it out. You just saved yourself a ton of $$ by doing it yourself too.
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need to remove the green solenoid. but how? the Haines manual shows a screw at bottom, but how do you access? Thought it just popped out of harness?
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Colombianmax that is funny !! I would say from a Honda to a Max !.... lol
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Originally Posted by cashoit
I finally removed my KS last night...got the bruises and cuts to prove it lol.

This is how i did it:

I used some PB blaster and soaked the KS and bolt. Then i let it sit for 2 hrs cuz i had to wait for the engine to cool. I tried a bunch of methods but the one that worked was- i used a 12mm wrench and secured the closed end to the KS bolt. I then connected 2 socket extensions, the 6 and 9 inch i think. Then using the engine block as sort as a pivot/support, i inserted the extension into the open end of the wrench and torqued the wrench until the nut finally loosened! Once the nut was loosened the rest was cake. (my hand fit into the engine KS cavity to hand turn the bolt)

Thanks ppl for the ideas.

Oh and the old KS was cracked and def needed to be replaced. Now 4th gear is ballsy hehe.

Have you changed the KS ? what's your impression ?
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Originally Posted by maxcima
Have you changed the KS ? what's your impression ?
He just said he changed it, and the Max has it's power back ie "ballsy" .....
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Originally Posted by Abimax95
Colombianmax that is funny !! I would say from a Honda to a Max !.... lol
Have you witnessed the change?
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How the hell do you access the bottom bolt to remove the green solenoid assembly?

That's the only way to access th KS.
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Originally Posted by holymoly
How the hell do you access the bottom bolt to remove the green solenoid assembly?

That's the only way to access th KS.
Not sure what you're referring to. Got a pic?
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Originally Posted by holymoly
How the hell do you access the bottom bolt to remove the green solenoid assembly?

That's the only way to access th KS.
You could always just unplug it.

Its not the only way. I removed my girls knock sensor without unplugging that plug in less than 2 mins with a swivel last night.

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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Not sure what you're referring to. Got a pic?
OK the ERGC. Look at ColumbianMax's pictures on post #61.


2 mins? That KS is buried six inches under the manifold.
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holymoly, maybe you should just take the IM off. Everybody'll say you don't have to but after all this time, it's simple to do & will give you all the space you need to get to the KS.
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Originally Posted by holymoly
OK the ERGC. Look at ColumbianMax's pictures on post #61.


2 mins? That KS is buried six inches under the manifold.
Try this. Get some needle nose pliers and squeeze those little tabs holding the EGRC solenoid in place. Then it will slide right out of its home.
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Try this. Get some needle nose pliers and squeeze those little tabs holding the EGRC solenoid in place. Then it will slide right out of its home.
If you look at the picture in post 61 it is screwed down and with hoses, tight access to unscrew the underside, but otherwise there is really no room to manouver.

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Originally Posted by holymoly
OK the ERGC. Look at ColumbianMax's pictures on post #61.


2 mins? That KS is buried six inches under the manifold.
An extention and swivel works wonders.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
I finally removed my KS last night...got the bruises and cuts to prove it lol.

This is how i did it:

I used some PB blaster and soaked the KS and bolt. Then i let it sit for 2 hrs cuz i had to wait for the engine to cool. I tried a bunch of methods but the one that worked was- i used a 12mm wrench and secured the closed end to the KS bolt. I then connected 2 socket extensions, the 6 and 9 inch i think. Then using the engine block as sort as a pivot/support, i inserted the extension into the open end of the wrench and torqued the wrench until the nut finally loosened! Once the nut was loosened the rest was cake. (my hand fit into the engine KS cavity to hand turn the bolt)

Thanks ppl for the ideas.

Oh and the old KS was cracked and def needed to be replaced. Now 4th gear is ballsy hehe.

Nice. The knock sensor has been a pain in my *** the last few years. Mainly because I was using used ones from the junkyard but now I'm running a resistor so I dont have to deal with it anymore.
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Originally Posted by holymoly
If you look at the picture in post 61 it is screwed down and with hoses, tight access to unscrew the underside, but otherwise there is really no room to manouver.

Holymoly man...u been at it a lil while. It sucks i kno


Before i removed mine...i thought about removing that green connector too. But in the end i didnt have too. Have u been able to get yur hand into the cavity for the KS? CAn u get a 12mm to the KS bolt?

THe problem is that there is not enough room to adequately torque the wrench to loosen the bolt. My KS bolt was on SUPER tight. PIDA!!!!

You have to figure out a way to torque the wrench either by taping some wrenches together to make a longer lever arm(didnt work for me but u can try) or by the method i described before.
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Originally Posted by holymoly
If you look at the picture in post 61 it is screwed down and with hoses, tight access to unscrew the underside, but otherwise there is really no room to manouver.
I disagree. I looked at my own Max and can easily access the green EGRC solenoid you're talking about and do what I stated above. No other tools required, just needle nose pliers.

On th flip side, most people don't even bother with this besides temporarily unplugging it. I don't really understand you're having such a hard time.
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
I disagree. I looked at my own Max and can easily access the green EGRC solenoid you're talking about and do what I stated above. No other tools required, just needle nose pliers.

On th flip side, most people don't even bother with this besides temporarily unplugging it. I don't really understand you're having such a hard time.
I only started wednesday, got the part real fast. I can seat the swivel socket on the KS but any turning it slips off. My best bet is to remove not just the green electrical connector but the whole green part as wizard said w/o undoing the complete assembly hoses and all.

Then I can get the wrench in there and lay it flat. Tonight.
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I have figured out the right extension length of the rachet and am easily able to seat the swivel socket on the bolt.

Trying to untighten with rachet the socket easily falls off with even slight pressure. Any ideas?

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I got it! Finally it was jamming the wrench extension against manifold I was able to loosen and with my long skinny fingers even could screw it back in with my hands.

And yes, It does have more jump.

Thanks all.
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hmm... weird so all this time I had a 0304 code and didn't know it. I mean I already think my car is quite powerful I wonder what changing the KS will do to it
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Originally Posted by holymoly
I got it! Finally it was jamming the wrench extension against manifold I was able to loosen and with my long skinny fingers even could screw it back in with my hands.

And yes, It does have more jump.

Thanks all.
Finally!!! Congrats.
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Wow! Over 1300 views already. Guess the ks is a popular nissan discussion after all.
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Originally Posted by WhiteMaxima9600
Wow! Over 1300 views already. Guess the ks is a popular nissan discussion after all.
yea knock sensors are cool!
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I ordered an ebay one for $28. Ill let you guys know how it holds up.
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I ordered an ebay one for $28. Ill let you guys know how it holds up.
Prob the same one Im thinking of getting. Let us know if it's cheaply made
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