The Conversion
04-16-2010, 06:31 PM
#1
The Conversion
Welp I'm starting a new thread because of noise and deterioration in the others concerning this type of body swap. The original thread served only as a source of motivation for me and nothing more. If I'm able to pull it off the way I would like I will not do a writeup as I don't think a lot of people care for this type of a headache. My VE is worth preserving thus I sacrifice a few braincells to get it done.
I have a 1992 FSM on the way...the freebie 1994 pdf lacks 1992 specific details
Death of a VE5
One pearl white giving life to another
Yes we keeps her covered in the hood at that.
Both harnesses swapped and lots of testing currently taking place. Can you say leaky steering rack?
More to come stay tuned, the forum blockade says I'm limited to five images...so until then boys.
I have a 1992 FSM on the way...the freebie 1994 pdf lacks 1992 specific details
Death of a VE5
One pearl white giving life to another
Yes we keeps her covered in the hood at that.
Both harnesses swapped and lots of testing currently taking place. Can you say leaky steering rack?
More to come stay tuned, the forum blockade says I'm limited to five images...so until then boys.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 04-16-2010 at 06:48 PM.
04-16-2010, 06:37 PM
#2
This clack free 1994 motor came with the VE5 apparently yanked out of an auto.
The VG engine room harness sitting on my kitchen floor where I reference and chop into it as needed.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 04-16-2010 at 07:19 PM.
Good luck! Seems like a lot of work. Um what was wrong with the VE car in the 1st place again?
04-16-2010, 09:49 PM
#4
04-17-2010, 08:10 AM
#5
Wait, what are you doing exactly? Putting a VE 5 into an original VG car?
Good luck, shouldn't be too hard. I think most people here overstate the degree of difficulty/hassle of the swap.
Good luck, shouldn't be too hard. I think most people here overstate the degree of difficulty/hassle of the swap.
04-17-2010, 12:27 PM
#7
Just got to tweak the harness at various areas. Swap out the cooling unit because the VE AC compressor piping is bigger and the fuel pump needs to be rewired.
04-21-2010, 08:41 PM
#9
Finally got to spend a day with it today...among the things I did I rewired the fuel pump (from here) and ran a ground connection to the pump.The pump action is quite basic in the VE when compared to the VG me thinks.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 04-21-2010 at 08:50 PM.
05-06-2010, 02:32 AM
#10
Still working on the baby. Swapping lots of stuff to the shell mostly electrical. Cut up the VE SMJ and fuse box so I can extract what I need to inject in the shell. All I have left to finish up is plugging in F1 into M12 (the other end is already inserted into the fuse box) moving the cornering light connection from I3 in the 1990 se SMJ (M12) to I5 and bypass the VG relay (M4) should be done in half an hour tops. Next up is the engine swap. Pics?
05-06-2010, 03:12 AM
#11
It's all about that N15 life. Seriously though, there may be some differences between 92-94 even though there shouldn't be. But regardless, it's light years ahead of what Nissan was doing previously. They really started to think logically about things around 1988.
I know you're right about differences though, after trying to swap a 1992 door lock timer into a 94 I realized it wasn't going to work. I'm sure that's just scratching the surface, but I don't think you need to cut anything though. Just swap complete engine room > SMJ > cabin.
I know you're right about differences though, after trying to swap a 1992 door lock timer into a 94 I realized it wasn't going to work. I'm sure that's just scratching the surface, but I don't think you need to cut anything though. Just swap complete engine room > SMJ > cabin.
Last edited by Hectic; 05-06-2010 at 03:18 AM.
05-06-2010, 10:14 PM
#12
It's all about that N15 life. Seriously though, there may be some differences between 92-94 even though there shouldn't be. But regardless, it's light years ahead of what Nissan was doing previously. They really started to think logically about things around 1988.
I know you're right about differences though, after trying to swap a 1992 door lock timer into a 94 I realized it wasn't going to work. I'm sure that's just scratching the surface, but I don't think you need to cut anything though. Just swap complete engine room > SMJ > cabin.
I know you're right about differences though, after trying to swap a 1992 door lock timer into a 94 I realized it wasn't going to work. I'm sure that's just scratching the surface, but I don't think you need to cut anything though. Just swap complete engine room > SMJ > cabin.
I'm cutting out the VG and splicing in the VE. BTW the shell is 1990 and the donor is 1992. There are three circuits that must be modified if you want this swap to work right. I swapped all the electrical stuff from the donor RH front door to the shell with excellent results.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 05-06-2010 at 10:29 PM.
05-22-2010, 08:58 AM
#17
05-24-2010, 06:48 PM
#19
I think building it can be a little costly and if you aint feelin inspired, don't put a later Max in the shell of a earlier one no matter how nice the body is. Plugging stuff up today I realize the VG accelerator cable is much shorter than the VE.
05-26-2010, 06:50 PM
#21
She started today...didn't let it run because no coolant is in the engine. The heater core and the water **** assembly will have to be swapped to accommodate the larger hoses and the VG water **** thingy is pressing against the EGR tube due to the design, also the power steering pipes will be swapped. The ASCD cable is longer than the VE type so that will be addressed as well. Having the two FSM's to compare the electrical differences made it a lot less difficult me thinks. It's all mechanical quirks at this point.
The accelerator cables.
That's how she sits right now in the VG shell.
Now the work begins making it satisfying to the eyes and mechanically correct.
The accelerator cables.
That's how she sits right now in the VG shell.
Now the work begins making it satisfying to the eyes and mechanically correct.
05-26-2010, 07:01 PM
#22
Like I said before...the writeup concerning this type of swap is misleading and will frustrate the uncommitted. Yet it did motivate me to do it and if the proper steps are taken, then it's a piece of cake and can even be done without needing a donor car. As I stumble my way through it I'll let y'all know. But she works as of right now. Time to go get drunk.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 05-26-2010 at 07:12 PM.
05-27-2010, 06:10 PM
#23
More monologue
Next week when I revisit my project car I will do the power steering lines and the conversion will be DONE!!! Then it's on to the regular stuff. The ASCD pump was swapped today and the VE cable is indeed shorter by about six inches so the **** is sitting correctly now. The water **** assembly was replaced and all is well.
BTW on my way to the house I was a prestine 3rd gen, it looked like it came out of cryogenic storage, no mods or none o that crap. Pure factory and pretty as hell. I stopped and gave the owner my respects.
BTW on my way to the house I was a prestine 3rd gen, it looked like it came out of cryogenic storage, no mods or none o that crap. Pure factory and pretty as hell. I stopped and gave the owner my respects.
05-30-2010, 04:44 PM
#25
I had a helleva time swapping the power steering lines today, but I got it done in a couple hours. Didn't wanna bend anything. Juiced her up with all the fluids and revved the Bejesus out of it...no leaks (well the crank seals are kinda tired), no missing, idling as great as it did in the other body.
On another note...if anyone wants to do a swap over like this...
On another note...if anyone wants to do a swap over like this...
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 05-30-2010 at 04:56 PM.
06-16-2010, 08:12 PM
#26
Other thread reminded me of this so I'll give you a bump. Kind of sad the lack of responses after all that work, although mostly a direct swap with minimal rewiring, it's still a lot of work. Congrats.
06-16-2010, 08:43 PM
#27
06-17-2010, 12:34 AM
#32
When it came time to swap the engine we simply dropped it out the bottom with transmission, axles and hubs still attached on a piece of plyboard then slid it over to the shell where we lifted it into place, all without spilling a drop of engine or gearbox oil
. (Synthetic oil aint cheap) Charged up the battery hit the key and she came to life.Put the poly filled mounts in along with new engine cradle bushings and I have no increased vibration. All I have left to do is the exhaust to make her road ready.
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 06-17-2010 at 12:56 AM.
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