MEVI or '00vi?
06-12-2006, 04:05 AM
#1
MEVI or '00vi?
Hey guys, I am thinking about getting one of those, and wanted to ask your opinions on which one to get. Whats the benefit of those and one on top of another. Thank you. Any info is appreceated.
P.S.Don't know if I am going SC or not later if that helps.
P.S.Don't know if I am going SC or not later if that helps.
06-12-2006, 04:45 AM
#3
00VI is cheaper and makes more power at all RPMs;
MEVI is much less of a potential headache, especially with the install.
The 00VI takes more work, some of it custom, and they have occasionally been known to develop cracks (because they're plastic). MEVI just bolts up and wires up, and you're done.
Supercharging would exaggerate the power difference, i.e. the 00VI would be even better if you were supercharged.
MEVI is much less of a potential headache, especially with the install.
The 00VI takes more work, some of it custom, and they have occasionally been known to develop cracks (because they're plastic). MEVI just bolts up and wires up, and you're done.
Supercharging would exaggerate the power difference, i.e. the 00VI would be even better if you were supercharged.
06-12-2006, 10:35 AM
#5
Originally Posted by speed racer
^^+1. The 00VI is great for low, mid, and top end. Where as the MEVI takes power from the Lower Band and shift it to the top end.
06-12-2006, 12:16 PM
#8
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what i've always wondered is is it easier to simply swap in a vq30dek rather than trying to retrofit the 00vi on the vq30de? i don't have much mechanical experience but if the dek bolted up easily wouldn't this be a better path?
06-12-2006, 01:46 PM
#9
Originally Posted by ethnic6
I'm guessing u need to have a full exhaust system put in including headers,ypipe, and catback to get the full potential of an oovi rite?
Originally Posted by gx2nds4
what i've always wondered is is it easier to simply swap in a vq30dek rather than trying to retrofit the 00vi on the vq30de? i don't have much mechanical experience but if the dek bolted up easily wouldn't this be a better path?
06-15-2006, 10:24 AM
#10
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Are you guys finding these 00vi's off of wrecked vq30de-k's or can you actually order the intake from a nissan dealership or something?
06-16-2006, 10:06 AM
#12
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man it sucks i have called all the import junkyards around me here in minnesota. And they either have full motors ( which i don't need, unless someoen wanted to go in with me that needed the lower end stuff) or they just don't have any.
06-26-2006, 07:11 PM
#14
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Approx total cost to put in an '00vi at a shop?
06-26-2006, 09:15 PM
#16
i have an 00vi for sale if you're interested. pm me.http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=476727
06-26-2006, 10:46 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by konak85
take note that the mevi is useless without an extended rev limit ecu.
so my JDM installed MEVI is next to useless, dang I'll have to complain to Japan.
06-26-2006, 10:52 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by killerVQ30DE
so my JDM installed MEVI is next to useless, dang I'll have to complain to Japan.anyways for a few clams more you can get a 3.5 and drop that bad boy in assuming you do your own labor...
much less hassle than putting in an 00vi...(or so I've heard)
06-27-2006, 12:29 AM
#19
Originally Posted by Dexter
i think he meant with a Maxima...
anyways for a few clams more you can get a 3.5 and drop that bad boy in assuming you do your own labor...
much less hassle than putting in an 00vi...(or so I've heard)
anyways for a few clams more you can get a 3.5 and drop that bad boy in assuming you do your own labor...
much less hassle than putting in an 00vi...(or so I've heard)
Could be a bunch of crap.
06-27-2006, 04:12 AM
#20
Installing the 00Vi is not hard at all. As long as you tag what hoses are what and do a little research you can install this in the weekend. It took my only 20 hours over 3 days to install this bymyself. I only had to go to the auto store once.
06-27-2006, 04:19 AM
#21
Originally Posted by konak85
take note that the mevi is useless without an extended rev limit ecu.
06-27-2006, 06:01 AM
#22
^^ Exactly. It's not that the MEVI doesn't do anything for you. It will make better top-end power than stock whether you have an extended rev limit or not. It just also happens to make a little less power in the midrange, so that's why people seem to think their cars aren't any faster "overall".
06-27-2006, 06:10 AM
#23
Originally Posted by Apparition
funny story actually my friend had an 00vi crack on him after he got it installed which he said was a "complete pain in the ***." Haven't heard much but supposedly he swapped in a 3.5 and said it wasn't that bad "not like that damn 00vi." lmao, I think he's still waiting on some stuff though, to be fabricated and for parts I'm assuming..
Could be a bunch of crap.
Could be a bunch of crap.
As for whether the 00VI swap is more of a PITA than the 3.5 swap... I still don't see how that's possible, even if you have to track down a crack in the IM. The 00VI swap takes simple wiring and some minor custom work for the TB and IACV. The 3.5 swap takes all that, PLUS either timing chain and cam stuff (if you use the 3.0 ECU) or a LOT more wiring (if you use the 3.5 ECU).
06-27-2006, 06:13 AM
#24
Originally Posted by d00df00d
As for whether the 00VI swap is more of a PITA than the 3.5 swap... I still don't see how that's possible, even if you have to track down a crack in the IM. The 00VI swap takes simple wiring and some minor custom work for the TB and IACV. The 3.5 swap takes all that, PLUS either timing chain and cam stuff (if you use the 3.0 ECU) or a LOT more wiring (if you use the 3.5 ECU).
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06-27-2006, 07:35 AM
#26
Originally Posted by killerVQ30DE
so my JDM installed MEVI is next to useless, dang I'll have to complain to Japan.
06-27-2006, 09:45 AM
#27
Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
there had been talk of the JDM A32's with MEVI having a different tune on their ecu's, so the loss in the midrange isn't as pronounced.
Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
All konak was saying is that without an ecu, Maximas with just MEVI installed haven't been any faster in the quarter mile
06-27-2006, 10:25 AM
#29
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
This theory still holds no water due to lack of proof (data)
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Am I kidding? The last time I read the MEVI faqs (which was a long **** time ago), it stated what I had stated. I had also seen that statement reguarding a non-ecu upgraded MEVI equipped car before as well, citing that with the MEVI advantages and disadvantes, the power only shifts to a different part of the rpm range, and doesn't necessarily make the car faster in the quarter mile. (The only person to prove this theory wrong on the dyno, and not yet at a track, is Zack - and then there is people who believe it to be a fluke ~to generate as much hp as he had without an ecu upgrade~)
AGAIN, from what I've read on this website, and NOT speaking from personal experience, a MEVI equipped, non ecu upgraded VQ30 will make more power, but because of the loss in the midrange, overall acceleration remains almost the same.
I'm going to go read the MEVI faqs to try and find what I read before.
Edit...eh...unfortunately I can't search as well as I would like to in order to find the thread that I got my info from. Did DaveB run .3 seconds faster and 3 mph higher with or without an ecu upgrade? In that thread, it never stated his current mods.
06-27-2006, 11:44 AM
#32
Originally Posted by i30ds
Anybody that says the mevi does absolutely nothing for you with out the extended redline has never driven in a Maxima/I30 with one installed... the difference is night and day.
06-27-2006, 11:58 AM
#33
Exactly... it feels like it dies. I have a friend who has a 96 with every single mod I have except the mevi and I shutter when I drive it and feel that loss. Funny thing is that the fool nearly pisses his pants when he drives mine.
06-27-2006, 01:31 PM
#38
I still don't understand how anyone can argue with a relatively easy mod that:
1. Turns your roller-coaster power curve into a smooth, unrelenting build-up to a screaming top end
2. Makes power in a section of the power band where most intake and exhaust mods are doing their best work, thus increasing the benefit of those mods
3. GREATLY increases your total power potential
Sounds like a pretty good deal for ~$400 and no custom work.
1. Turns your roller-coaster power curve into a smooth, unrelenting build-up to a screaming top end
2. Makes power in a section of the power band where most intake and exhaust mods are doing their best work, thus increasing the benefit of those mods
3. GREATLY increases your total power potential
Sounds like a pretty good deal for ~$400 and no custom work.
06-27-2006, 03:16 PM
#39
but the 00vi makes more power than the MEVI even in upper end, right?
i'm just gonna use just the upper manifold but i havent decided if i want to buy the valve cover and coilpacks and stuff from the 5th gen.
i'm just gonna use just the upper manifold but i havent decided if i want to buy the valve cover and coilpacks and stuff from the 5th gen.