my 96 max has no spark
11-21-2005, 08:25 PM
#4
Originally Posted by njmodi
Any CEL codes?
Sounds like bad crankshaft position sensor (one of the two)..
Sounds like bad crankshaft position sensor (one of the two)..
11-21-2005, 08:27 PM
#5
Originally Posted by nismology
No. Even if those are bad there should be spark. It'll just be erratic. Absolutely NO spark points to a bigger issue.
11-21-2005, 08:32 PM
#8
P0325 = 0304 = bad knock sensor
P1135 = ?
P0105 = 0803 = absolute pressure sensor
P0332 = 0807 = Related to EVAP system
P1445 = 1008 = Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Volume Control Solenoid Valve
P1105 = 1302 = MAP/BARO SW Solenoid/Valve
P1135 = ?
P0105 = 0803 = absolute pressure sensor
P0332 = 0807 = Related to EVAP system
P1445 = 1008 = Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Volume Control Solenoid Valve
P1105 = 1302 = MAP/BARO SW Solenoid/Valve
11-21-2005, 08:33 PM
#9
Originally Posted by njmodi
P0325 = 0304 = bad knock sensor
P1135 = ?
P0105 = 0803 = absolute pressure sensor
P0332 = 0807 = Related to EVAP system
P1445 = 1008 = Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Volume Control Solenoid Valve
P1105 = 1302 = MAP/BARO SW Solenoid/Valve
P1135 = ?
P0105 = 0803 = absolute pressure sensor
P0332 = 0807 = Related to EVAP system
P1445 = 1008 = Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Volume Control Solenoid Valve
P1105 = 1302 = MAP/BARO SW Solenoid/Valve
BTW - that is all from the stickies - you need to do some of your own research.
How did you determine you are getting no spark?
11-21-2005, 08:56 PM
#12
Originally Posted by russt766
by taking out the coilpack and spark plug and starting the car
11-22-2005, 01:16 PM
#20
Originally Posted by kormax97
bang the starter couple times and start it.
after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car.
after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car.
Since you have verified you have spark., the next thing you have to determine is if you have fuel. Get a fuel pressure gauge, and Tee into a fuel line and cycle the key and check the fuel pressure. If you have sufficient fuel pressure, check the injector circuit, if all is good, then your problem lies in your engine. Do a Compression test.
Good Luck!
11-22-2005, 01:18 PM
#21
Originally Posted by kormax97
bang the starter couple times and start it.
after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car.
after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car.
11-22-2005, 02:33 PM
#22
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Start with the basics. Check your fuses, check to make sure everything is plugged in under the hood. Check the engine and body ground connections.
Download the EC section of the factory manual, from this site. It is loaded with info and tells how to troubleshoot for each code.
Download the EC section of the factory manual, from this site. It is loaded with info and tells how to troubleshoot for each code.
11-22-2005, 04:02 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by killcrap
if the OP was having a problem with his starter, wouldnt you think he would of said No Cranking? instead of no sparking.
Since you have verified you have spark., the next thing you have to determine is if you have fuel. Get a fuel pressure gauge, and Tee into a fuel line and cycle the key and check the fuel pressure. If you have sufficient fuel pressure, check the injector circuit, if all is good, then your problem lies in your engine. Do a Compression test.
Good Luck!
Since you have verified you have spark., the next thing you have to determine is if you have fuel. Get a fuel pressure gauge, and Tee into a fuel line and cycle the key and check the fuel pressure. If you have sufficient fuel pressure, check the injector circuit, if all is good, then your problem lies in your engine. Do a Compression test.
Good Luck!
i still don't think he knows what he's talking about.
then he says,
Originally Posted by russt766
why is car not starting??? i am getting spark but car still wont start
Originally Posted by nismology
He says it's not starting. Have you read the thread at all? It's these kind of thoughtless posts that bother me. He came to us for help, and we're trying to help by starting with the little things first. It's better he gets free help here first than just give his car to a mechanic that's gonna charge up the a$$ to fix something that i'm sure is simple.
Just like you said, "he says it's not starting". wouldn't it make sense to see if it's the battery or the alternator first?
I gave a simple step to follow, which wouldn't cost a penny.
banging the alternator is simple enough.
i don't see what your problem is with my post. but if your talking about my "after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car", i don't think i have to be all goodygoody good guy to everyone all the time, especially with all of this....p0325, p1135, p0105, p0443, p1445, p1105
11-22-2005, 04:51 PM
#24
Originally Posted by kormax97
yes i have read the thread.
Just like you said, "he says it's not starting". wouldn't it make sense to see if it's the battery or the alternator first?
I gave a simple step to follow, which wouldn't cost a penny.
banging the alternator is simple enough.
i don't see what your problem is with my post. but if your talking about my "after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car", i don't think i have to be all goodygoody good guy to everyone all the time, especially with all of this....p0325, p1135, p0105, p0443, p1445, p1105
Just like you said, "he says it's not starting". wouldn't it make sense to see if it's the battery or the alternator first?
I gave a simple step to follow, which wouldn't cost a penny.
banging the alternator is simple enough.
i don't see what your problem is with my post. but if your talking about my "after it starts, since i think you know jack about cars, take it to a mechanic and fix your d@mn car", i don't think i have to be all goodygoody good guy to everyone all the time, especially with all of this....p0325, p1135, p0105, p0443, p1445, p1105
11-22-2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
If there's spark the battery/alternator are fine. Besides, a car will start and run off of the battery even with no alternator, so that point is invalid.
11-22-2005, 05:01 PM
#26
Originally Posted by kormax97
you still don't know what i'm talking about.... i'm only saying, how does he know he has spark?...................
11-22-2005, 06:01 PM
#28
Originally Posted by kormax97
where is this guy... i guess the car starts now? 
#1) You need to calm down. Can you read post #15 in this thread.
he obviously states that the vehicle sparks.
#2) Your posts dont make sense. It is obvious to me that you know nothing about cars. Or a vehicles Ignition Circuit. If the original poster said he had spark, that would mean he cranked the engine(starter engauging flywheel and turning the engine over) The triggering devices such as the Crankshaft postition sensor, and Camshaft Position sensors are doing its job. Telling the Igniton Control Module when to fire. The only time the ignition circuit fires without engine rotation is on INITIAL KEY ON ENGINE OFF(PCM checking for faults). So the engine would need to be cranked over for spark to occur. Your suggestion to bang the starter is useless.
#3) Your car doesnot use the alternator for starting. I wonder why cars have batteries? I'll explain to you. The battery is the following
Amperage for Starting a vehicle
Sustain a constant 12.68v to the vehicles eletrical system.(this is why you dont remove a battery from a running car to check the alternator. pcms like to blow the magic smoke when the voltage level goes above 15V)
Provide additional amperage when the vehicles electrical draw is too high for the alternator to produce
So your suggestion to Hit the Alternator in POST #23 "banging the alternator is simple enough" makes no sense.
so to sum it all up, learn some stuff before making comments.
HAVE A NICE DAY, I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY
11-22-2005, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by killcrap
#1) You need to calm down. Can you read post #15 in this thread.
he obviously states that the vehicle sparks.
#2) Your posts dont make sense. It is obvious to me that you know nothing about cars. Or a vehicles Ignition Circuit. If the original poster said he had spark, that would mean he cranked the engine(starter engauging flywheel and turning the engine over) The triggering devices such as the Crankshaft postition sensor, and Camshaft Position sensors are doing its job. Telling the Igniton Control Module when to fire. The only time the ignition circuit fires without engine rotation is on INITIAL KEY ON ENGINE OFF(PCM checking for faults). So the engine would need to be cranked over for spark to occur. Your suggestion to bang the starter is useless.
#3) Your car doesnot use the alternator for starting. I wonder why cars have batteries? I'll explain to you. The battery is the following
Amperage for Starting a vehicle
Sustain a constant 12.68v to the vehicles eletrical system.(this is why you dont remove a battery from a running car to check the alternator. pcms like to blow the magic smoke when the voltage level goes above 15V)
Provide additional amperage when the vehicles electrical draw is too high for the alternator to produce
So your suggestion to Hit the Alternator in POST #23 "banging the alternator is simple enough" makes no sense.
so to sum it all up, learn some stuff before making comments.
HAVE A NICE DAY, I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY
he obviously states that the vehicle sparks.
#2) Your posts dont make sense. It is obvious to me that you know nothing about cars. Or a vehicles Ignition Circuit. If the original poster said he had spark, that would mean he cranked the engine(starter engauging flywheel and turning the engine over) The triggering devices such as the Crankshaft postition sensor, and Camshaft Position sensors are doing its job. Telling the Igniton Control Module when to fire. The only time the ignition circuit fires without engine rotation is on INITIAL KEY ON ENGINE OFF(PCM checking for faults). So the engine would need to be cranked over for spark to occur. Your suggestion to bang the starter is useless.
#3) Your car doesnot use the alternator for starting. I wonder why cars have batteries? I'll explain to you. The battery is the following
Amperage for Starting a vehicle
Sustain a constant 12.68v to the vehicles eletrical system.(this is why you dont remove a battery from a running car to check the alternator. pcms like to blow the magic smoke when the voltage level goes above 15V)
Provide additional amperage when the vehicles electrical draw is too high for the alternator to produce
So your suggestion to Hit the Alternator in POST #23 "banging the alternator is simple enough" makes no sense.
so to sum it all up, learn some stuff before making comments.
HAVE A NICE DAY, I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY
thanks for not correcting me and just putting me down.
i think you need to take it easy there and not take it all personal.
11-22-2005, 06:40 PM
#30
nothing personal. just showing the ignorant how to become accepted into society.
of course i can take it a step further, and mention how if someone is incorrect, they usually apologize. But i dont want to make fun you.
of course i can take it a step further, and mention how if someone is incorrect, they usually apologize. But i dont want to make fun you.
11-22-2005, 06:50 PM
#31
k first offf.......if ur going to post and be an *** about it then dont post at all.....im on here to get help from fellow maxima owners that can help me get my car running.....so if u wanna just put me down then keep it to yourself....i got no time for drammas......im a newbie to this, thats why im asking for help....
anyway......
i couldnt check fuel pressure because i dont have the tool to check...as for checking for fuel pressure, i disconnected the fuel line from the fpr and put my finger on to see if it has pressure.....i got nothing while the car is on the "on" postion....but i tried to start the car and then fuel started to come out while it was cranking.... so im thinking why would it do that??? i dont know how to check if my fuel pump is working.....or would it be something else....
anyway......
i couldnt check fuel pressure because i dont have the tool to check...as for checking for fuel pressure, i disconnected the fuel line from the fpr and put my finger on to see if it has pressure.....i got nothing while the car is on the "on" postion....but i tried to start the car and then fuel started to come out while it was cranking.... so im thinking why would it do that??? i dont know how to check if my fuel pump is working.....or would it be something else....
11-22-2005, 07:06 PM
#32
i check for compression and got 170-180 psi....i forgot exactly what but i know its between there...
i tried and start my car again and spray starting fluid into the intake manifold and it started up but it died out.......
so what should i do next.....?????????????????????
i tried and start my car again and spray starting fluid into the intake manifold and it started up but it died out.......
so what should i do next.....?????????????????????
11-22-2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by killcrap
nothing personal. just showing the ignorant how to become accepted into society.
of course i can take it a step further, and mention how if someone is incorrect, they usually apologize. But i dont want to make fun you.
of course i can take it a step further, and mention how if someone is incorrect, they usually apologize. But i dont want to make fun you.
keep pushing it.
11-22-2005, 07:22 PM
#34
Originally Posted by russt766
i check for compression and got 170-180 psi....i forgot exactly what but i know its between there...
i tried and start my car again and spray starting fluid into the intake manifold and it started up but it died out.......
so what should i do next.....?????????????????????
i tried and start my car again and spray starting fluid into the intake manifold and it started up but it died out.......
so what should i do next.....?????????????????????
You need to get the fuel pressure tested (if the fuse checks out ok). If it started briefly with starting fluid, it sounds like a fuel issue (i.e. pump could be bad).
11-23-2005, 07:05 AM
#38
Originally Posted by russt766
yup its a new rebuilt motor
I say you still need to check the crank and cam sensors...
11-23-2005, 08:58 AM
#39
Originally Posted by njmodi
Well that opens up a whole can of worms... it would have been nice if you had mentioned that in your original post....
I say you still need to check the crank and cam sensors...
I say you still need to check the crank and cam sensors...
11-23-2005, 09:01 AM
#40
Originally Posted by nismology
Why should he? Rhythmic spark = timing sensors operational.
I'm all ears Nismology - no sarcasm intended.