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Old 11-14-2008, 06:14 PM   #1
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DO NOT! I REPEAT DO NOT!!!!!BUY AFTERMARKET UNDERDRIVE PULLEYS!!!!!!!!

So i after i got the pulley, had to get new belts....got it installed..it ran....no gains whatsoever. just metal and shiny. it made my tensioner go bad. replaced the tensioner... 3 days ago i start the car it starts sounding funky....like when u clip a baseball card to the back of ur bicycle. Frustrated as can be "1 injector went bad last week..." I try looking to see whats wrong with it.......lift the car up....take the wheel off....the shields...and i see that my MotherF*****G pulley is cracked! so i ask for advice on what to do....only thing i can do really is replace it. So i found my oem one and got a belt for it....loosened up the idler pulley...turned the tensioner..... finally got 1 belt off.....then after struggling to get teh underdrive pulley bolt off....i got someone to come with an airgun to take it off.....the freaking pulley just fell off! On a worse note...the freaking center part of the pulley is jammed onto my crankshaft....and i cant get it off now...i tried to take a visegrip and then screwdriver behind it to pry it off....didnt work...feels almost as if its welded togehter...no play at all.....i dont know what to do anymore im soo FRUSTRATED!!!

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Old 11-14-2008, 06:30 PM   #2
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Ouch!!! That sucks. You could try a really micro lubricant to get the middle off.


Who made this one?
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wow that's really bad. Which Brand was it?
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20 bucks says made in china no it
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:50 PM   #5
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That is going to be a tough one to take out,can you post the pics so we all can see what can be done hear. I would try to pry the damn thing with something tall and skinny to fit in there so you can try to wrench it out.
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is the bolt out of it... if so you could try and use some heat to get it off thats if you have access to a torch sometimes we have to use torches to get stuck stuff like that off at the shop i work at..
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looks like an obx one from ebay....just a guess though
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WOW, cheap parts FTL.
I ran the UR pulley for years and never had any issues.
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whatshisname had an orthodox junk his motor. On top of that none of them are a harmonic balancer, so they are all cheap peices of ****.
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ok so i tried puttin vise grips on it and then prying it off with a screwdriver.....i think im going to have to cut into it........and take it off that way..no other choice...=/ i just need to get it to run bc im going 3.5 in the next month or 2.
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I would look for a small pulley puller. That might get that chunk off...
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WOW, cheap parts FTL.
I ran the UR pulley for years and never had any issues.
Same here.
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I have been running the unorthodox for probably 8 years now. No problems to speak of.
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I would heat it a little and try to pry it again. That should do the trick!!
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whatshisname had an orthodox junk his motor. On top of that none of them are a harmonic balancer, so they are all cheap peices of ****.

I am curious, what exactly is a harmonic balancer and how is it integrated into the stock pulley? Are there any serious adverse effects on the engine from not having a harmonic balancer?
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I am curious, what exactly is a harmonic balancer and how is it integrated into the stock pulley? Are there any serious adverse effects on the engine from not having a harmonic balancer?
if your motor aint blue printed and balanced i would have to say so...
Every time the cylinders fire, torque is imparted to the crankshaft. The crankshaft deflects under this torque, which sets up vibrations when the torque is released. At certain engine speeds the torques imparted by the cylinders are in synch with the vibrations in the crankshaft, which results in a phenomenon called resonance. This resonance causes stress beyond what the crankshaft can withstand, resulting in crankshaft failure.

To prevent this vibration, a harmonic balancer is attached to the front part of the crankshaft. The damper is composed of two elements: a mass and an energy dissipating element. The mass resists the acceleration of the vibration and the energy dissipating (rubber/clutch/fluid) element absorbs the vibrations.
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I BELIEVE THE OEM ONE SAYS THAT IT REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE RUBBER ON THE PULLEY. THE AFTERMARKET ONES DONT....

i just realized that was all in caps lol. sorry i don wna retype it.

but...im gonna figure it out when i get the chance...for now im driving my bucket 4th gen lol


also..for those who say theyve had the pulley...was there a gain? doubt its a noticable one...thats it for now..gonna post up with updates 2m.
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I would try to hammering on the chuck with a dead blow hammer. The non marking type and see if you can get it to virbate lose. Otherwise you may have to drop the motor to ge it lose.

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yeah man i would go that far saying underdrive pulleys are bad..i had a obx one and didnt have a problem with it at all..i think u just had sum bad like with that one man..it happens.sorry to hear about it...nothing like a bunch of car trouble lol SOO FRUSTRATING!!!
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So what brand is it?????????? (repeat q)
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Here's how to remove the bolt....

http://forums.maxima.org/6692250-post2229.html
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im honestly not sure. someone sold it to me....all im saying is....DON't BUY THEM THEY DONT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AND ITS JUST A HEADACHE TO GET TO IT AND THE WHOLE DEAL........

this is not for the sc'd folks i dont know if it makes a bigger diff for y'all.
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nope not for use supercharged guys at all...( loose boost )
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I dont care how many people say theirs have not failed. I have seen enough of threads about these failing and breaking to never ever bother buying one for what tiny gain they provide. The lightweight flywheel will be plenty fine for me.
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Was it installed correctly? Did you put a new crankshaft oil seal and the correct sized belts upon installation? I've read that you can use a gear puller to remove a crank pulley.
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I have the UR LIGHTWEIGHT Crank Pulley.. NOT the underdrive. I got it simply because I was installing the MEVI, and thought that the pulley would make up for the slight loss in mid-range power that I was going to suffer with the MEVI. I was NOT impressed. I did not notice ANY sort of gain with it, although I havent had any problems with it either. I definately wouldnt go recommending them if you are looking for an actual gain! Now I'm crossing my fingers!
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whatshisname had an orthodox junk his motor. On top of that none of them are a harmonic balancer, so they are all cheap peices of ****.
Our cars dont use a harmonic balancer, they use a har