miserov

I have been looking for a definitive answer as to whether I can simply replace the front motor mount on my '96 AT with one from a MT so I can put ES inserts into both, however I have not been able to find anything for the 4th gen, just the 5th gen which is located here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...8&postcount=21

Does anyone know if this will work? I would rather not order a front MT mount and ES insert just to find out that something doesn't line up properly.

pmohr

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Shnuld bolt up no problem, only diff is the electronics and internals for the AT mount.

miserov

Ok, thank. I wanted to make sure since the AT mount and the MT mount are different sizes.

f550maranello2

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hmm i might have to replace my front one as well... so i can just use a MT one even though im auto SE?

Kevlo911

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Yes. It will fit.

i30krab

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Forget about the harness plug going to the motor mount, this so called electronic adjustment does not do a damn thing and you won't get a cel if you just tape it to something.

f550maranello2

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^^^ werd u wont get a CEL... its a non detectable item by the ECU.....

TurTLe*

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intersting read i always tought mounts were complete diffrent and wont bolt up. i might get some ES now=P

the connector will never cause a CEL it isn't designed to. CEL only turn on if anything emissions related. a mount that firms/softens on either idle or driving will never affect emissions. and i think only the GLE have those.

andrei3333

those electronically controlled motor mounts came on SE's only 97-99 i think

how do they work ?

TurTLe*

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no its either GLE only or all. SE didn't really have anything SE only other then SE-L

it works like at idle i think it softens up to reduce vibrations and etc. so you dont feel the engine move and shake as much. and then when your moving it hardens up like a normal mount. if you notice if you ever rev you engine up with the hood open the engine doesn't move much at all IF you mount are 100% working.

i could have it other way around idle= hard but this made sense to me and thats how i understand items. so with the connector disconnected its going to be either hard or firm, which ever default is but i assume firm like a normal one.

andrei3333

NOPE its SE's that got the special motor mount
here is the link to the nissan site

http://www.nissannews.com/site_libra...ma/index.shtml

"For drivers seeking an extra level of style and performance, Maxima SE boasts a sport-tuned suspension with firmer shocks and struts, an electronically controlled liquid-filled front engine mount (on automatic transmission models only), 16-inch aluminum-alloy wheels and H-rated all-season tires, a body-color rear decklid spoiler, integrated fog lamps, body-color door handles, blackout window moldings, sport velour seat cloth, new leather-wrapped steering wheel and gear shift ****, and black-on-white analog gauges with red pointers for increased visibility and a sporty appearance."

Kevlo911

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No, my GLE has it as well. Only car that doesnt have the electronic mount is the auto base GXE. Every other automatic maxima should have it.

andrei3333

so why does the nissan site mention it only for the SE ?

Kevlo911

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Don't know, but it doesn't say other models DON'T have it....

killerVQ30DE

..bump bump for me.

I just replaced front,back and non-trans side engine mount ... My front and back mounts were electronic (Nissan Cefiro '94 auto VQ30), looking at the electric components on the mount I don't see how this can affect firmness at all as it just has a needle like bit that goes from the electrics into the mount.. Mechanic and I was thinking that it could be like a knock sensor type deal if the ECU detects the mounts have excessive pressure or twist it backs off the timing? I kind of doubt that it energizes the liquid in the mount to make it firmer

Will check the consult port tomorrow and see if any ghost codes.. I have no CEL's.

Is the consensus that we can just throw out the electric bit from old mount or should we be leaving them connected??

chillin014

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i gutted my auto mount before the fill and there was NO liquid in it.

ThurzNite

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All trickery... like those corvettes with variable stiffness settings.
Jae

KRRZ350

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According to the fsm that's how it works, stiffens it up under driving via electronics, whether it energizes the liquid I don't know, but yes, it is non detectable (I think f550 was the one that owned me on that in a different thread ) according to the fsm on us-spec cars, so no need to worry about connecting anything etc.

killerVQ30DE

Thanks

maxprivate

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Could not find my answer by searching so Im bumpin this old thread.

For you guys that used the MT mounts in place of the mounts with the sensor for Autos Did anyone get any CEL's for not replacing it with a mount with the sensor?

I dont want to spend the extra money on these so called electronic mounts if I dont need too. I can get all 4 mounts on ebay for 200 bucks, no sensors on any of them.

Joey SR

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this has been covered in the thread. you will not get a cel light. I changed my front auto to a manual mount and pressed in some es bushing. Do not go the ebay route as it will only cause you to replace again. check out red lion racing in the classifieds.

maxprivate

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yea no Ebays, just found some bad info on them. Does anyone know if the 97 SE mounts are steel or Aluminum? Red Lion needs to know which before purchasing.

JSutter

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Front and rear mounts are steel. Timming cover and trans mounts are aluminum.

maxprivate

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So the 4 mounts for the engine are steel correct? Wouldn't make sense to be a softer metal now that I think of it.

nitromax

there are two steel mounts, that are the (1) front & (1)rear mounts and two aluminum mounts, that are the timing cover (r/front or passenger side ) and the transmission mount (l/front or driver side). these make your total of four mounts that mount the engine (& trans) to the car. so not all four are steel.

maxprivate

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Cool, thanks for clearing that up. Im looking to get the Red Lion mounts but he needs to know which we need aluminum or steel, Im thinking thats something he should know depending on which we need front or rear etc.

JSutter

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Brain fart. The timing cover mount, at least on mine, is both.

maxprivate

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One is aluminum and one is steel you mean?

JSutter

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I thought my timing cover enging mount was all aluminum. I just realized that it has multiple parts, some steel and some aluminum.

Maxima_Joe

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Usually the passenger mount is aluminum on 95-97 and steel on 98-99.

maxprivate

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Are we talking about the front pass or rear pass mount?

I need a list on what mounts are what exactly. If you don't mind. I'm a 97 SE

Maxima_Joe

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On the Maxima we identify the mounts on how the engines sitting in the bay.

So the passenger mount is the one on the timing cover.
Usually this one is aluminum on 95-97 and steel on 98-99.

The front is the one by the radiator.
The rear is the one by the firewall.
Both of these are steel.

The trans mount is the one on the actual trans and obviously on the drivers side.
This one is always aluminum for manuals.
Usually the auto 95-97 is aluminum and auto 98-99 is steel.

maxprivate

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Thanks for clearing that up.