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they do fail one after another rather rapidly in alot of cases.
+1
I had 2 fail within 1 month of each other on the vg, 2 failed within 3 months on the ve..The difference...the vg injectors died @ 125k, the ve injectors didn't die until 300k+...
I had 2 fail within 1 month of each other on the vg, 2 failed within 3 months on the ve..The difference...the vg injectors died @ 125k, the ve injectors didn't die until 300k+...
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
I am not so sure if I would have bought a maxima if I knew the injectors were such a problem. Such a pain to get apart and the injectors are so expensive. I'm becoming less and less a fan of Nissan every day.
I am not so sure if I would have bought a maxima if I knew the injectors were such a problem. Such a pain to get apart and the injectors are so expensive. I'm becoming less and less a fan of Nissan every day.
go change the spark plugs on a 84 cutlass supreme 3.8 (rwd) and get back to me about not liking nissans.........
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
I am not so sure if I would have bought a maxima if I knew the injectors were such a problem. Such a pain to get apart and the injectors are so expensive. I'm becoming less and less a fan of Nissan every day.
they are no more expensive than any other import injector.
you are dealing with a 15+ year old car. the quality of it is highly conditional on previous owners, not nissan.
the fit and finish of the interior of the 3rd gen is better than some brand new cars.
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
My daily driver before the maxima(and again now) is an '87 toyota Mr2. Paid $400 for, 225+K miles and gone to hell and back. Interior looks terrible but the thing still runs great. 7500rpm redline and it sees it near daily. Only thing I have done(other than regular maintenance) to it is change the clutch. The timing belt is who knows how old but I don't care, it is a non-interference motor. Even my ford escort was non-interference. I know that because the belt blew at 170k miles. Towed the escort home and replaced the belt, ran great again.
I bought my 89 maxima last summer with 114k miles. I've replaced struts(completely dead), tie rod end(blown), drivers side CV(split boot), master window switch(went nuts), timer control thing(nothing worked right), P/s lines(leaking at every connection) and now this. This is the lowest milege car I have had and have been the most difficult.
My parents had a '80 olds cutlass v6, GM makes crap cars.
low mileage is rarely a good thing. when cars are rarely driven they tend to have more issues since fluids aren't changed when they really should be, moisture isn't burned off, things dry rot.
and what the hell does your parents having a 1980 old cutlass have to do with GM making crap cars?
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
Well, the fuel rail I pulled from the JY VG Manifold I have definitely is the older 89-92 style with square tops and long pintle caps, but they are still red. Plus they have the Nissan hamburger outlined on the top of the injectors. I'll post some pics when I have them cleaned up and ohm tested.
i wasn't referring to the car's quality, i meant the fact that the spark plugs are hidden under the exhaust manifolds, in a place where you can't put much body weight on the ratchet to get them out. But i guess all pushrod V-engines are like that, whereas on ours, they go into the valley (of course, that being carb'd, you have a big circular air cleaner in the way of the valley).
My point was, if you're complaining about the servicieability of the 3rd gen (which is, compared to alot of other cars i've done work on, including a 4th gen, pretty damn easy to service) then you don't wanna mess with the Olds. Heck you can't even unhook the a/t cooler lines without a highly-offset flare nut wrench of some sort!
but brian's def right about low mileage causing problems. The is the biggest piece of crap in the world NOW, but i'm sure if it'd been taken care of, it wouldn't be. it uses 1gal of ATF per 30 miles due to a leaking flare fitting. gets 15mpg highway before the leak started. lopes at idle but sure as hell isn't cammed. stalls just for kicks..
if all i had to do to fix it was replace 2 fuel injectors i'd be as happy as a pig in mud.
__________________ PieceOut.FallToPeacesNew to the forum? CLICK HERE!!!! 1985 Nissan 300zx 2-seater: VG30E | 5spd Swap | Bilstein | 5-lug conversion | Polyurethane everything | Resurrection-in-progress! 2004 Honda Civic EX Coupe: 1.7L VTEC | 5spd | CAI soon | LED tails and Projectors soon | ES Poly Motormounts soon | 'bad weather' car/backup for teh Z 1990 Nissan Maxima GXE: VG30E | VLSD-5 swap | Exedy | NWP | a33b(F)/z31(R) BBK | ES poly | SE susp swap | 2k2SE 17s | retired Aug 28th '09 2005 Nissan Maxima SE: VQ35DE | 6spd | Carolina Panthers front lisence plate | Brother's car, not mine | <-- Therefore still 100% stock
Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 03-09-2009 at 12:07 PM.
Well, the fuel rail I pulled from the JY VG Manifold I have definitely is the older 89-92 style with square tops and long pintle caps, but they are still red. Plus they have the Nissan hamburger outlined on the top of the injectors. I'll post some pics when I have them cleaned up and ohm tested.
Well, all the red top injectors tested good, around 12.3 ohms. So, that's good news. The potential problem is that I figured out that they may be from a Z31 turbo or Pathfinder. I think I remember that the guy I got the intake from on eBay mentioned that it was from a turbo vehicle. So, the question is, will they work on my stock car?
Some info I gleaned from redZ31.net is that the stock Z31 turbo injectors put out a max of 260cc/min. It says there that they are electronically controlled to only do 80% of that, but that is still over our stock 168cc/min I think (is that the right number?).
Anyway, someone please tell me if I can run the car with these. Thanks.
Well, all the red top injectors tested good, around 12.3 ohms. So, that's good news. The potential problem is that I figured out that they may be from a Z31 turbo or Pathfinder. I think I remember that the guy I got the intake from on eBay mentioned that it was from a turbo vehicle. So, the question is, will they work on my stock car?
Some info I gleaned from redZ31.net is that the stock Z31 turbo injectors put out a max of 260cc/min. It says there that they are electronically controlled to only do 80% of that, but that is still over our stock 168cc/min I think (is that the right number?).
Anyway, someone please tell me if I can run the car with these. Thanks.
-Mark
Well, for lack of further info/feedback I tried installing these injectors, fuel rail and all (I never actually took them out of their rail. I just cleaned up the outside of them and installed the whole rail). I also installed new fuel and vacuum hoses and cleaned up the intake. I installed new valve cover gaskets and tried to make the valve covers look pretty by cleaning and waxing them. Anyway, after too long I got it all back together and it doesn't start.
Anyone have any ideas? Does the ECU not recognize the injectors? With the new fuel hoses does it just take a while for the fuel pump to get fuel back up inside the intake/injectors? What should I do? Thanks.
Well, for lack of further info/feedback I tried installing these injectors, fuel rail and all (I never actually took them out of their rail. I just cleaned up the outside of them and installed the whole rail). I also installed new fuel and vacuum hoses and cleaned up the intake. I installed new valve cover gaskets and tried to make the valve covers look pretty by cleaning and waxing them. Anyway, after too long I got it all back together and it doesn't start.
Anyone have any ideas? Does the ECU not recognize the injectors? With the new fuel hoses does it just take a while for the fuel pump to get fuel back up inside the intake/injectors? What should I do? Thanks.
Yeah, reset the ECM and then try again. I also had a hell of a problem getting my injectors to seat into the fuel rail properly. If yours are seated incorrectly they will be dumping fuel into the leaking cylinder(s) while leaving the other cylinders starved (all fuel pressure drains out through the leaky O-ring). A good way to tell if you have this problem is to cycle your key twice to trigger your fuel pump and then crank it over while holding the accellerator about 2/3 open. It will start after cranking several times if this is your problem (to verify make sure you don't hear any vacuum leaks). If not, check the vacuum hose at the passenger side lower corner of you upper intake. These are the things that I had the most problems with and I hope they help you as well.
96 Green A/T gone
94 Pathfinder POS GONE! | 79 Camaro sold
98 I30t Silver on black A/T gone | 96 Granite Pearl (AKA Purple) A/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 96 I30 Black gone
92 maroon VE A/T gone | 92 white VE M/T gone
92 grey VE A/T gone | 6/84 L24E last of the RWD Maxima gone
Can someone please answer my question? Do O-rings that are not from the dealer always fail/leak?
I rip 9 aftermarket o-rings in a row......so I went and bought dealership o-rings. no problems at all.. Dealer does not charge much at all for this and considering the quality you can't go wrong
Well, it seems that my injector/fuel rail swap was successful, at least so far. I haven't driven the car around yet due to the radiator leak. I should have that taken care of later this week and will let you know if everything is fine.
I'd just like to know if any of you think I might have a problem from having reused the old rubber injector seats in the fuel rail when I installed it in the manifold. I cleaned them up and none of them seemed cracked, only a little dried out. But I did seat them properly and torqued down the bolts holding the fuel rail, so I think it should be good. Just wanted feedback from anyone with experience either for or against reusing those seals.
FYI- I never actually removed the injectors from the rail, so new O-rings wasn't really an issue, just the seats.
Will someone do me a huge favor and walk me through replacing a fuel injector underneath my intake manifold?? 92 VE motor, Firewall side, farthest toward passenger side of the car. Not sure what injector number. I have the new injector, and wanna get it in there, but without having worked on any nissans before kinda has me worried. I replaced a fuel injector already, took about 10 minutes, but can't get to the firewall side. Any help would be much appreciated!!!
I rip 9 aftermarket o-rings in a row......so I went and bought dealership o-rings. no problems at all.. Dealer does not charge much at all for this and considering the quality you can't go wrong
Dealership O-Rings are most likely the same as the aftermarket ones if your buying them from the drop ship places. The OEM are either Ishino or Nippon Reinz...depending on what batch they have, and just slapped with a Nissan sticker and part no. I don't see how it's possible to wreck the O-Ring if you follow the FSM and apply the engine oil to the ring (or vasaline), and I applied a light film of engine oil inside the little cup on all surfaces. As well, follow the main advice from the 3rd gen forum...twist as you insert. So as you are pushing the injector turn at the same time until you here the cluck sound....or whatever sound it makes, once it's seated.
Last edited by 1993-VG30E-GXE; 07-04-2009 at 02:05 AM.
Will someone do me a huge favor and walk me through replacing a fuel injector underneath my intake manifold?? 92 VE motor, Firewall side, farthest toward passenger side of the car. Not sure what injector number. I have the new injector, and wanna get it in there, but without having worked on any nissans before kinda has me worried. I replaced a fuel injector already, took about 10 minutes, but can't get to the firewall side. Any help would be much appreciated!!!
If you can, download the Service Manual for your J30. The COMPLETE procedure is explained, as well as the torque specs. It's not a very difficult job, but without the service manual you'll be lost and probably make mistakes, plus guys in this forum have discussed this a hundred times or more...so you could search on it.
buy the right parts the first time and many headaches are averted.
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