Tranny popping out of gear
04-08-2005, 07:36 PM
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Tranny popping out of gear
After having a new clutch & flywheel installed 15,000 miles ago, my trans started to pop out of 4th & 3rd gear when I am cruising & let off the throttle? Does this mean those gears are shot & need replacing? It never did that till after the new clutch/flywheel were installed.
04-08-2005, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
Sounds like your throw out bearing, sounds like the culprit.
04-08-2005, 07:48 PM
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TOB was replaced @ the same time. Was it installed improperly? WTF would cause this if it was new?
if it was installed improperly it could be the culprit, but thats not the only thing that could cause it but usually the best know suspect.
04-08-2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
if it was installed improperly it could be the culprit, but thats not the only thing that could cause it but usually the best know suspect.
I hope the stealership will check it out for free or else I'm screwed!!
04-08-2005, 08:18 PM
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It could be your motor mounts - since the shifter is mounted to the frame, and the tranny hangs on mounts, then when you change the torque on the engine, the shifter could get pulled out of gear. Just a guess, but a logical one. The other possibility is the shifter detente springs are tired or broken. That would be a cheap and easy fix.
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04-08-2005, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It could be your motor mounts - since the shifter is mounted to the frame, and the tranny hangs on mounts, then when you change the torque on the engine, the shifter could get pulled out of gear. Just a guess, but a logical one. The other possibility is the shifter detente springs are tired or broken. That would be a cheap and easy fix.
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04-09-2005, 02:45 AM
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i have the same problem but only in 2nd and 1st gear with no tension on the gears, i can pull it right out and sometimes it pops out on its own. my problem is that i took out the wrong freaking bolt to drain my trani fluid so a spring and bearing ball came out with the oil, i think its called the detent spring or something. maybe, if you havent done the same as me, yours could just be worn out? i think the one i took out holds 1st and 2nd in gear, and theres another one that does 4,5th etc. im guessing tho
04-09-2005, 10:07 AM
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I have an automatic tranny and I have a very sluggish start... revs to 2500 or 3000 and then shifts to gear... any leads ? My ECU Error code reads 11-06, problem shifting to 4th gear but mine seems to have probs shifting to 2nd !
04-09-2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dayglo
i have the same problem but only in 2nd and 1st gear with no tension on the gears, i can pull it right out and sometimes it pops out on its own.
04-09-2005, 02:29 PM
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It was odd that it started to happen imediately after the new clutch/flywheel. That makes me think something was put back together improperly. I'm going to take it in, hey I need a new rear main seal, mine is starting to leak. Good excuse to have the stealership pull my tranny out @ their cost, oh & while you're in there, throw in a new rear main seal gasket !!! haha thanx for the feedback jblinga
04-09-2005, 02:51 PM
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since it started right after then it was definately an install problem, in which case you can have the dealership take a look at it for free and get them to fix the problem.
Since you need a new rear main seal put in, this is good timing they cant charge you for labor because they are in there anyway, you'd just pay for the part and they shold swap it out plus fix the problem.
Since you need a new rear main seal put in, this is good timing they cant charge you for labor because they are in there anyway, you'd just pay for the part and they shold swap it out plus fix the problem.
04-09-2005, 06:19 PM
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MDeezy, the code I got was from the ECU. The check engine light was on and I followed the instructions from the link below to read the error code from the ECU.
http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/ecu.html
Using the following link, found out what the error it was indicating. The error message read "Improper Shifting to Fourth Gear (A/T)"
http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/ecudecoder.html
Crockpot, I would really appreciate if you let me know what they tell you bout the car. You seem to be mimicking my problem. Hopefully, they don't say that they need to do the tranny.
http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/ecu.html
Using the following link, found out what the error it was indicating. The error message read "Improper Shifting to Fourth Gear (A/T)"
http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/ecudecoder.html
Crockpot, I would really appreciate if you let me know what they tell you bout the car. You seem to be mimicking my problem. Hopefully, they don't say that they need to do the tranny.
so i dunno much about it
04-10-2005, 12:06 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing....does it pop out of gear on its own? My shifter "pops" out of 2nd, but only when I go to shift to 3rd. It seems like as soon as i begin to move the shift lever, it pops into neutral on its own. Does this have anything to do with the shifter detente springs?
04-10-2005, 06:11 AM
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Is there a way to search for threads in this forum...like threads relating to transmission issue or gas mileage, say. I don't see any but I am pretty sure a sophisticated site with thousands of members would definitely have one. I am just blind !! 
04-10-2005, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dayglo
i have the same problem but only in 2nd and 1st gear with no tension on the gears, i can pull it right out and sometimes it pops out on its own. my problem is that i took out the wrong freaking bolt to drain my trani fluid so a spring and bearing ball came out with the oil, i think its called the detent spring or something. maybe, if you havent done the same as me, yours could just be worn out? i think the one i took out holds 1st and 2nd in gear, and theres another one that does 4,5th etc. im guessing tho
04-10-2005, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sbddude
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing....does it pop out of gear on its own? My shifter "pops" out of 2nd, but only when I go to shift to 3rd. It seems like as soon as i begin to move the shift lever, it pops into neutral on its own. Does this have anything to do with the shifter detente springs?
04-11-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ram_maximus
Crockpot, I would really appreciate if you let me know what they tell you bout the car. You seem to be mimicking my problem. Hopefully, they don't say that they need to do the tranny.
Not sure on exact prob. is yet, that repair price is the minimum.. they could find more shjit when they have it apart. Gave them the go ahead to pull'er apart, see whats happin'.. they're calling me tomorrow to inform me of whats all wrong with it.
04-11-2005, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Crockpot
$1,698.59 rebuild coming my way... yay
Not sure on exact prob. is yet, that repair price is the minimum.. they could find more shjit when they have it apart. Gave them the go ahead to pull'er apart, see whats happin'.. they're calling me tomorrow to inform me of whats all wrong with it.
Not sure on exact prob. is yet, that repair price is the minimum.. they could find more shjit when they have it apart. Gave them the go ahead to pull'er apart, see whats happin'.. they're calling me tomorrow to inform me of whats all wrong with it.
i just kinda hijacked the manual owners thread
04-12-2005, 10:49 AM
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Damn dude.... I was hoping they wouldn't tell you that ..I sorta got the same bill too.. Aww man, this sux. I am taking mine to a dealer today to get it checked. Will let you know later on ... Just goin in to get a second opinion.
04-12-2005, 07:52 PM
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All right ! My verdict is in too... I gotta do my tranny also. They haven't given me a quote yet but I am sure it should be in the $2000+ range.... cuz they charge 50 bucks to change the transmission fluid ! I also have the CV boots busted, the rear brakes and the struts. Need to replace one of the speakers too... another 1000 bucks and I would have spent the same I bought the car for!
04-12-2005, 10:34 PM
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Or you can replace the transmission with one from a junkyard. If you're going to shell out that kind of money to rebuild it, why not spend another ~$300 to rebuild one with LSD from the junkyard? You'll need a new driver's side axle, but it's worth it, IMHO.
04-13-2005, 05:37 AM
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This estimate is the third! I took it to a mechanic, a tranny dude and then to the dealer. The dealer hasn't given me a quote but the tranny dude did and it was $1700. Since dealers charge way more than others do, I estimated that it would be in the 2G range.
Junkyard - I am more than open to doing that if that could save me some bucks.
1. Need to find a good junkyard.
2. How good would this tranny I get from the junkyard be?!
3. I am new and so not used to the abbreviations here. What is LSD and IMHO?
Junkyard - I am more than open to doing that if that could save me some bucks.
1. Need to find a good junkyard.
2. How good would this tranny I get from the junkyard be?!
3. I am new and so not used to the abbreviations here. What is LSD and IMHO?
04-13-2005, 07:57 AM
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LSD = Limited Slip Differential
IMHO - in my honnest opinion.
Search for trannies also @ www.car-part.com they have some good prices. Get a 5th gen tranny, stronger and better.
For $1700 you should be able to find a 5th gen tranny, buy 5th gen clutch kit, both axles (if needed) plus install and have some change left over.
IMHO - in my honnest opinion.
Search for trannies also @ www.car-part.com they have some good prices. Get a 5th gen tranny, stronger and better.
For $1700 you should be able to find a 5th gen tranny, buy 5th gen clutch kit, both axles (if needed) plus install and have some change left over.
04-13-2005, 08:27 AM
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Allright... now back to square one. Would a 5th gen tranny fit a 1995 Max? I have no clues...so willing to take your word. What else do I need to get..I need new drive axles, clutch kit, need an Odometer (my odo doesn't work!). What else? Need to find the right junkyard and a mechanic who'll put it all in.
Is there a way to know that the tranny I am getting is good or do I just take the word of the junkyard guy! I am soooooooooo screwed..damn!
Is there a way to know that the tranny I am getting is good or do I just take the word of the junkyard guy! I am soooooooooo screwed..damn!
04-13-2005, 08:36 AM
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a 5th gen tranny (years 2000 and 2001 only) have the same part number and is the same transmission, But those hears the tranny was strong and 3rd gear is especially stronger. to install a 5th gen tranny is the same as a 4th gen direct bolt up no modding needed what so ever. Clutch kit is the same thing its stronger and grabs better than stock 4th gen OEM clutch.
Sadly I'm in this position too, but when purchasing a tranny, I'd worried about it condition too but sadly you'll just have to go with your gut, unless you have a junk yard thats close to you and you go and look at the tranny yoruself. No matter where you get your tranny from you should have a warantee on it, so that is some sort of protection.
Sadly I'm in this position too, but when purchasing a tranny, I'd worried about it condition too but sadly you'll just have to go with your gut, unless you have a junk yard thats close to you and you go and look at the tranny yoruself. No matter where you get your tranny from you should have a warantee on it, so that is some sort of protection.