9007 bulb upgrade**With Pics**

[internetautomar]

Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin

Who makes those?

I had been mulling over doing the 9007 conversion since a post I read about it the other day.

I was at the store buying supplies for my trip this week and walked by the automotive section. I happened to notice these bulbs on sale and so I bought them. Sort of spur-of-the-moment type of thing.

I couldn't really tell in my garage how much they would look "hyper white" like those ebay ones I had. I might have to go and change my corner lights now. These things always turn into a bigger hassle than you want.

http://www.federal-mogul.com/en/Afte...liteHeadlamps/

[Greeny]

I bought a set of 9004 wagner britelites(pre 9007 upgrade), i was less than impressed with the light output, i ended up reinstalling my old sylvania's a few days later.

[internetautomar]

Originally Posted by Greeny

I bought a set of 9004 wagner britelites(pre 9007 upgrade), i was less than impressed with the light output, i ended up reinstalling my old sylvania's a few days later.

I loved em

[Cliff Clavin]

Wow, I used them for the first time at night. Very impressive compared to stock. I recommend this "mod" for anyone with the stock housings, for sure.

Now, I need to get out on the highway and see how much lower I need to adjust the beam. I think it still might be a little bit high.

[kringle03]

I need to replace my stock headlight assemblies, due to cracks and chips from rocks.... does anyone have any thoughts on the following?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=140279115684

[DanNY]

Originally Posted by kringle03

I need to replace my stock headlight assemblies, due to cracks and chips from rocks.... does anyone have any thoughts on the following?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=140279115684

1 - shouldn't bump an unrelated thread that dates back so far back.
2 - it's the standard fare headlight w/ clear lense and black reflector rim. i'm sure you can see reviews if you search for it. what thoughts or feedback are you looking for??

[kringle03]

Well, I was wondering if anybody had purchased this particular set and if the brackets fit correctly if there were any beam/aiming issues known? or just general comments about this style/application. I'm not one for bumping old threads, but I thought it relevant. Thanks guys!

[Gunther]

stock output is better than those - search for them and there are pictures

[Pearl93VE]

Kringle I PMed you info.

[burhan92SE]

how about for HID bulbs? if i change the wiring to 9007 then is it gonna effect on HID bulbs output? my HIDs r on low beam....

[CapedCadaver]

Originally Posted by burhan92SE

how about for HID bulbs? if i change the wiring to 9007 then is it gonna effect on HID bulbs output? my HIDs r on low beam....

putting HIDs in a stock housing is about as stupid of a thing as a human being can do. If not THE stupidest.

Don't do it. End of story.

and the 9007 wiring affects which wires in a stock-connector bulb do align to which pin of the bulb itself. the wire colors still correlate to the same function, just are in a different position because of the different construction of the 9007 bulb. If you have HIDs then why wyould you even mess with changing wires around? In order to do HIDs your wiring is already custom anyways.....

[burhan92SE]

Originally Posted by CapedCadaver

putting HIDs in a stock housing is about as stupid of a thing as a human being can do. If not THE stupidest.

i don see any solid reason of being stupid by putting HIDs in stock housing.....u get a gud output and easy to see on road at night....

[Greeny]

Originally Posted by burhan92SE

i don see any solid reason of being stupid by putting HIDs in stock housing.....u get a gud output and easy to see on road at night....

and you will also BLIND every oncoming driver with your hid/in stock housing headlights.

The stock headlight housings are not designed to reflect a hid bulb correctly. Look at the hundreds of defusing lines in the stock glass, they are designed for regular lights, a hid light will screw up the light output lines and blind every oncoming driver you pass. and you might get you a few very expensive tickets to boot.

and second, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT HID'S DUMBASS!!So take this elsewhere..

[cvsmaxima]

Once again Greny (and Michael) thanks again for an excelent read. Ill be installing these tonight!@

[jakeru]

I just did the 9007 bulb upgrade. I used Phillips Extra Visions (~$18 from walmart.)

I had the darndest time removing one of the electrical connectors from one of the connector housings (there is a fragile edge of a plastic tab you need to move with a small flat screwdriver, I think I broke off, then there was nothing to grab, so had to stick another micro-screwdriver down through past the wire (by the silicone seal) to get the plastic tab thing to let go.) But I did get it done.

I snipped (with dykes) the three locator tabs of the headlight housings, then ground remaining material off to make it smooth (sanded it off, cleaning sandpaper frequently to avoid material going into the housing.)

I tried installing the bulbs right side up, and upside down (like someone said they did here and liked.) Upside down was a surprise, because the low became high, and the high became low. Big time re-aiming would have also been necessary, so for now I just left them right side up. I don't know if I could reconfigure those electrical connectors a second time (in particular disengaging the plastic tab again.)

Anyway, I'm very pleased with the light output with the 9007's... I can see the road again! And I found no re-aiming was necessary (with 9007 bulbs "right side up") either. My old bulbs were just the standard sylvania's (9004)

[mikekantor]

Those plastic tabs are very soft, I just took a knife and sliced them off in one motion.

[jakeru]

Has anyone else where tried running the 9007's upside down, and what did you think? Were you able to make them work better that way than vs. right side up?

[CapedCadaver]

Originally Posted by jakeru

Has anyone else where tried running the 9007's upside down, and what did you think? Were you able to make them work better that way than vs. right side up?

it would make your highbeam aim lower than your lowbeam.... so no, not worth trying.

[jakeru]

Ghostmax suggested it earlier in this thread, that some other applications undergoing the 9004 -> 9007 conversion had done it with an improved beam pattern and more low-beam output.
http://forums.maxima.org/4837898-post50.html

Presumably, one would swap the low and high beam connectors when performing the 9007 "upside down flip". I tried it briefly, but didn't have it in my to do the major re-aim that would have been necessary to make it work at the time, but maybe I'll play with it a little bit more.

Just wondering if anyone else with a 3rd gen max has tried the upside down 9007 configuration, and if so what did you think.

[edit: whoops I meant 9007, not 8007.]

[Greeny]

Originally Posted by jakeru

Ghostmax suggested it earlier in this thread, that some other applications undergoing the 8004 -> 8007 conversion had done it with an improved beam pattern and more low-beam output.
http://forums.maxima.org/4837898-post50.html

Presumably, one would swap the low and high beam connectors when performing the 8007 "upside down flip". I tried it briefly, but didn't have it in my to do the major re-aim that would have been necessary to make it work at the time, but maybe I'll play with it a little bit more.

Just wondering if anyone else with a 3rd gen max has tried the upside down 8007 configuration, and if so what did you think.

Start another thread about this, this is a stickied thread about the 9007 upgrade only..

[Garf]

http://www.andysautosport.com/nissan...i00149777.html
I ordered these headlights already, and i'm going to shave the nubs on em for the 9007 bulb before installing 'em, jw if this housing is good for HID's in the future..?
ps i know ppl have gotten lookalikes off ebay of these headlights, i'll post up pics when i'm installing etc if anyone is curious about them.. i know i'm still curious to see how it'll turn out

[BenStoked]

Originally Posted by Garf

http://www.andysautosport.com/nissan...i00149777.html
I ordered these headlights already, and i'm going to shave the nubs on em for the 9007 bulb before installing 'em, jw if this housing is good for HID's in the future..?
ps i know ppl have gotten lookalikes off ebay of these headlights, i'll post up pics when i'm installing etc if anyone is curious about them.. i know i'm still curious to see how it'll turn out

good for hids, bad for 9004/7; no texture (whatever it's called) to break up the beam. hids shouldn't have them, 900x needs them.

[internetautomar]

Originally Posted by BenStoked

good for hids, bad for 9004/7; no texture (whatever it's called) to break up the beam. hids shouldn't have them, 900x needs them.

diffuser?

[Garf]

k thanks, well i'll just have to wait for those lights to come in then i'll go from there and post pics.

[BenStoked]

Originally Posted by internetautomar

diffuser?

that word.

[CapedCadaver]

Originally Posted by Garf

http://www.andysautosport.com/nissan...i00149777.html
I ordered these headlights already, and i'm going to shave the nubs on em for the 9007 bulb before installing 'em, jw if this housing is good for HID's in the future..?
ps i know ppl have gotten lookalikes off ebay of these headlights, i'll post up pics when i'm installing etc if anyone is curious about them.. i know i'm still curious to see how it'll turn out

those are THE WORST for HIDs if you just plop the bulb in the back, so unless you feel like doing a projector retro then hold off on the HIDs until you do feel like doing it.

[Garf]

Originally Posted by CapedCadaver

those are THE WORST for HIDs if you just plop the bulb in the back, so unless you feel like doing a projector retro then hold off on the HIDs until you do feel like doing it.

haha alright, yea i haven't bought any HID's or anything yet, i was going to wait till those headlights came in, see how they are with 9004's, then try 9007 swap and later experiment with HID's. don't worry i'm taking my time to tinker with these thingers

[CapedCadaver]

Originally Posted by Garf

haha alright, yea i haven't bought any HID's or anything yet, i was going to wait till those headlights came in, see how they are with 9004's, then try 9007 swap and later experiment with HID's. don't worry i'm taking my time to tinker with these thingers

i mean.. even for regular lights, they are going to be godawful... they are designed for car shows, not for use on the roads. Without the diffusers, the light doesn't get aimed at all.. so half the light is gonna go up (and into other drivers' eyes).. meaning in order to aim them low enough so as not to blind people, you're gonna be pointing the majority of the light right in front of your bumper, not down the road. Output from the stock headlight is gonna be sort of flatter and wider than the ebay one.. so even if the pure percentage of light that gets out of the non-diffused cover is higher, the percent of the light that you can use will be smaller.

cliffs: retro into euro style > stock > horse manure > euro style

[BenStoked]

dang it. I confused HID with projectors. sorry to add to the confusion...

[NaCL]

So the stock bulb size in our car is 9004??

[Greeny]

yes, stock bulb is 9004.

[GAMERA30]

[quote=Greeny;4825999]Yes,the 9007 is 55 watt low beam/65 watt high beam..Compared to 9004/ 45 watt low beam/65 watt high beam..

Just curious. Being that the wattage is higher, wont there be a risk of burning the wires or the switch ???... I had a friend who put those cheap 80/100w bulbs in his Max and thats what happened..

[Greeny]

Originally Posted by GAMERA30

Just curious. Being that the wattage is higher, wont there be a risk of burning the wires or the switch ???... I had a friend who put those cheap 80/100w bulbs in his Max and thats what happened..

I had this upgrade done on both maximas for many years with no problrms. I live in a rural area, so i use my brights alot, again never had any issues. the 10 extra watts is just not enough to cause overheating.

[internetautomar]

Originally Posted by Greeny

I had this upgrade done on both maximas for many years with no problrms. I live in a rural area, so i use my brights alot, again never had any issues. the 10 extra watts is just not enough to cause overheating.

brights are same wattage as stock.

the real issue on the 80/100s is that even on low they are pulling more wattage than the factories on high. (80 vs 65)

[Greeny]

Originally Posted by internetautomar

brights are same wattage as stock.

the real issue on the 80/100s is that even on low they are pulling more wattage than the factories on high. (80 vs 65)

true, i got the wrong info on low/high beam ratings on the stock bulbs when first made this thread. I got the info from the 9007 upgrade thread from the 4th gen section, i guess i should have verified it via google.

9004= 45/65

9007= 55/65

correct?

[internetautomar]

i think so.

[autobotguy]

Well after almost 2 years I finally got a pair of GE Nighthawk 30+ bulbs to try against the Philips Hi-Visibility 30+ bulbs and I think the difference is noticeable. However, I've had the Philips bulbs in my Maxima for a little over 2 years so the difference in brightness could be just due to bulb wear.

Anyways, here are some pics....
Low Beams


High Beams

[Darkwing48]

Your high beams looks like one ghost Pacman chasing another. I like it.

[abrahams600]

Does this burn up the wiring?

[autobotguy]

I've had no issues with wiring and I've had this 9007 mod for about 2 years. The only time you'd need to upgrade headlight wiring is when you go for the super high wattage bulbs.