Intake Question
10-24-2008, 06:27 PM
#1
Intake Question
Ok guys..... i am back with yet another question for the day. o_O
ok.... i do not know how many of you actually have a BOMZ Cold Air Intake, but here are a couple of photos of my intake, and my whistling problem..
most of you also have this whistle with other intakes.. but since this is a BOMZ intake, iono whether it would make a difference. but here are the pictures.
here is the little plug on my intake that i can't seem to seal up... and sometimes when it starts, it kinda chokes at times.. cuz of that plug drawing air in.. giving it inaccurate readings i guess.. i have tried everything to plug it up but no luck... jb weld didn't help either..
so what are suggestions or DIY for this? any help is appreciated. thanks so much
and the black stuff that is keeping it from going in is electrical tape.. ELECTRICAL TAPE FTW!!
and by the way.... give me your inputs on this as well.. i got the best battery on the market. the world famous "neverstart" battery.
ok.... i do not know how many of you actually have a BOMZ Cold Air Intake, but here are a couple of photos of my intake, and my whistling problem..
most of you also have this whistle with other intakes.. but since this is a BOMZ intake, iono whether it would make a difference. but here are the pictures.
here is the little plug on my intake that i can't seem to seal up... and sometimes when it starts, it kinda chokes at times.. cuz of that plug drawing air in.. giving it inaccurate readings i guess.. i have tried everything to plug it up but no luck... jb weld didn't help either..
so what are suggestions or DIY for this? any help is appreciated. thanks so much
and the black stuff that is keeping it from going in is electrical tape.. ELECTRICAL TAPE FTW!!
and by the way.... give me your inputs on this as well.. i got the best battery on the market. the world famous "neverstart" battery.
10-24-2008, 07:04 PM
#3
dude really?
thanks man... well... it is just dangling out and about... NOT GOOD..
but how do i come about and put it in? and have a good seal at the same time? maybe BOMZ knows? but they do not answer their emails or phone calls
10-24-2008, 07:25 PM
#4
Well, to start, I think you have it set up wrong. Here is how it should be:
To seal the sensor hole, I used black silicone sealant around the grommet and then on the sensor where it touches the grommet. As far as I know, it doesn't leak.
I may be able to get better pictures tomorrow.
David
To seal the sensor hole, I used black silicone sealant around the grommet and then on the sensor where it touches the grommet. As far as I know, it doesn't leak.
I may be able to get better pictures tomorrow.
David
10-24-2008, 07:31 PM
#5
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OK here is the deal. First of all where is ur Mass Air flow sensor??? u need that!!! and u are also going to need to remove ur battery to cut a hole for the intake tube to go down. If u search the forum u should find a BOMBZ intake template u can use!! The pics above should help!! i have the same intake...and get the same "whistle noise" its just the sound of it sucking in air. U do also need ur air temp sensor hooked in somehow. I however didnt use that plug bc u would have to drill into the intake tubing. Here is what i did. remove one of ur spectre couplers and feed the temp sensor inside the tubing and then put the coupler back on over the wire. then tighten everything back up!! i didnt put the air temp sensor on at first and my CEL came on. Now that i have it in the tubing my CEL is no longer on. GOOD LUCK!!!
Last edited by dfruits; 10-24-2008 at 07:34 PM.
10-24-2008, 07:37 PM
#6
When I had the bomz intake, i just put the sensor in the hole and the rubber held it in place... As posted above you can use silicone to make sure that it stays in.
A side note, though, where is your MAF?!
That setup just does not look right. My BOMZ intake went down into the fender well and required the drilling of a 3.25" hole beneath the battery tray. Is your check engine light on?
A side note, though, where is your MAF?!
That setup just does not look right. My BOMZ intake went down into the fender well and required the drilling of a 3.25" hole beneath the battery tray. Is your check engine light on?
10-24-2008, 07:52 PM
#7
omfg....this is hilarious. Why is the intake shooting straight down?!?! lollllllllll
that intake sensor doesnt really do **** but it'll serve as a better plug then whatever your doing with the electrical tape. Seriously though dude...you need to read a manual or something before you touch things under the hood lol.
that intake sensor doesnt really do **** but it'll serve as a better plug then whatever your doing with the electrical tape. Seriously though dude...you need to read a manual or something before you touch things under the hood lol.
Last edited by chillin014; 10-24-2008 at 07:55 PM.
10-24-2008, 07:56 PM
#8
OK here is the deal. First of all where is ur Mass Air flow sensor??? u need that!!! and u are also going to need to remove ur battery to cut a hole for the intake tube to go down. If u search the forum u should find a BOMBZ intake template u can use!! The pics above should help!! i have the same intake...and get the same "whistle noise" its just the sound of it sucking in air. U do also need ur air temp sensor hooked in somehow. I however didnt use that plug bc u would have to drill into the intake tubing. Here is what i did. remove one of ur spectre couplers and feed the temp sensor inside the tubing and then put the coupler back on over the wire. then tighten everything back up!! i didnt put the air temp sensor on at first and my CEL came on. Now that i have it in the tubing my CEL is no longer on. GOOD LUCK!!!
if you look at the second picture of my intake above... you will see the MAF sensor... can't miss it.. i have it directly after the filter..
10-24-2008, 07:59 PM
#9
omfg....this is hilarious. Why is the intake shooting straight down?!?! lollllllllll
that intake sensor doesnt really do **** but it'll serve as a better plug then whatever your doing with the electrical tape. Seriously though dude...you need to read a manual or something before you touch things under the hood lol.
that intake sensor doesnt really do **** but it'll serve as a better plug then whatever your doing with the electrical tape. Seriously though dude...you need to read a manual or something before you touch things under the hood lol.
i didn't want to cut into my car.. i could try to cut the fender well someday.. but i def. need to get that MAF towards the top ASAP.
10-24-2008, 08:08 PM
#10
If you don't want to drill the hole, you could get the MAF back up to the top and just eliminate the curved tube altogether; it's not really serving its purpose if you do not drill the hole for it. Basically you would turn it into a short ram style intake - TB-> midpipe-> MAF-> MAF adapter/cone filter. Your performance would be about the same, because your current setup isn't really accomplishing much besides sucking in warm air (kind of like the Injen style intakes). If you installed the intake just for the sound, you won't lose any sound by running it as a short ram. To be honest, aftermarket intakes don't really add anything to our cars apart from sound.
Last edited by CRiME; 10-24-2008 at 08:14 PM.
10-24-2008, 08:10 PM
#11
U do also need ur air temp sensor hooked in somehow. I however didnt use that plug bc u would have to drill into the intake tubing. Here is what i did. remove one of ur spectre couplers and feed the temp sensor inside the tubing and then put the coupler back on over the wire. then tighten everything back up!!
10-24-2008, 08:16 PM
#12
If you don't want to drill the hole, you could get the MAF back up to the top and just eliminate the curved tube altogether; it's not really serving its purpose if you do not drill the hole for it. Basically you would turn it into a short ram style intake - TB-> midpipe-> MAF-> MAF adapter/cone filter. Your performance would be about the same, because your current setup isn't really accomplishing much besides sucking in warm air from the radiator fans. If you installed the intake just for the sound, you won't lose any sound by running it as a short ram. To be honest, aftermarket intakes don't really add anything to our cars apart from sound.
yeah, i know.. that is what i was worried about.. i read on the org somehwere.. that they had the CAI, the factory intake and the short ram and the difference in power..
and i figured that if i did the short ram... i would have wasted a bunch of my time buying it and could have had my home made pop charger on it... and secondly, i wasn't doing it for the sound... but as i read before.. they said the factory air box had mid range power.. the cold air.. i meant warm air intake, technically a cold air when you drive... has high end power gain.. and the short ram has low end power??? correct me if i am wrong, but that is what i fear... loss of performance.. and such. but iono... i want to keep the intake in the car.. i might drill a hole.. but i like your idea better since, 1, it will keep water out, 2, the maf would be in a much safer enviroment, and 3, it shouldn't suck in as much warm air than it did before.. but iono.. what you think about it?
and plus i aint the type of guy to be like... Screw you.. i want to do what makes me happy... i am only 18.. i take risk and see consequences then learn from it.. i am glad to take any type of advice from anyone. i learn something new about my maxima everyday.
Last edited by dkillahster; 10-24-2008 at 08:19 PM.
10-24-2008, 08:29 PM
#13
yeah, i know.. that is what i was worried about.. i read on the org somehwere.. that they had the CAI, the factory intake and the short ram and the difference in power..
and i figured that if i did the short ram... i would have wasted a bunch of my time buying it and could have had my home made pop charger on it... and secondly, i wasn't doing it for the sound... but as i read before.. they said the factory air box had mid range power.. the cold air.. i meant warm air intake, technically a cold air when you drive... has high end power gain.. and the short ram has low end power??? correct me if i am wrong, but that is what i fear... loss of performance.. and such. but iono... i want to keep the intake in the car.. i might drill a hole.. but i like your idea better since, 1, it will keep water out, 2, the maf would be in a much safer enviroment, and 3, it shouldn't suck in as much warm air than it did before.. but iono.. what you think about it?
and plus i aint the type of guy to be like... Screw you.. i want to do what makes me happy... i am only 18.. i take risk and see consequences then learn from it.. i am glad to take any type of advice from anyone. i learn something new about my maxima everyday.
and i figured that if i did the short ram... i would have wasted a bunch of my time buying it and could have had my home made pop charger on it... and secondly, i wasn't doing it for the sound... but as i read before.. they said the factory air box had mid range power.. the cold air.. i meant warm air intake, technically a cold air when you drive... has high end power gain.. and the short ram has low end power??? correct me if i am wrong, but that is what i fear... loss of performance.. and such. but iono... i want to keep the intake in the car.. i might drill a hole.. but i like your idea better since, 1, it will keep water out, 2, the maf would be in a much safer enviroment, and 3, it shouldn't suck in as much warm air than it did before.. but iono.. what you think about it?
and plus i aint the type of guy to be like... Screw you.. i want to do what makes me happy... i am only 18.. i take risk and see consequences then learn from it.. i am glad to take any type of advice from anyone. i learn something new about my maxima everyday.
Don't worry about drilling the hole man, trust me. When I bought the BOMZ, I put off drilling the hole for a couple months too and ran it as a short ram. Finally went to home depot and bought the 3.25" hole saw bit, and I was done with the install in about 30 minutes. If you decide to do it, I have a template that might help you with the marking & drilling of the hole. Best part is that you will have a "true CAI", since the filter will be in its own clean, safe compartment, separate from the heat of the engine bay
10-24-2008, 08:31 PM
#15
not a big deal, I got a laugh out of it.
Your worrying about minuscule gains honestly...as far as the low/mid/high range. I sound pessimistic but I've done it all and it seems any gains/losses are placebo.
tigersharkman you sure do have alot of wire loom...
Your worrying about minuscule gains honestly...as far as the low/mid/high range. I sound pessimistic but I've done it all and it seems any gains/losses are placebo.
tigersharkman you sure do have alot of wire loom...
10-24-2008, 08:36 PM
#16
Just a little FYI but having your CAI in the middle of your engine is a little counter productive. Its sucking in warm air from the transmission and the radiator. You are probably loosing HP with it like that. also... I would recommend using some hot glue to seal up the whole... works wonders.
I know cutting into the car can seem scary but it's kinda easy if you have the template and a dremel. You should have a little faith in yourself and just do it so you use you intake as it was ment to be a cai.
Also you would have to drive through a pretty large puddle for water to even be and issue.
I know cutting into the car can seem scary but it's kinda easy if you have the template and a dremel. You should have a little faith in yourself and just do it so you use you intake as it was ment to be a cai.
Also you would have to drive through a pretty large puddle for water to even be and issue.
10-24-2008, 08:38 PM
#17
thanks man.
10-24-2008, 08:40 PM
#18
I guess you can keep it the way you have it at the moment, but I would be concerned about water and the MAF location also. Just get the intake air temp. sensor in there and put a little silicone to hold it in place.
Don't worry about drilling the hole man, trust me. When I bought the BOMZ, I put off drilling the hole for a couple months too and ran it as a short ram. Finally went to home depot and bought the 3.25" hole saw bit, and I was done with the install in about 30 minutes. If you decide to do it, I have a template that might help you with the marking & drilling of the hole. Best part is that you will have a "true CAI", since the filter will be in its own clean, safe compartment, separate from the heat of the engine bay
Don't worry about drilling the hole man, trust me. When I bought the BOMZ, I put off drilling the hole for a couple months too and ran it as a short ram. Finally went to home depot and bought the 3.25" hole saw bit, and I was done with the install in about 30 minutes. If you decide to do it, I have a template that might help you with the marking & drilling of the hole. Best part is that you will have a "true CAI", since the filter will be in its own clean, safe compartment, separate from the heat of the engine bay
please send it to my email.. or send a link.. that wud be great man.
dkillahster@gmail.com
10-24-2008, 08:49 PM
#20
10-24-2008, 08:52 PM
#21
10-24-2008, 09:59 PM
#22
Wow, thats a first where I have seen that install get so botched. Yah man get to work on getting that fixed this weekend.
Also check out my setup if you are feeling adventurous and try using the stock resonator box with the CAI bend. I feel its the best setup.
http://s4.tinypic.com/292kvf5.jpg
Also check out my setup if you are feeling adventurous and try using the stock resonator box with the CAI bend. I feel its the best setup.
http://s4.tinypic.com/292kvf5.jpg
10-24-2008, 10:15 PM
#23
i don't want to jack the thread but i see pics with these intakes from guys with AT...
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
Last edited by allensteiner21; 10-24-2008 at 10:17 PM.
10-25-2008, 03:06 AM
#24
i don't want to jack the thread but i see pics with these intakes from guys with AT...
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
10-25-2008, 06:35 AM
#27
i don't want to jack the thread but i see pics with these intakes from guys with AT...
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
that's what i have and i noticed a big loss on the bottom end. that's until i cut it
after cutting off as much as possible off the mid pipe and intake pipe i got my bottom
back and the car feels more responsive as in i can finally spin tires without dumping into D.
just something to think about.
spinning the tires has less to do with power than you think. Especially if your neutral dropping the ****. just stop.
10-25-2008, 08:11 AM
#28
it has failed me miserably...
iono why it dies so fast... my friend can have his sound system playing for about 30 minutes.... at full blast.. with the hood and trunk up.. and yet he can still crank it up... but for me.. i have less than 10 minutes on full blast... with music, and everything open..
10-25-2008, 08:15 AM
#29
Wow, thats a first where I have seen that install get so botched. Yah man get to work on getting that fixed this weekend.
Also check out my setup if you are feeling adventurous and try using the stock resonator box with the CAI bend. I feel its the best setup.
http://s4.tinypic.com/292kvf5.jpg
Also check out my setup if you are feeling adventurous and try using the stock resonator box with the CAI bend. I feel its the best setup.
http://s4.tinypic.com/292kvf5.jpg
i feel so jacked.... i do not think my intake is a true bomz intake....
it only has the bomz filter... oh well... that is what you get for buying from ebay i guess... which is where everything i got for this car came from..
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10-25-2008, 02:28 PM
#31
like they're a good company...mine's a no-name and looks and does the same - don't worry about it. ebay is at least cheap and it's better (smarter) to spend $30 on ebay for an intake than $200+ from injen or other. same with headlights and many other parts - most of them made with small chinese hands
10-25-2008, 02:31 PM
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