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It was running earlier today but when i got home it was parked for half an hour. The engine turns but wont start!
let it cool a while longer, while it's cooling down, check over the engine compartment for obvious items that don't look right(broken connections/wires/hoses/etc)
Relax man, have some patience and take your time, be through with your inspection, there is no reason to scrap the car because it won't start, you have a failed part causing it, you just have to find out what it is..We will help as much as we can..
Sorry guys i have been very busy today im gonna try to fix the cracked coils tomorrow. Dont know how to run the tests on EC-253. My neighbor said it sounds like its not getting gas?? Any ideas about that one?? Just did the fuel pump,fuel filter, and one of the injectors no more than 2 weeks ago.
And im pretty damn sure it has nothing to do with the battery or alternator. I have power through the car. Excuse my french my car is making me very mad but i love my maxima
Sorry guys i have been very busy today im gonna try to fix the cracked coils tomorrow. Dont know how to run the tests on EC-253. My neighbor said it sounds like its not getting gas?? Any ideas about that one?? Just did the fuel pump,fuel filter, and one of the injectors no more than 2 weeks ago.
if the CMPS is not sending signal to the ECU, it will not give gas. the CMPS is the only way that the ECU knows if the engine is spinning or not. If it doesn't think the engine is spinning, it will not give it gas.
i'll admit... the test procedure for the CMPS is kinda complicated, compared to some tests i've seen.
you have a 2-mode system cuz it's a VE. If it comes back as having an error code, that is, something other than a 55, then you will know what to begin looking at.
if you cannot for the life of you figure out how to do the tests on EC-253... then i still suggest trying a different CMPS cuz nobody else has yet to come up with a part that will shut the tachometer off when the engine loses power, but still have everything else (radio, speedometer, headlights, etc) functioning normally
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Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
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Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 12-03-2008 at 08:40 PM.
Sorry guys i have been very busy today im gonna try to fix the cracked coils tomorrow. Dont know how to run the tests on EC-253. My neighbor said it sounds like its not getting gas?? Any ideas about that one?? Just did the fuel pump,fuel filter, and one of the injectors no more than 2 weeks ago.
Did you do the work, or a shop?
Please include all recent work done when you first post about a problem with your car.
if the CMPS is not sending signal to the ECU, it will not give gas. the CMPS is the only way that the ECU knows if the engine is spinning or not. If it doesn't think the engine is spinning, it will not give it gas.
*snip*
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Originally Posted by 92maxima92
Car will not start now also could this be a result of a bad CMPS???
lemme see if mine will start with it unplugged... hold on
edit:
first time, i cranked it for about 10 seconds and it did absolutely nothing. i waited a second, tried it again, and it did start.... but was misfiring like a mofo, and pushing the gas pedal did didn't cause it to rev... it caused it to backfire through the exhaust, and the tachometer kindof fluttered once or twice when i jabbed the gas, but didn't actually have anything to do with RPM. CEL was on also.
keep in mind tho, i don't have the same engine as you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 12-03-2008 at 09:07 PM.
When the listing was posted you did it and the recent work done is at the bottom of the first posting sorry for the misunderstanding. I personally did all the work on it and there are many local junkyards but not sure if there are maximas there. What would you like me to look for at these junkyards for my car???
lemme see if mine will start with it unplugged... hold on
no,it will not start..
This doesn't mean this the cmps is the culprit, please dude, before he spends the money on this SERIOUSLY EXPENSIVE PART ) lets make sure it's not other things maybe related to cracked coils, or his recent work..
This doesn't mean this the cmps is the culprit, please dude, before he spends the money on this SERIOUSLY EXPENSIVE PART lets make sure it's not other things maybe related to cracked coils, or his recent work..
well i wasn't gonna tell him to buy a brand new one unless he was sure that's what it was..... if he could get his hands on a known-good used one for theap tho, that would let him know if he needed a new one or not. cuz yea, those things are hella expensive.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
well i wasn't gonna tell him to buy a brand new one unless he was sure that's what it was..... if he could get his hands on a known-good used one for theap tho, that would let him know if he needed a new one or not. cuz yea, those things are hella expensive.
Well then stop harping on it, this part rarely fails on these cars,(hence the $$$ for a new unit) I'm now thinking this has more to do with recent work done, instead of coils or cmps or whatever..
Also, unless he has a U-Pull-It type salvage yard local, most "regular" junkyards will not let you pull any one engine part off of a good engine in their yards, so a used unit may not be an option for him.
Well then stop harping on it, this part rarely fails on these cars,(hence the $$$ for a new unit) I'm now thinking this has more to do with recent work done, instead of coils or cmps or whatever..
Also, unless he has a U-Pull-It type salvage yard local, most "regular" junkyards will not let you pull any one engine part off of a good engine in their yards, so a used unit may not be an option for him.
well for something like that i would suggest finding someone on the .org that has one on a junked VE motor. i don't think aaron is selling any VE parts just yet but of course he would have one... cardana24 should have one as well.
i've come across another car tho that would totally fall on its face for no reason while driving, and sometimes took forever to start. we never managed to figure out why it wouldn't start, but whatever it was, it was causing the injectors not to fire. if he's got a multimeter he can hook it up to one of the injector plugs while trying to start the car, to see if he has any voltage.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
Yes i Smell raw gas under the hood after i have tried to start it but not inside the car
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Originally Posted by 92maxima92
My neighbor said it sounds like its not getting gas when i was trying to start it
well if you smell raw gas under the hood after trying to start it, then either you ARE getting gas, or you have a fuel leak and that's where the smell is coming from.
perhaps not getting any spark...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonOksa
Horsepower, torque and speed are all known by The State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, and reproductive disorders.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigleman
how much would it cost to resleeve?
how does an aluminum motor form rust on the cylinder walls???
DO NOT PM ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR UNLESS I TELL YOU TO. THAT'S WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR
lemme see if mine will start with it unplugged... hold on
edit:
first time, i cranked it for about 10 seconds and it did absolutely nothing. i waited a second, tried it again, and it did start.... but was misfiring like a mofo, and pushing the gas pedal did didn't cause it to rev... it caused it to backfire through the exhaust, and the tachometer kindof fluttered once or twice when i jabbed the gas, but didn't actually have anything to do with RPM. CEL was on also.
keep in mind tho, i don't have the same engine as you
Exactly, you cant diagnose VE issues with a VG, they are two different worlds..The ve will not start period with the cmps unplugged.
, go unplug your mass air flow sensor wire harness, then try to start the car.
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