Big Brake Kit
05-03-2006, 05:58 AM
#2
Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Im thinking about doing the big brake upgrade on our cars. The only thing is i dont know what year 300ZX calipers, orgers use. Does anyone on here know?
For the true BBK kit, you need to use the 30mm calipers.
The "30mm Aluminum" calipers were used on 1990 Twin-turbos and ALL 1991-1992.5 300ZX's (both turbo and non-turbo alike). They used a 280mm x 30mm rotor
Have you made sure that your wheels are going to clear? Thats a common issue when doing the BBK.
05-03-2006, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
For the true BBK kit, you need to use the 30mm calipers.
http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm
Have you made sure that your wheels are going to clear? Thats a common issue when doing the BBK.
http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm
Have you made sure that your wheels are going to clear? Thats a common issue when doing the BBK.
05-03-2006, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Are 30mm the ones that matt blehm sells?
Yes, his kit is based around the 30mm calipers. I have the 26mm and he told me he didnt think they would work since he designed his kit to use the 30mm calipers.
05-03-2006, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Yes, his kit is based around the 30mm calipers. I have the 26mm and he told me he didnt think they would work since he designed his kit to use the 30mm calipers.
05-03-2006, 06:24 AM
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Im sort of in the same situation i want to upgrade my breaks. I was thinking of getting one of the BBK sets the Frankencar.com sells that uses the 13" x 1.25" rotor (i believe this is bigger than the 300zx one) together with the wildwood 4-piston calliper. My problem isnt wheel clearance, i plan on gettin a set of G35 coupe wheels, the problem is come winter i dont want to be driving around in the ice with Z or W rated tires on and i dont want to buy another set of wheels to put put all seasons on to use in the winter just so it clears my BBK. Should i just go with the Brembo 2-piston caliper/slotted rotor upgrade so i can keep my factory wheels for the winter or is there no comparison when it comes to the BBK's?
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05-03-2006, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
Im sort of in the same situation i want to upgrade my breaks. I was thinking of getting one of the BBK sets the Frankencar.com sells that uses the 13" x 1.25" rotor (i believe this is bigger than the 300zx one) together with the wildwood 4-piston calliper. My problem isnt wheel clearance, i plan on gettin a set of G35 coupe wheels, the problem is come winter i dont want to be driving around in the ice with Z or W rated tires on and i dont want to buy another set of wheels to put put all seasons on to use in the winter just so it clears my BBK. Should i just go with the Brembo 2-piston caliper/slotted rotor upgrade so i can keep my factory wheels for the winter or is there no comparison when it comes to the BBK's?
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Why dont you just get winter tires???
05-03-2006, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
Im sort of in the same situation i want to upgrade my breaks. I was thinking of getting one of the BBK sets the Frankencar.com sells that uses the 13" x 1.25" rotor (i believe this is bigger than the 300zx one) together with the wildwood 4-piston calliper. My problem isnt wheel clearance, i plan on gettin a set of G35 coupe wheels, the problem is come winter i dont want to be driving around in the ice with Z or W rated tires on and i dont want to buy another set of wheels to put put all seasons on to use in the winter just so it clears my BBK. Should i just go with the Brembo 2-piston caliper/slotted rotor upgrade so i can keep my factory wheels for the winter or is there no comparison when it comes to the BBK's?
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I dont think the OEM wheels will clear any type of BBK setup.
Just curious, why go with the Wilwood setup when you can do the Blehmco or Cobra setup for cheaper?
The Z32 calipers are 4 piston as well.
05-03-2006, 06:59 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Yes, a 13in rotor is larger then the 300z rotor, but the Blehmco kit doesnt use the 300z rotor. It uses the 2004 maxima rotor (12.6"), or you can go with Jeff92se setup and use 13in cobra rotors.
I dont think the OEM wheels will clear any type of BBK setup.
Just curious, why go with the Wilwood setup when you can do the Blehmco or Cobra setup for cheaper?
The Z32 calipers are 4 piston as well.
I dont think the OEM wheels will clear any type of BBK setup.
Just curious, why go with the Wilwood setup when you can do the Blehmco or Cobra setup for cheaper?
The Z32 calipers are 4 piston as well.
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05-03-2006, 07:06 AM
#13
Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Why dont you just get winter tires???
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05-03-2006, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Hey man thanks for all of your help. How is your brake kit working? Did you get it to work w/ the 26mm?
Im using the 26mm aluminum calipers with the Z32 rotors. The rotors had to be milled down a bit. Overall the rotor is not larger then the Maxima rotor, its actually a tad bit smaller since they had to be milled down but they are much thicker.
Its been doing fine, the stopping power is better since Im using the Z32 calipers but its not as great as a true BBK.
05-03-2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
Because they wont ride as well durring the summer and at the track, plus do you realize how big of a biatch it woudl be to change the tires out every winter.
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Yes they wont ride well in the summer. Use the tires its coming with for the summer. Then when winter comes switch out the summer tires for winter ones. And yes i do know how simple it is to switch them out, i work at a dealership and they only charge about $40.00 to switch out tires for you...
05-03-2006, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Yes they wont ride well in the summer. Use the tires its coming with for the summer. Then when winter comes switch out the summer tires for winter ones. And yes i do know how simple it is to switch them out, i work at a dealership and they only charge about $40.00 to switch out tires for you...
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05-03-2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Does anyone here know what kind of pads im gonna have to buy when I do the MattBlehm BBK???
Uh, the Blehmco kit uses Z32 calipers, so you use Z32 brake pads.
What brand you get is up to you.
05-03-2006, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
Flava_24/7 can you use aftermaket maxiama that come slotted with the blehmco kit if the rotors are the same size?
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Yup, I lot of members were purchasing 04 rotors from the G/B and then just buying the relocation brackets and ss lines from Blehmco.
http://forums.maxima.org/oldthread.php?t=396095
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05-03-2006, 10:32 AM
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Thats awsome. Then after i get the wheels its on to the Z32 rotors with some RTP slotted rotors. Man im getting excited.
Ive got a couple more questions if you can help me or point me in the right dirrection. Whats the advantages of slotted vs dimpeled vs cross drilled and all the combinations of any of them together? Are they the same in stopping power? Whats this I hear about cross drilled rotors cracking? Thanks for the help.
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Ive got a couple more questions if you can help me or point me in the right dirrection. Whats the advantages of slotted vs dimpeled vs cross drilled and all the combinations of any of them together? Are they the same in stopping power? Whats this I hear about cross drilled rotors cracking? Thanks for the help.
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05-03-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
Thats awsome. Then after i get the wheels its on to the Z32 rotors with some RTP slotted rotors. Man im getting excited.
Ive got a couple more questions if you can help me or point me in the right dirrection. Whats the advantages of slotted vs dimpeled vs cross drilled and all the combinations of any of them together? Are they the same in stopping power? Whats this I hear about cross drilled rotors cracking? Thanks for the help.
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Ive got a couple more questions if you can help me or point me in the right dirrection. Whats the advantages of slotted vs dimpeled vs cross drilled and all the combinations of any of them together? Are they the same in stopping power? Whats this I hear about cross drilled rotors cracking? Thanks for the help.
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For everyday driving, there are no real gains from either of the options listed.
In autocrossing where braking is real intense, drilled/ slotted rotors help disapate heat.
For everday driving, its just for looks.
FYI, if you simply do the 300zx swap, you will ned to have therotors milled down about 4mm and you will need conversin brake lines, and will also need to grind down th edge ofthe control arm to keep the rotor from rubbing it since they are quite thicker then the maxima rotors.
05-03-2006, 11:04 AM
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FYI, if you simply do the 300zx swap, you will ned to have therotors milled down about 4mm and you will need conversin brake lines, and will also need to grind down th edge ofthe control arm to keep the rotor from rubbing it since they are quite thicker then the maxima rotors.[/QUOTE]
So if im doing the BBK and get 04 Maxima rotors they have to be cut in order to fit?
So if im doing the BBK and get 04 Maxima rotors they have to be cut in order to fit?
05-03-2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
FYI, if you simply do the 300zx swap, you will ned to have therotors milled down about 4mm and you will need conversin brake lines, and will also need to grind down th edge ofthe control arm to keep the rotor from rubbing it since they are quite thicker then the maxima rotors.
So if im doing the BBK and get 04 Maxima rotors they have to be cut in order to fit?[/QUOTE]
Nope, that is why you use the relocation bracket. It relocates the caliper outward to meet the rotor.
When doing the 300z swap, the caliper mounts in the OEM positon so the rotor needs to be milled down a bit or it will rub the inside of the caliper.
05-03-2006, 12:51 PM
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why not go with the Cobra rotors?
anyways...good luck on your new bbk kit you are thinking about getting. these are totally worth it!
just make sure you have everything you need before the install and that you know exactly what to do. i had a few problems here and there but eventually finished it all.
anyways...good luck on your new bbk kit you are thinking about getting. these are totally worth it!
just make sure you have everything you need before the install and that you know exactly what to do. i had a few problems here and there but eventually finished it all.
05-03-2006, 12:55 PM
#28
yeah just dont forget about your wheel clearing.
i thought mine would but now i gotta shell out an extra hundred bucks for wheel spacers (not counting another hundred for the rear)
bbk's get expensive, but at least you can kinda piece them together over time.
i think im just gonna go with the blank faced rotors since they are so much cheaper and probably work well enough for me.
i thought mine would but now i gotta shell out an extra hundred bucks for wheel spacers (not counting another hundred for the rear)
bbk's get expensive, but at least you can kinda piece them together over time.
i think im just gonna go with the blank faced rotors since they are so much cheaper and probably work well enough for me.
05-03-2006, 12:56 PM
#29
Originally Posted by Maximus_95
why not go with the Cobra rotors?
anyways...good luck on your new bbk kit you are thinking about getting. these are totally worth it!
just make sure you have everything you need before the install and that you know exactly what to do. i had a few problems here and there but eventually finished it all.
anyways...good luck on your new bbk kit you are thinking about getting. these are totally worth it!
just make sure you have everything you need before the install and that you know exactly what to do. i had a few problems here and there but eventually finished it all.
05-03-2006, 02:08 PM
#31
Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
I mentioned them in post#11
i meant, i never explored it as an option but if they make a difference i can do the right thing the first t ime instead of getting 04 maxima rotors
05-03-2006, 02:53 PM
#32
Originally Posted by chillin014
yeah i saw that but that didnt answer my questions about cost and where a good place is to get them, and whether they are zinc plated.
i meant, i never explored it as an option but if they make a difference i can do the right thing the first t ime instead of getting 04 maxima rotors
i meant, i never explored it as an option but if they make a difference i can do the right thing the first t ime instead of getting 04 maxima rotors
It all depends on where you get them, there a bit bigger so i would imagine they would cost a bit more but you should be able to get them in the zinc coating.
Also, if you go with the Cobra rotors you have to get the hubcentric rings for them as well.
05-03-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
would that effect what wheel spacers i get? im about to buy some i want to make sure im getting the right ones
It will not affect them. The rings fill the space between the rotor and hub.
05-03-2006, 05:06 PM
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man o man I have so many questions..
I already have SS lines on my stock setup..so do I have to ditch those?
Also, where can I find Cobra rotors and does Jeff92Se have a site or should I just PM him?
I already have SS lines on my stock setup..so do I have to ditch those?
Also, where can I find Cobra rotors and does Jeff92Se have a site or should I just PM him?
05-04-2006, 05:25 AM
#37
Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
SS lines on your stock setup i believe they wont work with the BBK. The cobra rotors you can get from anywhere. Your local parts store of Ford dealership...
05-04-2006, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
on a side note have you heard of SP Performance rotors? Whats your opinion or others opinions?
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05-04-2006, 02:39 PM
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Does anyone here have the mattblehm bbk, w/02 maxima 17's? I have 18's during the spring/summer/fall but come winter i put on my 02 maxima se wheels. I wanted to find out now if im gonna have any probelms fitting those wheels on with the BBK. Thanks!
05-05-2006, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
Does anyone here have the mattblehm bbk, w/02 maxima 17's? I have 18's during the spring/summer/fall but come winter i put on my 02 maxima se wheels. I wanted to find out now if im gonna have any probelms fitting those wheels on with the BBK. Thanks!
http://www.blehmco.com/300ZX_brakes.htm
3rd or 4th paragraph down.
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