WHY do I get 12MPG?????

[ImmaSquashYou]

if i run the oil a LOT past its due, then it gives me REALLY bad gas mileage. Don't know why. I run fully synthetic and change around 6k-7k. My car knows very well when i run it past 7k.

[pmohr]

Originally Posted by FallenOne

They do have the OBDI Consult in the fusebox if im not mistaken.

http://forums.maxima.org/avatars/pmo...ine=1202198098

Notice the pic specifically states that the CONSULT port isn't OBD-I

[djipka]

so here are the results after the trip. 317 miles total. 70 miles town the rest highway. avg 23-24 MPG

[wxm]

Originally Posted by djipka

so here are the results after the trip. 317 miles total. 70 miles town the rest highway. avg 23-24 MPG

So, this is pretty much as good as all of us get. Be happy.

[djipka]

I will try to be happy. I am happy with highway mpg but not with my city

[enik23]

i learned to live with it. i live in chicago i drive pretty agressive, and its 100 percent city i get abou 14. i had a s4 audi for the past month and a half and i get 11 10 on that thing so its okay.

[djipka]

Originally Posted by enik23

i learned to live with it. i live in chicago i drive pretty agressive, and its 100 percent city i get abou 14. i had a s4 audi for the past month and a half and i get 11 10 on that thing so its okay.

which S4 do you have? me and a friend took one from like 2004 with the 4.2 V8 for a test-drive. I live in Salt Lake City and we took it on the freeway here for a couple of exits and we took it to 120 one way and 140 on the way back, and there was some traffic too

[internetautomar]

Originally Posted by enik23

i learned to live with it. i live in chicago i drive pretty agressive, and its 100 percent city i get abou 14. i had a s4 audi for the past month and a half and i get 11 10 on that thing so its okay.

that's what I got out of the Yukon (06) and about the same as my old STS (93)
but it all goes in my never break 15mpg an my old commute. Though my subie did a little better.

[enik23]

Originally Posted by djipka

which S4 do you have? me and a friend took one from like 2004 with the 4.2 V8 for a test-drive. I live in Salt Lake City and we took it on the freeway here for a couple of exits and we took it to 120 one way and 140 on the way back, and there was some traffic too

i got the 07 s4 maxima lovers im sorry but that thing is a streight up beast. I i rape 95% of the cars that try to race me. (only got beat by a few vettes) but AY maxima is still my fav notthing beats the simplicity. changing an air filter took me almost 2 hours on the damn s4.

[djipka]

WOW!!!!
I wish I could do that

When I grow up I will have a faster car, like a M5

[stillenmax99]

I didn't read all the prior responses, but i would recommend checking on your o2 sensor to ensure that they are creating the proper voltage from heat exchange. Generally, this would give you an error code if they failed or went out of range, but not always. The o2 issues would also give you secondary indicator problems...such as poor excelleration, hesitation at times and possibly rpm surging during normal driving.

Also, check to see if your running ethenal/gasoline at your local gas station - this will generally cause you to lose approx. 10 - 15% mpg.

Here in the northwest, they run this additive 1/2 the year at most gas stations. (Generally during the winter months). Major decrease in mileage is always noticed.

[djipka]

my O2 sensors are less than a year old.
how do I check is the gas has ethanol in it? I tried looking for a sticker on the pump but didn't see anything.

[MDeezy]

i think chuck noris loosened up bank 1 sensor #2 and spit on your knock sensor

[B_Eaze]

Originally Posted by MDeezy

i think chuck noris loosened up bank 1 sensor #2 and spit on your knock sensor

If Chuck Norris was involved the O2 sensor would be nowhere to be found...

If its ethanol/gas than that sux cuz they make ZERO effort to inform consumers, well not enough at least.

[MDeezy]

Originally Posted by B_Eaze

If Chuck Norris was involved the O2 sensor would be nowhere to be found...

If its ethanol/gas than that sux cuz they make ZERO effort to inform consumers, well not enough at least.

He wasnt trying to kill the o2 sensor cause all he would have to do is just stare at it and the o2 would have jumped off the vehicle and flung itself into on going traffic.

[maximomo]

I've had horrible CITY gas mileage on my I30 for the past couple months and performance started to drop. Then I started get lean error codes and I couldn't find anything blatantly wrong even using my Datascan software.
It had me completely stumped until Friday--now it's fixed.

Since I bought this car in April I've replaced a bunch of stuff and the mpg and performance was great until recently. So far I've replaced both O2 sensors, plugs, injectors, fuel filter, added KN Air filter, replaced MAF & TPS, replaced bad crank sensor and Knock sensor, tested every other sensor. I've cleaned the EGR port and throttle body. Took the intake plenum off and made sure it was true and installed a new gasket. Replace the thermostat. Located and cleaned ALL ground connections. New ATF and oil. Tire pressure runs about 35PSI and I have NO brake drag. NONE of this was related to my recent drop in city mpg.

So, how did I fix my problem?

Took off the EGR valve and related parts and cleaned the crap out of the valve. Then put it back on WITH gaskets (there weren't any when I took it off) and replaced all of the hoses that had anything to do with EGR.

While I had the plenum off I noticed the valves and valve guides in cylinder #1 had some carbon buildup compared to the rest (probably a previous leaking injector) so I cleaned all of that out too.

My I30 now pulls ahead with that thrust my head back in the seat power we all know the Maxima/I30 can deliver. City gas mileage jumped from 14 to 18 and I'm not driving easy--it's way too much fun to drive like I'm in a race!

Hope this helps someone. It has been ticking me off for a long time now!

[Problemchild1one]

well im gettin about 255 miles to a tank filled up tuesday from a quater to F and now after thanksGiving im almost at E and 255miles later which only took me to fill up was 11 gallons thats like 23.18 miles to the gallon i guess it sucks but still is better than 12, but what do u guys think about getting 23.18 miles to the gallon?

[B_Eaze]

Originally Posted by Problemchild1one

well im gettin about 255 miles to a tank filled up tuesday from a quater to F and now after thanksGiving im almost at E and 255miles later which only took me to fill up was 11 gallons thats like 23.18 miles to the gallon i guess it sucks but still is better than 12, but what do u guys think about getting 23.18 miles to the gallon?

Buddy, you have a VQ30 not a hybrid. 23 mpg is pretty good for a 10 year old car. i think i'm gettin 19 mpg

[snarf8008]

i'm having roughly the same problem. i'm getting pretty bad mileage. I also can smell gas when stopped in traffic and when i park my car. I've noticed some dampness on two of the vacuum lines going to my evap vent control valve. Am i correct in assuming that this valve is the cause of my problems? I also have a PO440 code (small evap leak).

[B_Eaze]

Originally Posted by snarf8008

i'm having roughly the same problem. i'm getting pretty bad mileage. I also can smell gas when stopped in traffic and when i park my car. I've noticed some dampness on two of the vacuum lines going to my evap vent control valve. Am i correct in assuming that this valve is the cause of my problems? I also have a PO440 code (small evap leak).

i believe so
Fix the code, fix the mpg...

[djipka]

you guys said a lot for a day.
There are some things that sound useful, but I don't think I'll go all out to fix that much stuff.

maximomo - thanks for the information! I am still not brave enough to take the IM off and do all that work. Everything else that you have done I have as well. I need to change both of the valve cover gaskets and the IM one too. I think after new year's with the tax refund I will take it to a shop and have them do all that. I know it will cost me money but..... I am not brave enough for this kind of job.

how hard is it anyway? can someone give some info on the subject or may be a link?

[djipka]

a little update on the MPG

this week I filled up and have gone about 85 miles in-town-only driving and according to the gauge I have only used 1/4 tank. that means I can get over 320 miles to the tank.

320/18= about 17mpg which is MUCH better than before. since its winter and with my short trips I think that would be plenty. The way I achieved that is staying off the gas pedal

[pmohr]

Originally Posted by djipka

a little update on the MPG

this week I filled up and have gone about 85 miles in-town-only driving and according to the gauge I have only used 1/4 tank. that means I can get over 320 miles to the tank.

320/18= about 17mpg which is MUCH better than before. since its winter and with my short trips I think that would be plenty. The way I achieved that is staying off the gas pedal

You aren't seriously trying to make a mathematical calculation of MPG by watching your gas gauge, are you?

Not to mention, assuming that because you got 85 miles for approximately (and probably nowhere near) a 1/4 tank, that you can get 255 more miles out of the tank?

[djipka]

I guess you are right. What I was trying to say was that for the last month or so, since I've had the bad mpg I was going like 90 miles a week and that was about half a tank of gas. so now I am 100% sure my mpg is better since I am at 85 miles and definatly not at half a tank

[Juicey]

It's all ethanol's fault!

[ImmaSquashYou]

Originally Posted by Juicey

It's all ethanol's fault!

indeed.....i remember i had to hunt down the last gas station that didn't switch over to ethynol yet. But now, they're everywhere!!!! imo..i think that BP has the highest percentage of enthynol in their gas....i burn through that crap like its water running through a hose...

[njmaxseltd]

You guys do not know how to correctly calculate MPG. Reading your gas gauge is not the way to do it.

You need to fill up, reset the trip ODO and drive until your almost empty. Then fill up again, watch the gas pump and make sure you record the gallons the pump puts into your tank. Now take the miles on your trip ODO and divide it by the gallons used.

That is the only way to calculate your MPG. Watching your gas gauge is the IDIOT way to do it and is grossly(sp?) inaccurate.