'93maximaGXE

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Why do i always see 3rd Gen Maxima's with T4 and T5 turbo's? i want to rebuild and turbo my 93 GXE but was thinking why not go with a major HP gain and get a T88 or something. Also, where should i look for inexpensive parts to rebuild my engine?
Thanks.

internetautomar

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turbo + inexpensive = boom

'93maximaGXE

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hahaha, well i meant, the least expensive parts.

CapedCadaver

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take a look a few links down at MaxMaxima's new setup. his turbo is the size of your head. and he makes 400+ WHP.

mtrai760

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If your already thinking about cheap parts, then FORGET turbocharging your car. You cannot afford. it.


You gotta pay to play.

'93maximaGXE

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alrighty then. where should i get the parts?

CapedCadaver

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well i don't think he was looking for cheap crap.... rather just the best price on good stuff. cuz you know a lot of places will charge you way more than the parts are worth. like the JY i don't go to anymore... wanted $75 for a used window regulator. or $550 for a 5spd tranny. so i went and bought a parts car for $200 less (and for being a parts car, it ran good enough that i'm taking the motor for my car too). so yea... i guess what he's looking for is best bang for the buck

'93maximaGXE

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thats exactly what im looking for. thank you.

kzoosho

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I got all my stuff from my favorite place, Ebay. I got the turbo for 450 (turbonetics 60-1) and the intercooler,piping, couplers, clamps, and downpipe flange were the ebay kit. I am using a n2o line for my oil feed with a restrictor from atp. It can be done fairly cheap but you dont want to cheap out on your tune. You can have a 10000 car and a bad tune and you will end up with a 10000 parts car.

Jeff92se

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T88? If you hit the gas on monday, you might built boost by tuesday

CapedCadaver

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and on wednesday you'll either be moving at mach 2, or be in the shop with a blown headgasket...

3g94MaxGXE

Hahaha I was wondering why nobody mentioned turbo lag. Either way unless you've got a fully built motor I don't see what a big turbo would do for you cause you will end up wit engine problems in no time.

CapedCadaver

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and then there's the issue of massive HP in a FWD car will just lift the front and spin tires. that's one time when a high-end biased engine is good tho... because once you're moving you can turn on the power, but just taking off through 1st and the shift into 2nd... it simply can't take that much power. maybe an a/t is a different story... but the VG AT won't take but about 5 miles of t88 abuse before throwing in the towel.

3g94MaxGXE

Yep I was with you there a long time ago or I would be rolling in a turbo Maxima by now. Funny thing is we're now talking about traction issues in 2 threads.

sleepyvg30e

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when it comes too turbo bigger is not always better check out the vg30det somehow they added a smaller t25 to replace the t3 which somehow gave the engine the exact same hp but 5ftlbs more torque and has less turbo lag which is good unless your trying to break a land speed record

3g94MaxGXE

Well the reason the T25 can produce the same boost is the fact that factory turbos are not usually set up to run at their limits. So you get a 5-7lb boost factory turbo that just as easily could put out lets say 10-15lbs. You can replace it with a smaller turbo, run it closer to it's limits and make the same horsepower, get less lag but the bad part is the factory turbo would be capable of a bit more if you desired it.

Darkwing48

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Please elaborate or point me towards a thread that you discussed this. It Sounds interesting

CapedCadaver

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no thread in particular. it's just a few concepts that can fairly easily be reasoned through when considering how a car will behave in different circumstances. like the fact that the faster you are going, the more tq you can put to the wheels without spinning them. or the fact that the car's nose lifts during acceleration and that's bad on FWD. a/t will smooth out the launching and shifting so you won't chirp as hard (b/c you have a tq converter), but the vg a/t has enough trouble as it is...

sleepyvg30e

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has anyone ever built a twin turbo with one small turbo to reduce lag and one larger turbo for the high end that the VG lacks

3g94MaxGXE

I don't know about on the org but alot of manufacturers do it.

'93maximaGXE

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that is probably most likely what i will be doing.

Cinnamint

Go with a small turbo and low boost on stock compression. It's cheap and no lag.

mtrai760

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First you want the cheapest parts, then you want to do a twin turbo setup? Stop, your killing me!!!

CapedCadaver

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except that...

mtrai760

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Right... People are always big talk until they realize that, even when finding good deals, building a 'simple' single turbo setup will run your around $2k-$3k IF you can do the work yourself. Let's not get into the elements of running a dual turbo setup in series.

kzoosho

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Im going to run 6 turbos. One for each cylinder. That way i have instant boost and plenty of power. Im put them right where my seat goes so i can make sure they are working right.

CapedCadaver

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all T4s amirite?

yea.. i know what you mean there. and i know JUST enough about sequential TT to know that i'm never going to mess with it unless i have a spare car and $10k of "oops i f**ked up again!" surplus money.

mtrai760

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You ever see the pictures of the guy that ran his turbo where his passenger seat used to be? I'm pretty sure it was on a 240, but I can't remember all the details now. I'm pretty sure the car caught on fire...

CapedCadaver

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ever seen this one? http://www.britishv8.org/Triumph/EdOlson/EdOlson-A.jpg

or this one? http://www.turbo-kits.com/images/sts...in_turbo_3.jpg

mtrai760

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I don't see anything wrong with either of those

I was talking about a ghetto made, barely holding on turbo mounted where the passenger seat used to be, in a non-convertable car. Exhaust was leaking INSIDE the cabin! I've been trying to find pictures or the thread I saw on it for the last 10 minutes, no luck so far...

whattingh

I think this is what you think of http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/200437

CapedCadaver

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nothing wrong with them... they're just also kinda bizarre, like the in-the-cabin one.

CapedCadaver

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a) EVERYONE can look in your window and see your car is TT.... theft risk much?
b) VG AUTO Twinturbo?
c) must be hot in there
d) so... he ruined his cabin to keep the turbos out of the engine bay... but STILL had to relocate his battery. smooth.
e) i thought the intercooler went post-turbo... his is preturbo
f) if the turbo blew up, i'd rather have it under the hood where i WON'T get shrapnel in my eye, arm, etc... and not be deafened by the exhaust blasting in my with no muffling, etc etc.

mtrai760

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FOUND IT!!! Best part is, It's on a turd gen!!!



Complete thread is here with more pictures: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_to...=413656&page=2

mtrai760

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Yeah, same thing.

kzoosho

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Damn someone had my idea. BUt im do it with 6 not 2. Go big or go home. Then ima supercharge it.

sleepyvg30e

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i like this one the best isn't just as possible to stick all that piping in the trunk instead of passenger seat that would eliminate most of those problems with..... ya know death when it blows up... but the trunk is fine just as safe as the engine bay with more than enough room plus you could really make them visible this way

BenStoked

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part of the problem with a setup like that is air compresses, and will be lower psi by the time it gets to the engine (layman, as I understand it) because of all the piping from the back to the front. and likewise, for the exhaust, psi would be lower in the back, making it harder to push the turbos.

not to contradict myself, here, but some people have seen pretty decent results from it. I don't know of anyone in the 3rd gen forum, but I think there are in the 4th gen and 5th gen. may also want to check the turbo/supercharge forum.

Deth

Is there anyway a T4 or T5 would work with the new HKS special edition universal BOV with my VG30E?

3g94MaxGXE

That in car turbo setup is just nasty, who would do that and why?