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Old 04-11-2012, 06:33 AM
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Turbo setup help

The little I know there is no turbo kit available for the ve30de. I want to turbo charge my 1992 ve30de. I learned that most of the work is custom like all the piping. But need your help and let me know what I the safest well balance turbo setup. Thanks
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Originally Posted by TonyJr
The little I know there is no turbo kit available for the ve30de. I want to turbo charge my 1992 ve30de. I learned that most of the work is custom like all the piping. But need your help and let me know what I the safest well balance turbo setup. Thanks
Alot of that depends on your goals and budget. Are you capable knowledge, skills, tools to do fab work or are you going to pay someone/shop do it? I have over $2k in just my turbo setup and supporting mods. That is even with me doing all work myself. It is possible do to a setup alot cheaper just depending what you are after.
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im looking for 300 horsepower and most of the work is going to be done by my friends. im wondering if i need upgrade on ecu ,and injectors size for 300hp. I know that i need a wastegate, bov, turbo, turbo timer, gauges, intercooler. i dont know to much can a ve30de motor can handle without doing upgrades to internal work. I come from a rotary (rx7) family. which is completely a different world to piston. this is why im asking for suggestion on a good and safe setup. i love to go turbo...
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Having a lot more in my '89 VG turbo than $2k, I would never do it again. I love my turbo, but there are just so many better platforms to mod. You know, hindsight and all.
If you are dead set on more power (and the VE is no sloach!) then look into what Aaron has done with his NA VQ35 swap into his 3rd gen.
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Yea I saw a couple of videos of the swap. Which his more was all stock right? I wonder how difficult is that swap.
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Yea I saw a couple of videos of the swap. Which his more was all stock right? I wonder how difficult is that swap.
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As most who have gone boost, nearly all will say that they love the power but hate the time/money that it CONSTANTLY requires. If 1 component goes bad, such as a boost controller, it is several hundred dollars to fix it. From what you listed above that you think a turbo system requires it tells me you have a very basic understanding about boost and will rely on others to do the work which is a VERY bad idea for more reason than 1. At the very minimum, you will need to upgrade most of your internals not necessarily out of necessity but out of preventative measures to insure you motor can handle another 150+hp. I went the supercharged route on my vq30DE and it is a TON of work and nearly always requires a TON more money than you anticipated from the planning stages. I dont even have it installed yet and I have spent well over $1k on parts for the kit alone and I got the v2 and most of the piping for a steal. Not to mention how much work the install is going to take and the amount of dyno work it will require to insure you don't blow your motor. Boost is normally for people who use their car for more than just DD. Boost is the #1 way to make a car unreliable and it does so in a FAST manner lol. If you can find a cheap kit and have friends who own a shop or something that have access to a dyno then I would say go for it. Most boost applications require tons of custom work and that all means more $$$. Hope this helps you see how much of a commitment it is. Not trying to scare you away from it lol, don't get me wrong, I just want to prepare you. Do some more research in the boosted section of the forums and decide what you want to do. GL

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helpful hints thanks for the reply
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:01 AM
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A VE30de can do 300hp without internal upgrade, even a crappy VG30e can do 400hp and it's a lesser motor. If you're building a car, then counting money is like walking backwards. Then again the 3rd gen world is dominated by junkyard divers. Maybe someone with a boosted VE will step up and give you a good answer...live your dream. Money is gonna get blown one way or another.
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Here's a boosted VE...
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
A VE30de can do 300hp without internal upgrade, even a crappy VG30e can do 400hp and it's a lesser motor. If you're building a car, then counting money is like walking backwards. Then again the 3rd gen world is dominated by junkyard divers. Maybe someone with a boosted VE will step up and give you a good answer...live your dream. Money is gonna get blown one way or another.
The vg is way from a crapy motor. Guys have made over 500 to wheels on stock internals. Also have seen over 700 on factory head studs and gaskets.
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Originally Posted by akurtzer57
The vg is way from a crapy motor. Guys have made over 500 to wheels on stock internals. Also have seen over 700 on factory head studs and gaskets.
I'm only asking for 350-400hp from the VG I'm setting up for my NA2T Z31. I have all the parts needed for that already, all the parts for the AT2MT with Z32 NA tranny, all the parts for converting to VLSD diff etc. How much is it going to cost in the end...who cares. I'm doing my part for the economy.
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Put effort into the build, don't skimp on essential parts, and make sure to put some time into tuning it. Nistune seems to be the go to for most turbo applications.
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
A VE30de can do 300hp without internal upgrade, even a crappy VG30e can do 400hp and it's a lesser motor. If you're building a car, then counting money is like walking backwards. Then again the 3rd gen world is dominated by junkyard divers. Maybe someone with a boosted VE will step up and give you a good answer...live your dream. Money is gonna get blown one way or another.
If he wants James use to be boosted and seems really knowledgeable on how to set it up.
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Want to be boosted? Sell your car and buy mine.
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Lol what do u have?
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:29 AM
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Heavily modded VG. Check my cardomain. Needs some work at this point to finish pulling out the power, but would be an option rather than starting from scratch.

Needs larger exhaust, new wideband, and some other minor stuff. Currently got a T3 but would scream with a T3/T4 hybrid. Just pm me if interested.
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Buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/Maximum-Boost-.../dp/0837601606
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Will tell you everything you need to know.
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Originally Posted by ampire
Buy this:

[Picture of Maximum Boost by Corky Bell]

Will tell you everything you need to know.
Have you actually read this book or are you just saying this because you heard it was great?
There is no way this book is "everything he needs to know", not even CLOSE. Maximum Boost covers a large range of topics, but doesn't get very detailed. Its a fairly basic book for beginners and definitely doesn't give you the knowledge to build your own turbo system. Heck, it doesn't even teach you how to read a compressor map (essential in picking a well match turbo for your specific engine/goals) Not mention the book isn't exactly cutting edge, its 15 years old. Yes, it was written in 1997 and I think at the time it was the best book out there, but now there are many great and up to date books on turbos. For example, my top 3 favorites:

1.Turbo: Real-World High-Performance Turbocharger Systems by Jay K. Miller

2.Street Turbocharging: Design, Fabrication, Installation, and Tuning of High-Performance Street Turbocharger Systems by Mark Warner

3.Turbocharging Performance Handbook by Jeff Hartman

(SIDE NOTE: the last book (3) is part of the "Motorbooks Workshop" series and I think they do a great job with all their books. They are filled with detailed pictures of the topics so you can "see" what they are talking about. They also include a ton of great info and present it in a very entertaining way. I think everyone should take a look at "Sport Compact Car Engine & Driveline Handbook" Its not turbo specific, but it does have a few good chapter on them. It also includes several engine builds(total walk through), including a N/A Sentra and a 560whp/548wtq 300zx)
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If you are going to drive the car hard all the time things will break. It would be better to get something that can handle more power if you plan to do so. I have had my car boosted since 08' and the only thing I replaced was the clutch and the tranny was recently rebuilt, it is a dd with 173k, had the original clutch, etc. My wideband o2 sensor went dead the other day also but other than that I have not had to replace anything, it depends how you drive it. Having knowledge ahead of time will save you time and money. Friends can help out but if you are driving and it starts bogging, leaking, or the afrs start reading wierd you need to know how to diagnose it.
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