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Old 07-22-2008, 03:26 PM
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I'm Desperate, what is wrong with my dam car?

Make it easy to read, I have tried so much but haven't come up successful. I read similiar threads but still nothing. My windows and locks fail.
  • 95 gxe
  • front drivers side window and lock works
  • sun roof works
  • all other windows and locks DON'T work (no, window lock button isnt the problem)
  • keyless entry doesnt work either
  • I've checked every fuse and they seem alright
  • I looked at relays
  • I replaced BCM and plugged everything in right

What can be the problem? I am really desperate at this point and will try anything. plz help

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Old 07-22-2008, 04:10 PM
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It's possible that your wiring inside the door pannel is broken or grounding out. So .. to clarify - it's rear doors only, windows (both) and locks (both) ???? Some times if someone has used a slim jim on the door, it can pull the wires, cut them and cause them to ground out, or pull them apart at the plug. Not sure ... you might have to pull the door pannel apart and see.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:11 PM
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Im sorry, I cant really help. But IIRC there was a thread, maybe even a sticky about this(or similar). Try searching. Might help. Good luck. ^ Also has a good idea, what may be your problem.
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hmmm i have a door problem too... the back doors dont always lock... windows are fine.. its just when i press the lock button the rear door locks dont make the full motion to the locked posisiton... anyone have an idea on this?
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Originally Posted by JtzMax
It's possible that your wiring inside the door pannel is broken or grounding out. So .. to clarify - it's rear doors only, windows (both) and locks (both) ???? Some times if someone has used a slim jim on the door, it can pull the wires, cut them and cause them to ground out, or pull them apart at the plug. Not sure ... you might have to pull the door pannel apart and see.
sry I just edited my post. Just my front drivers side window and lock works. The other 3 dont. The passengers door panel is already off. This all started when I was installing a head unit, guess I touched something but I was being very careful with wires.

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Old 07-23-2008, 07:04 AM
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:28 AM
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I am on the road so don't have the FSM in front of me. The windows and doors are controlled by a bus. In each door is a micro-controller to control the functions in that door. The driver door issues a command thru this bus. Each door unit then act on this command from the driver door.

If your driver side works and other three doors don't work, the bus wire is broken, probably in the driver door or in the hinge area. Look it up in the FSM.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SVI30
I am on the road so don't have the FSM in front of me. The windows and doors are controlled by a bus. In each door is a micro-controller to control the functions in that door. The driver door issues a command thru this bus. Each door unit then act on this command from the driver door.

If your driver side works and other three doors don't work, the bus wire is broken, probably in the driver door or in the hinge area. Look it up in the FSM.
.... good thinking!
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:36 PM
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These buses is in cars are used in effort to reduce weight and cost of copper in the car as the car got more complexed. The infotainment system is also on a bus now for the newer cars. The most popular one is called MOST and use optical fiber.

People say "you can't work on today's cars anymore" which is not true at all. We just need documentation such as FSMs.

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SVI30
I am on the road so don't have the FSM in front of me. The windows and doors are controlled by a bus. In each door is a micro-controller to control the functions in that door. The driver door issues a command thru this bus. Each door unit then act on this command from the driver door.

If your driver side works and other three doors don't work, the bus wire is broken, probably in the driver door or in the hinge area. Look it up in the FSM.
I will look into that, thanks
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:25 AM
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replaced a working BCM and working master switch and still nothing! I am still reading some recent posts but if anyone has nething to add plz do
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:39 AM
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did you try checking the wires for breaks yet?
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
did you try checking the wires for breaks yet?
no i havent but if they were broken, would the drivers side window still work?
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:47 AM
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yes ^^^ because a bus runs the controls for the other 3 doors. you have a master switch to control the drivers door. check for broken wires
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Originally Posted by ThurzNite
This should be stickied:

Power Door Lock diagnosis procedure

Pre-diagnosis setup:
Ignition switch: off
dome light: on (this's the map light for front passengers)
rear window defogger: off
doors: closed
interior lamp: center "O" position

1) Turn ignition switch "ON"
2) Return ignition switch to "OFF" and press rear window defogger switch more than 10 times during 10 seconds
3) Self diagnostic results indicator lamps should turn on
4) Rear window defogger switch stays OFF
5) Turn ignition switch "ON" within 5 seconds after the indicator lamp turns on
6) Indicator lamp turns off
...after a second...
7) Mode 3 diagnosis is performed
8) Turn ignition switch "OFF"
9) Diagnosis end
*make sure all lights are out.

Description:
The malfunction code is indicated by the number of flashes from the front map light and step lamps. Count the number of short flashes.
Legend:
Code 1: Driver door lock actuator/unlock sensor
Code 2: Passenger door lock actuator/unlock sensor
Code 3: Rear RH door lock actuator/unlock sensor
Code 4: Rear LH door lock actuator/unlock sensor
Code 5: No malfunction in the above items

What to do if you get Code 1-4? Check door unlock sensor, and door lock actuator.

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have you tried that?
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:16 AM
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I thought that the "Bus" control scheme didn't come around until the 97 maxima's?
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it worked on my 96
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rcintorino
I thought that the "Bus" control scheme didn't come around until the 97 maxima's?
You mean the IVMS system? Nope, all A32s.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:21 PM
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- Check every fuse 2 times, the ones inside cabin and in the motor
- check hidden relays, next to clutch (5sp) are a couple of hidden relays - get a haynes manual
- last option, take it to a nissan shop have this diagnosed for $100 ...not that bad for the time you are going to waste n get frustrated....amen
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Old 09-11-2008, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fat_kid
have you tried that?
Tried that nothing.


Gonna take apart door panel either tomorrow afternoon or Saturday and look for loose or broken wires and hope I can solve my problem
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