Where to buy the fidanza flywheel for the low
11-18-2008, 09:25 AM
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Purchased mine sometime ago from Ultrarev.com. Some prices are competitive and the Maxima Exedy keyvalue clutch kit is the cheapest I've seen
11-18-2008, 10:37 AM
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11-19-2008, 02:19 PM
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11-20-2008, 07:32 PM
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Yeah, it makes more sense to put the clutch and flywheel in at the same time.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
11-20-2008, 07:45 PM
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Yeah, it makes more sense to put the clutch and flywheel in at the same time.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
11-20-2008, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, it makes more sense to put the clutch and flywheel in at the same time.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
I am probably in the minority, but I preferred the stock flywheel over the Fidanza. I still have the Fidanza in, but when I do my next clutch replacement I'm considering going back to the stock flywheel. Why? Most of it is driver feel. In particular I preferred how the car launched with the stock flywheel. I miss the torque. Shifting seems smoother overall with the lightened flywheel, but given the choice I still prefer stock. If I could do it again, I'd skip the flywheel and use my funds on a BBK or some KONI's.
11-20-2008, 07:59 PM
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Could you elaborate on what it feels like vs. stock? I have a fidanza in my room ready to go in but you're making me think twice. I've read up and heard nothing but good things for the most part, what is your experience with it? If this is the case, maybe I would be able to "source" a fidanza for the op on the low.
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
11-20-2008, 08:19 PM
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hadman doesnt post often, so here it goes...
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
11-20-2008, 08:29 PM
#15
hadman doesnt post often, so here it goes...
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
11-20-2008, 08:30 PM
#16
Oh ok, yeah I've heard that before. I remember harassing this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lunxL-mHI_A in a thread a while back because of the rough 1-2 shift before I knew he had a fidanza. Guess it wouldn't bother me much, I imagine it would be worth it at higher rpm's/mid-band acceleration, make the car kind of feel "lighter on it's feet"? Wish I could test these things on another car before I put them in, guess I could always swap back to the OE flywheel.
lol, some of you guys are soo lazy
slap that biatch in there mang 
It's just a simple tranny drop-n-swap in the end.
11-20-2008, 08:34 PM
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Well like I said, it's mostly driver preference, but you actually do lose some real world torque when the numbers are crunched. My butt dyno feels the difference.
Basically with the lightened flywheel it has less energy transfer to the crank.
A flywheel with more weight behind it gives it more torque and power transfer from the initial launch.
That said, once in motion, a lightened flywheel transfers energy quicker, which translates to faster transfer of your upshifts (why am I now thinking of being 'upshifts creek without a paddle?). Never mind. Where was I?...
Right, once in motion that faster transfer of energy is one of the pros of going with the lightened flywheel. For me, I prefer gaining back the improved power transfer at initial launch.
Basically with the lightened flywheel it has less energy transfer to the crank.
A flywheel with more weight behind it gives it more torque and power transfer from the initial launch.
That said, once in motion, a lightened flywheel transfers energy quicker, which translates to faster transfer of your upshifts (why am I now thinking of being 'upshifts creek without a paddle?). Never mind. Where was I?...
Right, once in motion that faster transfer of energy is one of the pros of going with the lightened flywheel. For me, I prefer gaining back the improved power transfer at initial launch.
11-20-2008, 08:38 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty lazy as it is. Just hard to do with time constraints, needing the car, and lack of funds, still need two motor mounts. I'm not worried about the swap itself, was very straight forward, and my dad has all the tools for the firewall holes, just getting around to doing it and finding time, and most likely doing without a helper and hoist (Even though with the floor jack it was pretty easy) I really can't wait to get it in there, if I could have before now I definitely would have. Unfortunately the Max has had to take a back seat here recently, just been keeping up with maintenance and keeping her squeaky clean. You know how it is.
11-20-2008, 08:44 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty lazy as it is. Just hard to do with time constraints, needing the car, and lack of funds, still need two motor mounts. I'm not worried about the swap itself, was very straight forward, and my dad has all the tools for the firewall holes, just getting around to doing it and finding time, and most likely doing without a helper and hoist (Even though with the floor jack it was pretty easy) I really can't wait to get it in there, if I could have before now I definitely would have. Unfortunately the Max has had to take a back seat here recently, just been keeping up with maintenance and keeping her squeaky clean. You know how it is.
) but if i had a fidanza on hand, i wouldn't hesitate throwing that biatch in there.
11-20-2008, 08:48 PM
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hadman doesnt post often, so here it goes...
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
the stock flywheel is heavy as hell, so when you "gas up" to slip the clutch for take off, a stock flywheel will store up the engines energy in the weight of the flywheel in a sense, making the take off smooth, where a lighter flywheel cannot do this as much(duh! it's lighter!) so the take off will be much more jerky/less controlled.
11-20-2008, 08:55 PM
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11-21-2008, 02:33 PM
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pearl -
my car is a VG5 with a fidanza, and matt's is a VG5 with a stock flywheel. both from my driving experience both cars, and his (he still drives mine sometimes... he's jealous of my mods), the general consensus is that it's quicker and easier to upshift, takes less blip of the throttle to revmatch a downshift (tho you can't linger... gotta get off the clutch quick before the RPM falls again), and is twice as touchy to launch as the stock flywheel. I actually startled myself last night when i was repositioning his car after putting his axle back in (see n00b thread) and my foot slipped and the car smoothly engaged and backed up, UPHILL, without me touching the gas. Try that in my car and you'll be on the brakes and hitting the starter again. The RPM it takes to launch the car without jerking also increased alot with the fidanza. Tho sometimes i will pull off a smooth 900rpm launch, i usually have to launch between 1500 and 1800 nowadays. With the stock flywheel i was almost always below 1200rpm when launching. If I get SurraTT's z31 then i'll put the fidanza on it, and put the stock back on my Max, since the z will be a track ***** of a car, rather than a DD (interior already gutted)
and since i ain't got a job right now... $100 plus gas to/from and i'll come down and help you with that 5spd swap.
my car is a VG5 with a fidanza, and matt's is a VG5 with a stock flywheel. both from my driving experience both cars, and his (he still drives mine sometimes... he's jealous of my mods), the general consensus is that it's quicker and easier to upshift, takes less blip of the throttle to revmatch a downshift (tho you can't linger... gotta get off the clutch quick before the RPM falls again), and is twice as touchy to launch as the stock flywheel. I actually startled myself last night when i was repositioning his car after putting his axle back in (see n00b thread) and my foot slipped and the car smoothly engaged and backed up, UPHILL, without me touching the gas. Try that in my car and you'll be on the brakes and hitting the starter again. The RPM it takes to launch the car without jerking also increased alot with the fidanza. Tho sometimes i will pull off a smooth 900rpm launch, i usually have to launch between 1500 and 1800 nowadays. With the stock flywheel i was almost always below 1200rpm when launching. If I get SurraTT's z31 then i'll put the fidanza on it, and put the stock back on my Max, since the z will be a track ***** of a car, rather than a DD (interior already gutted)
and since i ain't got a job right now... $100 plus gas to/from and i'll come down and help you with that 5spd swap.
11-22-2008, 09:48 AM
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I gotta admit. I've never had that jerky feeling. Not with the flywheel anyway. However, I do that jerky feeling when I get cut off by another driver for no good reason.
But seriously... the only time I've noticed a jerky feeling with the lightened flywheel is when I'm in stop and go traffic. When I am crawling slowly in traffic and the car is saying either give me gas, or put me in neutral, 'clutch chatter' seems to rear its head quicker with the lighter flywheel.
But seriously... the only time I've noticed a jerky feeling with the lightened flywheel is when I'm in stop and go traffic. When I am crawling slowly in traffic and the car is saying either give me gas, or put me in neutral, 'clutch chatter' seems to rear its head quicker with the lighter flywheel.
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