JSutter

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Same here. I get mad wheel hop, like loud banging......not good for anything. That means I'll take it easy untill I get some type of reinforced/poly filled motor mounts. I get 0 traction in 1st and 2nd gear....my winter tires are just crap. It gets all squirrely. I never had this kind of power with my old clutch, even from day one. the 2-3 shift is so instantaneous, clutch in.....shift...release....power! its really nice to feel what my car is really capable of. I went to the track often, getting close to stock times, best was 15.1@92.8. I know this clutch will bring me into the 14's.

Vlasic

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i cant wait for the local track to re-open. on my key value clutch, even with all my mods i couldnt break into the 14s no matter what i did.

BigLou93SE

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I'm picking the parts up today. Do you by chance know "what degree to turn the flywheel at?" <---my mech. asked me to find that out for him. After my clutch, I have to do some general maintenence (spark plugs, filters, etc.), and then my knock sensor, and then my car is going to feel like a champ. Even with a dead ks, the new clutch will be putting all of the power I do have down, and therefore will feel grrrrreeeeeaaaaaaaaaat!

IlyaK

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So anyway...I didn't read all the posts cause in the middle I got bored reading of a guy who was asking you how hard the work was. Basically...if my clutch was to go...I'd buy everything for the 4th gen EXCEPT the PP? Which I'd get from a 5th gen? Meaning the only 5th gen part in the job you did was the PP? Thanks.

Poowill

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if you were to read through *gasp* a 2 page thread then it tells you that a few guys used both the 5th gen pressure plate and clutch disk assembly (Vlasic & BigLou93SE). Jstutter only used the PP. Vlasic said he didn't have any problems and the clutch felt great...so putting it all together.. you can do either, but you would probably get more out of a entire 5th gen clutch assembly.

/end of story time

sorry if i came off as a jerk, but your non-modivation to read through a 1-2 page thread bothred me..

Anyways, hope i cleared up your question...

IlyaK

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I'm sorry for bothering you. It's just I'm in class and all. Plus, really, the guy talking about how hard the job was was bothering ME. Oh well...thank you for your help. As always, this place rules. Some people just have a different way of sharing information and that was yours. All is well .

Poowill

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Yes, as someone who is looking into doing this clutch setup as well the work did boether me. I don't know if i'm up to tackling dropping the tranny myself...but from what i've read elsewhere from people this setup is perfect for the street.

Yes, and the .org does rock.

JSutter

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Its not bad of a job if you have certin tools. I just replaced the tranny and it took about 7-8 hours by my self. Racheting wrenches are worth their weight in gold. Without them you have to drop the cross member, which means taking off the y pipe and that alone can open a huge can of worms.

There have been some recent threads about which disc to use. Apparently there are 2 5th gen 3.0 discs, suposedly one smaller than the other. Also there are suposedly 2 different pressure plates (aka clutch cover) with different clamping pressures. At the time I didnt know about the 2 PP, so try an dig up the other thread. I would think the best one would be on the 2001 AE Max because of the 227 hp rating. Mine has higher clamping force than the original 4th gen, but there could be a stronger one too.

Poowill

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Thanks for the info jstutter. How is your clutch now? Still holding up strong? I'm thinking about doing this to replace my exedy stage one which looks to be about the same clamping force as the 5th gen setup..

MaximaSE96

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holy old thread.........5th gen clutch best bang for buck

JSutter

iTrader: (46)

Yea its still awsome. It has not slipped on me ever. I have about 109k now, so its not very worn anyhow.
Looks pretty much the same as when I put it in.

BigLou93SE

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Whoa....back from the dead.

If I'm not mistaken, DaveB clarified that the early PP was the beefier clutch cover, I thought you had talked to him about that.... Guess I'll be looking at the old threads sooner or later.

I had been meaning to go back and gather everything together to put in the stickies....but I have so much crap subscribed now, and the numbers for the parts have changed since the very beginning when only the three of us (known to me/us anyways) had this done. Oh well, I've got time on my hands since I work at nights....so maybe I can motivate myself now.

And just to add another thing...my clutch has been perfect since day one as well - did 12 runs down the track in one night without any problems, and has enough clamp to chirp second without laying down the throttle (if that says anything...ha ) Another way to say it...just like Jon, the 2-3 shift is instaneous still, and daily driving is extremely comfortable...not too stiff but definately great feedback.

HomerMAC

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so i have a 96 i30 with the LSD
would there be any probs with using the 5th gen stuff in mine.

so you guys used the 5th gen clutch, pressure plate?

and also the bearing sound, it sounds like something whirling inside... did you remove the bearing to get rid of that sound? if so what is the exact bearing you guys removed...

MaximaSE96

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no u wont have a problem....the bearing they are talking about is the Throw out bearing u really cant miss it once the tranny is out of the car....theya re like 30 bux so it best to replace while everything is out

HomerMAC

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since this bearing is a cmmon prob is there any revision to the bearing or just replace with the oem ones...

so im gonna replace the throwout bearing, 5th gen pressure plate, clutch, seals,

now what about the flywheel? should i do anything here.

sorry be such a nag. but im really more elctronics etc. and i wanna open up the tranny tmmrw at a shop and have them do EVERYTHING. while its out.. cause iim paying 500$ labor... and that will cover everything..... no matter what i do under there so i wanna get everythign out of the way..

MaximaSE96

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its not really a problem....it just wears out like a clutch does....so say i have 115k on original clutch and TO Bearing...they both will start to wear out....the flywheel usually just needs to be reasurfaced to be true.....other than that i would get some MT-90 Gear Lube and be on my way

HomerMAC

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i had a final question, do your gears fall out of 3rd and 4th to neutral without pressing teh clutch..?

xlr8r

Hmm, that doesn't sound like a clutch problem.

Vlasic

iTrader: (13)

Thats a synchro problem.

HomerMAC

iTrader: (5)

How may i rectify this? what do i have to change...

OpieAB

slightly off topic but not much, how many miles did you guys go before needing to replace your clutch?

BigLou93SE

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I had 135k miles on it.

OpieAB

Thanx, was just curious b/c I have 114k on mine with no real signs slippage except of course if I try and launch it at above 1600 rpms but everyday driving is perfect. Thanx again.

Penguin1996

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i have the same EXACT problem but only on 3rd, not 4th (previous owner beat the crap out of the tranny). if you step on the clutch and leave the shifter in 3rd it just slides right into neutral after 3 seconds and if you try to pop it back in while its popping out youll hear the gears grind. yeah man i know.....tranny issue....aint got nothin to do with the clutch

HomerMAC

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well im thinking about just changing everything whiole its in the shop.. plate,clutch bearings syncro... etc..

HomerMAC

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okay well now im runnign the 5th gen pressure plate and clutch... and i must say its BEAUTIFUL..

my mech. jsut to make shure eveyrthing is catching rite.. he buurnned rubber in the lot... (i was abit conserned cause there wasnt much space...)

but yea.. ive been grannyin gher around.. and its beautiful... 1st gear is AMAZING.... barely any gass needed and its amazing..

ohh man i love it... thanks for the poeple that were the test subjects earlier...

JSutter

iTrader: (46)

^^^^^ Rofflmao

MaximaSE96

iTrader: (8)

if u read the other clutch thread earlier....5th gen pressure plate is the same as S15 Silvias with the 6spd....i am still tryting to confirm the disc

JSutter

iTrader: (46)

o and which motor is that one? JDM or USMD?

MaximaSE96

iTrader: (8)

well the thing i found said 99+ Silvia not 240sx so i would have to say JDM= sr20det....

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...Category_Code=

HomerMAC

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well the VQ30 seems to love it... ohh soo soo beautiful.. JSutter thanks for bringing up this thread rite at the nick of time when im was going to work shop... I LOVE IT

BigLou93SE

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Same thing happened to me....except almost two years ago. Those were good days....this is THE thread I read that made me decide...notice the freak out earlier on when he played that joke...haha. I almost sh.t myself when I saw that.

JSutter

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Dang! Its been that long?

BigLou93SE

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Time flies mang...

JSutter

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i should have noted the miles. i dont drive it like i did the 1st year.

kingrukus

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Besides build date, is there any reason why one should opt for the 30210-89F00 over the 30210-2Y920 pressure plate (or vice-versa)??

eng92

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According to Nissan FAST (2003)
30210-89F00 - 240 mm dia. 635 kg
30210-2Y920 - 250 mm dia. 750 kg

I am using the 2Y920 with a VQ35 coupled to my 98 5-speed VLSD tranny with no issues.

kingrukus

iTrader: (41)

So essentially the 30210-2Y920 has a higher pressure threshold and is ultimately the better choice for more grab, correct?

JSutter

iTrader: (46)

whats the specs for the stock PP?

eng92

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If you are limiting yourself to just those two, then the 2Y920 would be the better choice.