Swap to 5 spd M/T
#1
Swap to 5 spd M/T
Came across several 3rd Gen 5 spds in the boneyard, and I installed the wrong ATF into my trans ( ATF3) and it should have been normal ATF...oh well! I figure I'll be better off beating on a manual than an Auto that's not that strong anyway! I'll be gathering all the pedals and nick nacks...I 'll get with a few folks to locate the leather shifting lever boots, single SS clutch line, and poly bushings...I'll definitely shorten my shifter a little but not too much...
#2
You'll be getting rid of a bit of weight swapping over. No more trans ecu. You're more than likely going to need the manual trans harness that switches the reverse lights on when you go into reverse. Idk if theres a difference in VG vac/plenum setup like the VE between m/t & a/t. Going to have to swap axles and starter (pretty sure your already aware of that). Other than adding a m/c(slave and hose) and pedal. There's not much to it. And yes before anyone tries to jump on me before I say it theres the linkage. I used a ebay 4th gen short shifter. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Meanwhile I need to go out there to the jy and get two bumpers. Also swap my engine harness out.
Meanwhile I need to go out there to the jy and get two bumpers. Also swap my engine harness out.
#5
It ran hard as hell but I'm not gonna waste any time nor money having an auto rebuilt....The weight savings alone are gonna be great...I've got a couple of cars I can get all the linkage, pedals, axles, harness, center console, engine and trans mounts (will be filled), flywheel and of course if the pressure plate and clutch look useable, I'd place them there just to get it running...I do have a LSD M/T already! I really didn't want to do this but I think It'll be more durable than the auto which is slipping and when I had the old fuel injectors 2 injectors failed and I still managed to take out a Modded Corolla Hahahaha...anyway I really love the auto having that free hand but I think the fuel milage and braking (downshifting) will make this almost as fun as my D21...Maximo018 drove it can confirm it pulled like crazy with the auto!!!!
Last edited by CMax03; 02-22-2015 at 08:39 AM.
#7
It ran hard as hell but I'm not gonna waste any time nor money having an auto rebuilt....The weight savings alone are gonna be great...I've got a couple of cars I can get all the linkage, pedals, axles, harness, center console, engine and trans mounts (will be filled), flywheel and of course if the pressure plate and clutch look useable, I'd place them there just to get it running...I do have a LSD M/T already! I really didn't want to do this but I think It'll be more durable than the auto which is slipping and when I had the old fuel injectors 2 injectors failed and I still managed to take out a Modded Corolla Hahahaha...anyway I really love the auto having that free hand but I think the fuel milage and braking (downshifting) will make this almost as fun as my D21...Maximo018 drove it can confirm it pulled like crazy with the auto!!!!
#8
I am with James on the hubs. I watched someone else do this to a VG 3rd gen and they were trying to source the hubs. I Believe the trans bolts up except for one bolt hole. Let me know if there's any help u need. I believe I still have my modified 3rd gen shifter (pivot ball has been moved up).
#9
Oh and I meant auto and manual starters are different. He's going to have to "upgrade ". Lol
#13
man...cmax i've been there.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
#14
man...cmax i've been there.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
#15
man...cmax i've been there.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
i had a seriously beefed up auto (shift kit, heavy duty cooler, filter, higher stall TC, HD clutches) and it ran really nice for a while until it developed a crack in the case. then i was just losing ATF all the time and it got annoying.
went with 5spd and never looked back.
#16
If you're using a VE 5 speed (as you should) you have two options to solve the axle/hub differences. By using the VE spindles (ie steering knuckles) the larger VE 5 axles will work with you VG. Alternatively, you can keep your VG spindles and create "hybrid" axles by using VE 5 inner axle half shaft mated to the VG outter half shaft.
IMO the full VE axles and VE spindles offer you a stronger (larger) axle overall and makes replacing an axle easy as opposed to building another hybrid. I'm not sure on all starters, but the VG 5 starter obviously works with the VE 5 trans since you are still using your VG flywheel.
Finally, be sure to use Redline MT-90 for your fluid, it is the best GL-4 trans fluid I've ever used.
IMO the full VE axles and VE spindles offer you a stronger (larger) axle overall and makes replacing an axle easy as opposed to building another hybrid. I'm not sure on all starters, but the VG 5 starter obviously works with the VE 5 trans since you are still using your VG flywheel.
Finally, be sure to use Redline MT-90 for your fluid, it is the best GL-4 trans fluid I've ever used.
#19
91 Nissan maxima auto to manual swap
never swapped a tranny before. would love feedback on the parts id need and a pretty detailed explanation on how to attempt this. im relatively smart and im good at picking things up quickly so with directions I think I could pull this off
#20
the trans
bearing carrier bracket
shifter and all associated linkage/hardware
shifter trim and boot
clutch pedal and bracket
clutch lines
master cyl
slave cyl
flywheel
new clutch (you don't want to reuse this)
definitely do a search to get more details
#22
Hi guys, I like to hear any input about the wiring for back up lights and clutch switch. I did swapped my auto to 5 speed manual on my VG maxima and everything works good. Before I got deploy, I left the wiring part intact. I just need to work on that now that I am back. Any pictures or comments will help.
#23
When I did the swap, I figured out the wiring from the selector switch that's mounted to the auto tranny I took out. Simply simulate the park and neutral positions and with a multimeter (preferably with continuity setting), probe the wires at the connector. Do the same thing in the reverse position. I would tell you the color wires but my car is long gone and I'm back in an auto which is running perfectly so need to do the swap yet. Hope this helps.
#24
1990 VG SE Vs 1993 GXE VG harnesses diferces
Here are some pictures of the differences in the wire harness
1990 SE transmission (4 wires female and male side).
1990 SE transmission (4 wires female and male side).
1990 SE
1990
1990 SE
1990 SE transmission (4 wires female and male side).
1990 SE transmission (4 wires female and male side).
1990 SE
1990
1990 SE
#25
These are pictures from a 1993 GXE VG auto harness
1993 GXE wire harness with 3 wires on the harness side and 4 wires on the transmission side.
1993 GXE VG
1993 VG auto harness
1993 GXE VG auto transmission shifter plugs at center console.
1993 GXE wire harness with 3 wires on the harness side and 4 wires on the transmission side.
1993 GXE VG
1993 VG auto harness
1993 GXE VG auto transmission shifter plugs at center console.
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