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Old 04-28-2008, 08:43 PM   #1
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Brand new transmission has arrived :)

got the transmission, new, as stated, and since new transmissions havnt been made for the gen3s in like, forever, i found some that were sitting in a warehouse, snapped some pix with the crap cam on my phone, wish they coulda been better, but the thing was boxed and bagged, supposed to go in thurs, so i'll finally be able to go in 2nd gear in this car, wish me luck that thats the problem.




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Old 04-28-2008, 08:49 PM   #2
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How much and where can I get one? That's a pretty sweet find....a warehouse full of new transmissions for the taking. Reminds me of the warehouse in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

PS) If you care about looks, it would be nice to spray the trans with clearcoat to preserve that pristine finish. It's rare to get a transmission in such nice shape.
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Its still an auto though, so it sucks son.

Should've done a 5-speed swap.

I could drive a stick in San Francisco and not burn up clutches. You're just a noob. lol
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Are you sure that's an auto? Judging by the size that looks smaller than my old auto to me. Oh, and who TF are you? As far as I'm concerned...you're a noob. That's a pretty g@y first post, in my opinion.

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How much and where can I get one? That's a pretty sweet find....a warehouse full of new transmissions for the taking. Reminds me of the warehouse in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

PS) If you care about looks, it would be nice to spray the trans with clearcoat to preserve that pristine finish. It's rare to get a transmission in such nice shape.
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took them 1.5 weeks to ship, but 4 days to arrive...
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Are you sure that's an auto? Judging by the size that looks pretty 5spd-ish to me. Oh, and who TF are you? As far as I'm concerned...you're a noob. That's a pretty g@y first post, in my opinion.
I know him, he drives fieros and needs to learn that maximas > american
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Mid-engine > FWD. Especially with your heavy FWD and your auto. 5-speed FTW.
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Mid-engine > FWD. Especially with your heavy FWD and your auto. 5-speed FTW.
um yeah i think we all pretty much know the what's-what of drivetrains and transmission choices. kthxbye.









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Hmm...so that is an auto. Well, I guess looks aren't a big concern. Did you really spend $1000 on that trans? Granted, having a brand new transmission is VERY nice...you could have gotten a JY trans for less than $100. Still cool to have tho.

Tinton, do you have ANYTHING worthwhile to add to this thread? So far all I read is "blah blah blah...5 speed nonsense...blah blah blah...random fact that makes it seem like I know all about cars....blah blah blah."
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i wanna know how much a legit vlsd5 would be...... ibtheorgcouldemptytheirwarehouseinlike1week

will a 2nd gen 5spd fit a 3rd gen? i always forget. it might bolt up but i mean the speed sensor, mainly, rather than the cable hookup.
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Manual > Auto.
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that's what I'm talkin about. I almost want to get one just to have. I could strengthen it up while doing the engine swap. Still though, for $1000...I'd rather invest in custom cams and new pistons.


PS) This tinton dude is ridiculous. Either he's a retard, or he's trying to get his post count up so he can make his own retarded question thread. Oh, and manual is not > automatic. You find me someone who can shift a manual as fast as an automatic and we'll talk. Now maybe write something like: [manual fun > auto fun]

That would be a more accurate statement, and even THAT is relative. I can say that because I did a 5spd swap myself, and there are times that manual fun < auto fun. (ie: traffic)

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Manual > Auto.
I do not think anyone has ever bragged about swapping an auto into a manny sports car.... maybe a hotrod, but not an import sports car.
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Well, if we're calling the Maxima an import sports car, then what would the Integra or RX7 or supra be considered? I would consider those more of an import sports car. If we're still talking about the Maxima we should call it what it is; a sedan. Granted, it can be turned into something a bit more...but it's still a heavy car. Nissan made other cars in 89-94 that would be considered an import sports car WAY before the Maxima ever would. 240SX, and others, for example. However, this topic has been covered time and time again. We all know what the Maxima is and what it could be. That isn't really the point...we're here because we like them.

Regardles, benstoked's point is very true....unless of course you take into account drag cars and even some race cars. An automatic with a high stall torque kit and shift point mapping software will be more effective on the track than the same car with a manual ever could be. Hydraulic valves with electronic servos are just faster than human reaction time in any situation.

I'll take my 5spd over my old autotragic ANY day. It makes the car a blast to drive, and I have fun every time I get behind the wheel. I NEVER got that feeling while the car was an auto.

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Interesting web site, although most of the Maxima parts they have are for 1st and 2nd Gens. Apparently, they bought up Nissan's old inventory. I wonder if Nissan is still holding on to most of their 3rd Gen parts still.
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Well, if we're calling the Maxima an import sports car, then what would the Integra or RX7 or supra be considered? I would consider those more of an import sports car. If we're still talking about the Maxima we should call it what it is; a sedan. Granted, it can be turned into something a bit more...but it's still a heavy car. Nissan made other cars in 89-94 that would be considered an import sports car WAY before the Maxima ever would. 240SX, and others, for example. However, this topic has been covered time and time again. We all know what the Maxima is and what it could be. That isn't really the point...we're here because we like them.

Regardles, benstoked's point is very true....unless of course you take into account drag cars and even some race cars. An automatic with a high stall torque kit and shift point mapping software will be more effective on the track than the same car with a manual ever could be. Hydraulic valves with electronic servos are just faster than human reaction time in any situation.
not only faster, but far more consistent. and the TC launches it softer for less wheelspin. aka Aaron.
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I got it shipped to my door for 700$ shipped

didnt wanna take any chances with JY, could be in bad shape, have over 90k miles on it and only 20 to go, rather just buy a new one since i just bought the car. plus the risk of crushing / killing myself.
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Well, if we're calling the Maxima an import sports car, then what would the Integra or RX7 or supra be considered? I would consider those more of an import sports car. If we're still talking about the Maxima we should call it what it is; a sedan. Granted, it can be turned into something a bit more...but it's still a heavy car. Nissan made other cars in 89-94 that would be considered an import sports car WAY before the Maxima ever would. 240SX, and others, for example. However, this topic has been covered time and time again. We all know what the Maxima is and what it could be. That isn't really the point...we're here because we like them.
perhaps i should have said 4dsc? lol
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Regardles, benstoked's point is very true....unless of course you take into account drag cars and even some race cars. An automatic with a high stall torque kit and shift point mapping software will be more effective on the track than the same car with a manual ever could be. Hydraulic valves with electronic servos are just faster than human reaction time in any situation.
conceded, and we forgot to mention tiptronics and such... to many they are as fun as sticks, and have the advantage of the quickness of an auto.
(but i wasn't meaning to take away from true race cars, who need the advantages of a tuned auto to make consistent passes in a drag race, etc.)

besides, the douche who started this has logged off long ago...( not the OP!!!
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I would hate to have to start a FLAME war, especially about FireOs....errrr, Fieros......
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You find me someone who can shift a manual as fast as an automatic and we'll talk.
Sorry, but a manual ONLY changes gears when YOU want it to. Not when it gets a burr up it's *ss and decides to do it for you, or not.

And unless you've massaged the snot out of your autotragic, it's shifts are longer since they are tuned for street driving where smooth shifts rule.

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Should've done a 5-speed swap.

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The whole manual>automatic debate is boring. It has been done and done and done and who cares? Yes we all enjoy manuals, yes automatics are weak. We all know this. Why is it whenever anyone posts a automatic thread some idiot has to post the old "no 5speed-no care" comment. Get over it people.

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I personally meant in no way to take away from mystical's find. $700 for 100K mi+(easy) is a great investment.
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That surplus site is a fun browse... but their prices are off the wall. What looks like a new VE throttle, only ~$500:

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Shazam! Nice find on the tranny... 'son'
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Well Nissan wants $3,000 so I'd say you found a whale of a deal.
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yeah, compared to the rest of the market $1000 for a BRAND spankin' new transmission is a steal and a half. It makes me wish I lived by them so I could just drive over there and pick it up myself.
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ugh i hate hearing people bit@h about the automatic trans....these cars are 2 decades old and people call them weak because they are failing after 15+ years of use with no maintenance.
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ugh i hate hearing people bit@h about the automatic trans....these cars are 2 decades old and people call them weak because they are failing after 15+ years of use with no maintenance.
Ppl speak of of their experiences. They truly can be bad... that is still not the true whole pic most have.

When all EU-ppl around have to get by with the manual pedicabs, A/T is a luxury, taxed as such. What is more annoying that spending hours -daily- pumping pedals in rush hour jams?

Maxima A/T is the 1.first one that is changing gears like a though - drivers desire, that is. When tuneup is NOT made, then WYSIWYG, then one speaks what one has earned. Like T-belt. Too bad it doesnt las 5x promised. Man, the one complaining really earns what he is due.
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ugh i hate hearing people bit@h about the automatic trans....these cars are 2 decades old and people call them weak because they are failing after 15+ years of use with no maintenance.
No, they have been failing well before the 15 year mark, even with maintenance, ask DanNY.. his auto failed before the 90k mark with proper maintenance. These are documented weak *** transmissions on this site and in the real world, for instance, one of my local j-yards has 5 vg autos sitting in their yard with no dents, or any other visible sign of damage which would put a car in a j-yard, why? because every one of them has a bad transmission.


Then enter the ve auto, which most can go over 200k without a fluid change and still be good to go, yeah, try to get 200k out of a vg automatic without slip-slip weeeee!!, neutral in all gears!!
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... every one of them has a bad transmission. ...
The yard is not full of maximas, is it? ... so hau hau hau hau.

Please smbdy come out with the facts:
1. How many A/T cars sold 1989-1994
2. How many A/T Maximas sold 1989-1994
3. How many A/T cars 1989-1994 are still registered (=not junk)
4. How many A/T Maximas 1989-1994 are still registered (=not junk)
5. Add one variable to this equation: tranny OIL CAPACITY.

Next the math, then find the approximate %% -answer. Feelings here on this forum cannot translate to facts. Ppl mainly come to complain, seek hlp, not just to give praise.

On top of that, if smbdy would go and analyze the junkyard A/T trannys, mileage & OIL, I bet one would find the T-belt syndrome: each has original japanese oil, the dino oil 2year/30k miles guide's warranty abused flatly at least 8 times. (For example by trusting the Nissan/stealership hideous plans and FSM).

RE4F02A low OIL capacity will surely have impact on the above syndrome. Low volume translates to more abuse by Liter.

I keep it as a miracle these abused Maxima A/T's still were running last year...

Summarum: with all mentioned issues I do not claim that the RE4F02A etc A/T would be a miracle endurance-tranny, but only none worse than others.
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The RE4F02A is a weaker trans than the RE4F04*. the 2 is about equal to a honda transmission in it's strength. which puts it way above a chrysler or ford FWD transmission.
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The RE4F02A is a weaker trans than the RE4F04*. the 2 is about equal to a honda transmission in it's strength. which puts it way above a chrysler or ford FWD transmission.
When both A/Ts are spread on the table, I guess the main difference is oil capacity? Poor design to save here - cost for bigger oil capacity is peanuts. (But maybe this design fills the corporation maximus milking purpo$e... I hear the new trannys dont even have a (?) checkup stick... or like on bmw, bump on front means whole front swap with engine - and only in bmw -shop$.)
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When both A/Ts are spread on the table, I guess the main difference is oil capacity? Poor design to save here - cost for bigger oil capacity is peanuts. (But maybe this design fills the corporation maximus milking purpo$e... I hear the new trannys dont even have a (?) checkup stick... or like on bmw, bump on front means whole front swap with engine - and only in bmw -shop$.)
have you had both "spread out on a table" as you put it?
I've talked to rebuilders, and there is a reason it's a weak trans, it was designed that way.
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When both A/Ts are spread on the table, I guess the main difference is oil capacity? Poor design to save here - cost for bigger oil capacity is peanuts. (But maybe this design fills the corporation maximus milking purpo$e... I hear the new trannys dont even have a (?) checkup stick... or like on bmw, bump on front means whole front swap with engine - and only in bmw -shop$.)
There is an easy way to correct the low oil volume. Add a trans cooler.
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have you had both "spread out on a table" as you put it?
I've talked to rebuilders, and there is a reason it's a weak trans, it was designed that way.
+1 It was a cost cutting measure to add lower quality parts to keep costs down on the car during nissans "in the red" days of the early 90's


Heat is also the main enemy of these trannies, which a trans cooler as shoult pointed out will help dramatically.
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+1 It was a cost cutting measure to add lower quality parts to keep costs down on the car during nissans "in the red" days of the early 90's


Heat is also the main enemy of these trannies, which a trans cooler as shoult pointed out will help dramatically.
not to argue, but if they were so far in the red, then why introduce the VE and associated parts?
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c) manufacturing facilities had to be set up to mass-produce them
d) now the maxima line had to be split in two and could not all be assembled on the same line
e) better transmission with VLSD
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exactly caped, from what i remember, it was around the end of the 4th gen production nissan had some money problems, especially since they had to merge with renault. In the early 90's we had the VE introduced, new in 90 300zx i believe, Infiniti was being introduced, and they had some nice good quality cars. Altho i do know that in that late 80's possibly early 90's nissan had alot of financial trouble in Australia, so they pulled out of that market, but i dont know if that would have effected the quality of our 3rd gen tranmissions too much.
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when the VE and it's associated bits were being designed nissan had the money. when the car was launched they were having financial troubles.
The transmission was used in all V6 FWD application from 95-01ish. The VG got it when it was being used in the Quest.
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