Question on Coil Packs
#1
Question on Coil Packs
Ok, I have 211,000 miles my 95 SE. I am looking to replace the spark plugs (about 100k old, good time to change??) But I would also like to see if I need to change the coil packs. They are original, do these normally just need to be changed? Also, I followed the advice on the stickies and don't understand the test results. When I do the first part I get a value of 1 (this actually represents infinite - 0 would indicate a short or continual loop), is this correct? Also, when I do the second test, I get about 500 ohms, not the 1.3-1.7 Mohms... Any thoughts out there? Thanks!
"To test:
Turn on your ohmmeter and place the positive wire on the 1st prong in the electrical plug of the coil pack. The negative wire should be touching the middle prong. Verification of the ohmmeter at this time should say "0" aka infinite... if it's anything else, the pack should be changed. Next test: reverse the wires... positive on the middle prong and negative on the 1st prong.... on a new coil pack, it should give a value of approximately 1.3-1.7 mega ohms. If any of the readings are off, replace the coil pack."
"To test:
Turn on your ohmmeter and place the positive wire on the 1st prong in the electrical plug of the coil pack. The negative wire should be touching the middle prong. Verification of the ohmmeter at this time should say "0" aka infinite... if it's anything else, the pack should be changed. Next test: reverse the wires... positive on the middle prong and negative on the 1st prong.... on a new coil pack, it should give a value of approximately 1.3-1.7 mega ohms. If any of the readings are off, replace the coil pack."
#4
how to change coil packs
I have a '99 Maxima and the local repair shop said that cylinder #3 is missing because of bad coil packs.
1) Where can I get instructions on how to replace them?
2) How can I get in touch w/ Mike S (I think) from Austin who sells coil packs at a discount?
Thanks.
-Don
1) Where can I get instructions on how to replace them?
2) How can I get in touch w/ Mike S (I think) from Austin who sells coil packs at a discount?
Thanks.
-Don
#5
Originally Posted by longhorn89
I have a '99 Maxima and the local repair shop said that cylinder #3 is missing because of bad coil packs.
1) Where can I get instructions on how to replace them?
2) How can I get in touch w/ Mike S (I think) from Austin who sells coil packs at a discount?
Thanks.
-Don
1) Where can I get instructions on how to replace them?
2) How can I get in touch w/ Mike S (I think) from Austin who sells coil packs at a discount?
Thanks.
-Don
If you want to save some money on coil packs, take a chance on some used ones. I bought some used packs from a 97 model and stuck then in for $80. Car runs like new. 99 Coil packs suck!! Thats all there is
#7
I have a 99 5 speed, when I floor my car and my rpm's get to 4500 my car start cutting out making a popping noise in the engine, It doesnt do it all the time, just most of the time. Would that be associated with plugs or coils? I have cleaned the MAF and TB, and put 93 octane gas in there but it still does it. Any advice would be much appreciated.
#8
Originally Posted by PLUMMAXSE
Don,
If you want to save some money on coil packs, take a chance on some used ones. I bought some used packs from a 97 model and stuck then in for $80. Car runs like new. 99 Coil packs suck!! Thats all there is
If you want to save some money on coil packs, take a chance on some used ones. I bought some used packs from a 97 model and stuck then in for $80. Car runs like new. 99 Coil packs suck!! Thats all there is
#9
Originally Posted by Scottlucasi19
I have a 99 5 speed, when I floor my car and my rpm's get to 4500 my car start cutting out making a popping noise in the engine, It doesnt do it all the time, just most of the time. Would that be associated with plugs or coils? I have cleaned the MAF and TB, and put 93 octane gas in there but it still does it. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Your problem very well could be coil packs. The greatest load is put on the engine when you floor it. The only way to know is to swap or just replace your coilpacks. That is if you haven't already done that.
#10
The difference is the earlier production models had the Mitsubishi Coils(part#22448-31U11) which were 12/94 to 5/95. 5/95 and up are the Hanshin Coils(part#22448-31U01). The mitsubishi coils aren't availible from Nissan anymore they have all superceded to the Hanshin coils. But I have found out that the NAPA ECHLIN line part# IC209 is the Mitsubishi coil and it even has the nissan stamp and part# right on it. The numbers are all in reference to the right bank (cyl.1,3,5).
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Originally Posted by PAMudslinger
But I have found out that the NAPA ECHLIN line part# IC209 is the Mitsubishi coil and it even has the nissan stamp and part# right on it. The numbers are all in reference to the right bank (cyl.1,3,5).
#15
Hey I have three rear coils if anyone wants them. I see a couple of you want to buy some new ones. I got them from someone for the 00vi swap but I believe they gave me regular 4th gen coils.
#'s are:
22448-31uo
22448-31u11
22448-31uo1
Let me know if anyone wants them. They are double bolts so I figured them all to be 4th gen coils. I'll give pics if you want them too.
#'s are:
22448-31uo
22448-31u11
22448-31uo1
Let me know if anyone wants them. They are double bolts so I figured them all to be 4th gen coils. I'll give pics if you want them too.
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Originally Posted by dshadow35
Does anyone have a map of the coils on the 99 engine. I am getting a misfire on cylinder 4. I am not sure exactly where it is. Can anyone help. Thanks.
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no problemo. one note on the coil job -- it can be a bit tricky the first time you try to disconnect them from the wiring harness. the trick is to take a small slotted screwdriver and push slightly down and back at the same time on the release tab. the tab should go all the way back and "click" into the "open" position, thereby releasing the connector. make sense??
#20
Hi all - while on the subject let me hop on the bandwagon.
Lately my car shakes/vibrates under heavy acceleration - it feels like i have unbalanced tires, so not very hard but noticeable.
it also shakes quite noticeably at 700-950 RPM. A few days ago the SES was solid on, then started randomly blinking. I got no fault code - today at neutral it did it again while i was revving and holding the gas... then I reset the ECU and the SES doesn't come on again but the car still shakes and vibrates as before.
Are my coils dead? And if only one is dead - can i just replace one, or should I replace all of them?
Thanks!
Lately my car shakes/vibrates under heavy acceleration - it feels like i have unbalanced tires, so not very hard but noticeable.
it also shakes quite noticeably at 700-950 RPM. A few days ago the SES was solid on, then started randomly blinking. I got no fault code - today at neutral it did it again while i was revving and holding the gas... then I reset the ECU and the SES doesn't come on again but the car still shakes and vibrates as before.
Are my coils dead? And if only one is dead - can i just replace one, or should I replace all of them?
Thanks!
#21
Originally Posted by ComradeJew
Hi all - while on the subject let me hop on the bandwagon.
Lately my car shakes/vibrates under heavy acceleration - it feels like i have unbalanced tires, so not very hard but noticeable.
it also shakes quite noticeably at 700-950 RPM. A few days ago the SES was solid on, then started randomly blinking. I got no fault code - today at neutral it did it again while i was revving and holding the gas... then I reset the ECU and the SES doesn't come on again but the car still shakes and vibrates as before.
Are my coils dead? And if only one is dead - can i just replace one, or should I replace all of them?
Thanks!
Lately my car shakes/vibrates under heavy acceleration - it feels like i have unbalanced tires, so not very hard but noticeable.
it also shakes quite noticeably at 700-950 RPM. A few days ago the SES was solid on, then started randomly blinking. I got no fault code - today at neutral it did it again while i was revving and holding the gas... then I reset the ECU and the SES doesn't come on again but the car still shakes and vibrates as before.
Are my coils dead? And if only one is dead - can i just replace one, or should I replace all of them?
Thanks!
#23
Originally Posted by ComradeJew
What's a good cheap place to get good coils?
Just ordered one from WORLDPARTSEXPRESS.COM
They carry Hanshin and Mitsu for under $70 + shipping
Expecting delivery on the 15th
I also read on a few threads about DaveB, I think his info is
on the FAQ page.
#27
Originally Posted by ComradeJew
So - Hanshin or Mitsu? Any suggestions between the two? I heard I need to stay away from one... dont know which one though haha
My first 99 origin Hanshin went bad at 82k.
I still did not find out if there is a difference between both designs...I would really like to know if they can be mixed and matched as I plan to replace my coils one by one as they go bad.
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I have a mix in my '99. 4 original hanshin and 2 mitsu that the previous owner had replaced. it runs fine, no codes. 93k miles. i just don't like the hanshin design. mitsu seems better put together, etc.
btw - previous owner paid $270 for one coil replacement, and $230 for the other. ripoff nissan dealers.
btw - previous owner paid $270 for one coil replacement, and $230 for the other. ripoff nissan dealers.
#30
Originally Posted by PLUMMAXSE
Your problem very well could be coil packs. The greatest load is put on the engine when you floor it. The only way to know is to swap or just replace your coilpacks. That is if you haven't already done that.
#31
Looking for some help
My 95 Maxima, 196,000 miles, has what I call a misfire, only after it has warmed up. Per the posts here, I have:
Replaced the plugs,
Replaced the PCV valve,
Replaced the Air Filter,
Replaced the Fuel Filter,
Cleaned the IAC valve,
Cleaned the Throttle Body.
It still has a misfire to it that seems to get worse as the car gets to normal operating temperature. If you're sitting at a red light, with it in drive, it will shake and shutter or stumble, rpm's dropping about 200 rpm then back and you can smell unburned gas. From all of the above, it sounds like it could be a coil pack or a fuel injector. Anyone have a any ideas on the best way to diagnose this? I did remove 3 of the packs today and used my meter on it but didn't get the numbers that had been posted in another thread on either of them.
If you're in the Atlanta area, or even in the Gwinnett Area, contact me if you want to.
Replaced the plugs,
Replaced the PCV valve,
Replaced the Air Filter,
Replaced the Fuel Filter,
Cleaned the IAC valve,
Cleaned the Throttle Body.
It still has a misfire to it that seems to get worse as the car gets to normal operating temperature. If you're sitting at a red light, with it in drive, it will shake and shutter or stumble, rpm's dropping about 200 rpm then back and you can smell unburned gas. From all of the above, it sounds like it could be a coil pack or a fuel injector. Anyone have a any ideas on the best way to diagnose this? I did remove 3 of the packs today and used my meter on it but didn't get the numbers that had been posted in another thread on either of them.
If you're in the Atlanta area, or even in the Gwinnett Area, contact me if you want to.
#32
That sounds like the problem that I had which turned out to be 1 bad coilpack. It would only fail when hot. I just removed each coilpack at a time until I found the one that didn't affect the engine idle. That was the one!!
#34
WoW and Thanks
All I can say is WoW and Thanks! Just finished diagnosing the misfiring and stuttering per the posts here and narrowed it down to the middle rear coil pack. Drove up to the parts store, got the new one, put it in and now it's running like it's supposed to. Of course, all the things I did to it before this made a huge difference now that the coil pack is operating too. I knew it would because when it was cold it would run like it was in a race, but as soon as it warmed up, it would misfire and stumble all over itself.
So I guess I will be prepared to replace them all over the next few weeks/months and at least know what the symptoms are over the next 5 packs.
Thanks again!
And by the way, maybe I can't follow the Haynes manual for ohm testing these things or maybe the ohm testing just doesn't work, but the one I pulled ohms out like the rest of them and I can't get it or any of the others to work the way Haynes says they should. Mine also shows pin 1 for what looks like the front packs, but not the rear packs.
So I guess I will be prepared to replace them all over the next few weeks/months and at least know what the symptoms are over the next 5 packs.
Thanks again!
And by the way, maybe I can't follow the Haynes manual for ohm testing these things or maybe the ohm testing just doesn't work, but the one I pulled ohms out like the rest of them and I can't get it or any of the others to work the way Haynes says they should. Mine also shows pin 1 for what looks like the front packs, but not the rear packs.
#35
Originally Posted by PLUMMAXSE
Your problem very well could be coil packs. The greatest load is put on the engine when you floor it. The only way to know is to swap or just replace your coilpacks. That is if you haven't already done that.
#37
Originally Posted by ComradeJew
Oooh btw - is it a ***** do this if i have a strut bar?
btw, i have FOR SALE 3 coils off my '95 that are still in good working condition. pics here: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=505598
#38
Holy smokes... 211K out of the original coil packs. I started getting a cascade failure of my packs on my '99 at 92K. I ended up replacing all six because I didn't want to have to keep dealing with it, and I knew it was such a big problem for my model year after reading the boards.
#40
Originally Posted by Maximeyez
Check out PEPBOYZ. They have them for $59 a pop. I just replaced one last week.
Here's mine: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=530042
BTW, I looked in the FSM for the correct resistance/ohm and all it says is 0=bad coil, and anything else is good.
Jae
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