R34 HID Conversion

tigersharkdude · 07-09-2008, 04:08 PM

check it out, i got R34 Style headlights in my max, i want to convert to HID's.
these lights convert from a 9004, to 9005 & 9006. ive been told that i need 9004 balasts. is this true. if so how would i order this

**mtrai760** · 07-09-2008, 04:22 PM

You need to retrofit projectors in if your gonna add HID's.

black_maxed95 · 07-09-2008, 04:25 PM

if you dont do projectors you are gonna realize you instead just wasted money. Thats why I run the stock ebay bulbs with my R34s

*maximized98* · 07-09-2008, 05:15 PM

I have the same setup. Use the 9006 ballasts. Cause you will be putting them on your low beams. I don't have projectors on mine, the pattern still sucks but the output is 10 times better. I don't even use my high beams at all. I got the 50 watt kit though

*AndrewR2442* · 07-09-2008, 06:23 PM

maximized98 do think you'll do projectors in the future?

why don't you do a retro tigersharkdude? I bet you'll want projectors in the near future.

I ask b/c i care.

Projectors > kit > 9005 > 9006

06 rx330 projectors

*Flava_24/7* · 07-09-2008, 06:38 PM

Ugh, here we go again.. HIDs in reflective housings... and the worse part of it is newbs always think thats upgrading to a better output when doing this. Tsk tsk.
The really sad thing is, most could really care less how crappy the output is as long as they get a colored output.
FYI, if the lows use a 9006 you will need a HID bulb using a 9006 base. Ballast shouldnt really matter. However most kits have there bulbs made to be a plug n play with there ballasts provided in the kits.

Crusher103 · 07-09-2008, 07:10 PM

just do a retro fit, no matter what HIDs u put in there the bulbs is going to be in the same position and using the same reflector to get the light to the ground, so ur really not going anywhere it will just make how bad ur beam pattern is more noticable

*maximized98* · 07-09-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewR2442

maximized98 do think you'll do projectors in the future?

why don't you do a retro tigersharkdude? I bet you'll want projectors in the near future.

I ask b/c i care.

Projectors > kit > 9005 > 9006

06 rx330 projectors

I doubt it, too much other important stuff I want to do to the max. Already spent 200 on the r34 then another 140 for the hids, thats plenty enough for me. I'm not that picky when it comes to lighting. Cannot see spending large amounts of money on stuff like that. Motor swaps are a different story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Flava_24/7* · 07-09-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by maximized98

I doubt it, too much other important stuff I want to do to the max. Already spent 200 on the r34 then another 140 for the hids, thats plenty enough for me. I'm not that picky when it comes to lighting. Cannot see spending large amounts of money on stuff like that. Motor swaps are a different story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your not that picky when it comes to lighting why did you even get HIDs?

*maximized98* · 07-09-2008, 07:59 PM

Cause I couldn't see!!!! I rode around with those stock bulbs for almost a year, finally got some hids and now I can see. I didn't get them for color, I got them for output power. They are fricken bright

modenaf1 · 07-09-2008, 08:03 PM

I am curious, what is wrong with putting HIDs in the r34 reflector housings? The light output has to be better than normal halogens in the same reflector housings right?

Crusher103 · 07-09-2008, 08:09 PM

the reason people keep saying get projectors is not just because of the much better output but U are blinding oncoming drivers on the road, the stock housings just throw the light everywhere they can, especially on the 95-96 with the fluted lenses

*maximase86* · 07-09-2008, 08:19 PM

I only have one car where the reflector was good enough to use aftermarket HID kits, and that was on my 97 Volvo, even while it put the light evenly on the ground with a nice cutoff, it did have hot spots and some minor glare. Every other car I've seen with aftermarket HID's sucked ass. Even my cefiros with a very well designed H4 cutoff sucked. Get projectors.

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*AndrewR2442* · 07-09-2008, 09:25 PM

if you think hid's in those r34 low beam slots have output power...... you would crap yourself if you ever rode in a car w/clear lensed projectors.

I went back to the r34 low beam while im redoing my retro . I ACTUALLY feel unsafe when driving w/stock r34 headlights even w/brighter 9005 bulbs.

parsons10217 · 07-10-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by maximized98

Already spent 200 on the r34 then another 140 for the hids, thats plenty enough for me.

^$140 for HIDS??? thats crazy. I spent 116 shipped from china for mine and mine are excelent. But i dont' understand why everyone is talking about 9005 and 9006 bulbs. and low and high beam bulbs. I don't know about you guys who retrofitted, but my stock set up has 1 bulb that does both low and high beam and my bulb was 9004. Anyways i ended up putting 8k's in and they work fantastic. I don't think retrofitting is really nessesary

modenaf1 · 07-10-2008, 12:08 PM

Just curious, if high intensity discharge is a bad idea in reflector housings, isn't that what Nissan did on the 2002 and 2003 Maxima?

kzoosho · 07-10-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by parsons10217

^$140 for HIDS??? thats crazy. I spent 116 shipped from china for mine and mine are excelent. But i dont' understand why everyone is talking about 9005 and 9006 bulbs. and low and high beam bulbs. I don't know about you guys who retrofitted, but my stock set up has 1 bulb that does both low and high beam and my bulb was 9004. Anyways i ended up putting 8k's in and they work fantastic. I don't think retrofitting is really nessesary

If you happened to read you will see this thread is about the r34's not the oem headlights. They use 9005 and 9006 bulbs. Please read before you post. And welcome to the org.

*Flava_24/7* · 07-10-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by parsons10217

^$140 for HIDS??? thats crazy. I spent 116 shipped from china for mine and mine are excelent. But i dont' understand why everyone is talking about 9005 and 9006 bulbs. and low and high beam bulbs. I don't know about you guys who retrofitted, but my stock set up has 1 bulb that does both low and high beam and my bulb was 9004. Anyways i ended up putting 8k's in and they work fantastic. I don't think retrofitting is really nessesary

The reason you dont know why we are mentioning 9005 & 9006's is because your NOT following the discussion. The OP has R34 headlights which use those bulbs. The OEM Maxima bulb is 9004, which is why the kit you are using is has a 9004 bulb base.
You dont think a retrofit is necessary because you dont know better and havent compared your beam pattern to that of a projector.

*Flava_24/7* · 07-10-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by modenaf1

Just curious, if high intensity discharge is a bad idea in reflector housings, isn't that what Nissan did on the 2002 and 2003 Maxima?

They use a sheild

**mtrai760** · 07-10-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by parsons10217

I don't think retrofitting is really nessesary

Why don't you ask any oncoming drivers what they think about your headlights?

I could put 5 10 million candlewatt lights on the front of my car and see fine too, doesn't mean I'm not pissing off anyone that has to be blinded by them, and causing a hazard on the road.

arrocha87 · 07-10-2008, 01:19 PM

i put a 8000k bixenon kit on my max and it did improve light output. i agree that projectors will give u better beam and output but i think what the rest of the people without projectors are trying to say that the HIDs did improve their lighting, even if its not as good as projectors. and by the way i wouldnt mind doing a retrofit i just dont have the skills necessary to do it, not yet anyways....

*Flava_24/7* · 07-10-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by arrocha87

i put a 8000k bixenon kit on my max and it did improve light output. i agree that projectors will give u better beam and output but i think what the rest of the people without projectors are trying to say that the HIDs did improve their lighting, even if its not as good as projectors. and by the way i wouldnt mind doing a retrofit i just dont have the skills necessary to do it, not yet anyways....

Yes, we all know that HIDs are brighter then OEM, doesnt take much to have a better output then the 9004 but the beam pattern in a reflective housing is horrible. Its scattered everywhere and blinding to everyone coming towards you. To me, brighter doesnt really mean better when the output is scattered everywhere.

Crusher103 · 07-10-2008, 01:40 PM

we should sticky a thread like this, why not to use HIDs in the stock housing, this is what it will look like to on coming drivers:

the stock 4th gen housing

these are Cefiro housings they are alittle better but they still have alot of glare

even during the day u can just see they are going to glare

*Flava_24/7* · 07-10-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusher103

we should sticky a thread like this, why not to use HIDs in the stock housing, this is what it will look like to on coming drivers:

the stock 4th gen housing

these are Cefiro housings they are alittle better but they still have alot of glare

even during the day u can just see they are going to glare

AGREED!
This topic comes up every week. A nice light sticky with explanations of do's and dont's with pics and etc. would be nice.
Links for different retro setups Org members have done would be nice and links to HID tech and etc could be added for newbies. Explanation of Kelvin adn different type of projectors listed with pics would also be cool.
Here is some more on aftermarket HID kits,..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw