DA-MAX

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you should really wait for Aaron to finish testing....from what I know he's basically editing/correcting his maps from scratch which is almost impossible to get right without using an RPM tracing wideband....I'm currently setting up Redmax's Greddy Emanage and am going thorugh the exact same thing. Aaron said hes getting a wideband this week, so he should be able to trace the A/F really well now and get it to around 13-13.25...n/a tuning(and turbo tuning for that) is rather simple concept once you understand the representation on the maps in relation to the A/F curve.

N34JZ

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I just wouldnt want to mess anything up lol

N34JZ

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i faxed Millennium all these questions and some info about the z32 ecu andthe zemulator and I sent them a link to check that page out so I can get their opinion on it.

Aaron92SE

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Correction on everybody's quotes:... Aaron HAD problems. I am not HAVING problems. There's a difference.

Yes, I had o2 sensor problems. One bank was rich while the other was lean. I fixed that easily. It's something Ash can do to the ECU before it even gets shipped to you. For me, I just did my own soldering and research.

The other problem is the fuel temp sensor. VEs don't have one. I fixed that by doing some more soldering inside the ECU. Again, that is something Ash can do, so don't ever have to worry about it.

Other than that, this Zemulator works great in my car. I get my wideband o2 sensor today or tomorrow, so I will be able to tune my car perfectly. I have some wierd stumbling on the freeway, but that's definitely b/c I am lean in those areas. Something like 17:1 AF ratio. In the other areas, I am probably WAY too rich. RICH is good since it will run smoothly and not mess up much. LEAN is bad since it stumbles terribly, won't run, will stall on you, cause permanent damage to major and expensive engine components.

So right now, I am very rich. In the next few days, I will write a program for ideal AF ratio for MY car. Very nice.

Jeff92se

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Why would it run lean on higher boost if the FPR is boost referenced?

subs1000w

i think at some point around 9 or 10 psi the stock injectors get maxed out

you figure youve got an 8:1 fmu disc at 8 psi boost that = 64 psi on top of stock WOT which is 43psi which = 107 psi of fuel pressure i believe stock injecters lock up around 120psi so at 8psi the stockers are already being pushed way to hard and are no longer accurate in the amount of fuel there sending into the motor so any more boost than that and your screwed

of course MTcookson isnt having lean problems because his injectors are made for a boosted engine and are larger

N34JZ

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I just talked to Millennium again, at this point I think the route Im going to be going and they had no problem with is Im going to provide most of the part because I think I can find them online cheaper than they would end up charging me. so they said with me providing pretty much everything other than the piping, manifold, exhaust, and heat wrap they would install it and tune it for around $2600

I also spoke to them about using the zemulator and z32 ecu and he said they have no problem tuning with that.

also he said he's been getting alot of calls from the org and they may massproduce a kit, because of the intrest.

icepick

every on grab a phone and call. a kit = cheaper prices

subs1000w

by maniphold do you mean there going to make new exhaust manipholds or are you just calling the reverse ypipe the turbo manifold

that price is decent

you should easily be able to put together the rest of the stuff for around 1000 to 2000$ but if you get the z emulator its going to be more like 1500 to 2500$ although thats what i would do

you figure baseline on the mid to high side of pricing

650 for the turbo
300 for the 370cc injectors used
150 for the blow off valve
200 wastegate
100 fuel pump
300 whatever you want to call it cooler
75 z32 ecu used
75 z32 MAF used
750 Zemulator
=2600$ but your prices will very greatly depending on where you get the stuff if oyu buy it new or used

N34JZ

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new manifold not a reverse Y

DA-MAX

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why are they doing a manifold now rather then the reverse Y setup they did on Maxtuned setup?? if you haven't, you really should clarify that they know EXCATLY what the differences are(between manifold and reverse Y)

dmontzsta

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That is more my style also.

If they can sale just the piping that would be great, I think it is a long drive for some I would buy the piping and then slowly buy the parts. Then drive to JWT and have them tune it they are an hour away from me.

N34JZ

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well eddie (maxtuned) said his isnt a reverse Y set up, and when I spoke to Brian he kept refering to the manifolds, I thought I heard correct but I could be wrong

N34JZ

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yeah they were talking about just selling the piping to people.

DA-MAX

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well there is a misunderstanding some where between all of us...these pics scream reverse Y to me-->

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=278156&page=4

N34JZ

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I just read what he posted, in the begining of the thread I didnt see the newer pics.


really Im a newb when it comes to this stuff, I plan on learning as much as possible between now and then .

mtcookson

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have fun! http://www.mjmturbos.com/CarTurboDescription.html

have a **** load of fun!! http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cheaptur...t3w63artu.html

if you're looking for a turbo the top link has a crap load of them.

N34JZ

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yeah Da-max told me about cheapturbo.com they have some good prices there.
what are you guys opinions on a good size?

mtcookson

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for our engines a t3/t4 with a .63 a/r on the turbine should spool pretty well (especially on ve's since they flow better than the vg). then you just have to decide what kind of power you want and decide on the compressor from there.

N34JZ

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here what I came up with so far

Turbo: $550 Found this one. Any thoughts?
BOV: $185
Wastegate: $215
Fuel pump: $100
Turbo Timer: $100
Injectors: $200
Muffler $75
Gauges: $550

total= $1975

+ piping, heat wrap, Intercooler, labor, tuning.: $~2600

$4575
+ Zemulator and all the z32 stuff $1000-1500

so around $6000 for everything if my math is correct.

subs1000w

so the 2600$ includes the intercooler

what gauges are you thinking of getting

N34JZ

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yeah $2600 with the intercooler, I really like the greddy
The white ones I can probably find them cheaper somewhere other than Greddy, or I could also just stick with my autometers for a while since Ive already got them, all I would need is the boost gauge.

subs1000w

i like the greddy ones to but i wish that they had both standerd and metric i hate to have to learn all the convertions and such

mtcookson

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if you're wanting to save a bit more you can find a bov and wastegate for much cheaper. the 1st gen dsm bov is a very well made bov. it will handle lots of pressure and they are very cheap. i believe i got a hold of mine for 35 bucks. if you have trouble with the car stalling when you let off the gas (bov letting out metered air) you can put a tube on it since it's techincally a recirculation valve.

for the wastegate i've seen some turbonetics wastegates floating around ebay for less than 200 dollars so you may scan ebay ever once in a whlie.

N34JZ

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yeah Brian reccomended the new turbonetics evo wastegate I havent checked that out though. And I also wish the Greddy gauges came in both scales, Im gonna look at apex gauges but Im pretty sure the'll be the same way plus they only come 60mm and larger.

DA-MAX

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Turbonetics WGs = in my book the old very Deltagates were prone to leaking and since then I ONLY swear by Tial 35 or 38mm...things might have changed now, but its up to you

MT is right...hehe...DSM 1G BOV, the only way to go, cheap and effective

mtcookson

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i do agree on the turbonetics. i would generally stay away from them. on mine, they say sometimes carbon bulid up can make them stick but its not that hard to fix so i figured i'd just grab it since it was only 175 bucks and had never been used. its a deltagate mark III.

on the dsm bov's there's also a mod for high boost... which isn't really needed since those things will handle much more boost than a stock max can take but here it is anyways http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_bov_mod.html

supposed to make it release quicker. i may try it sometime.

N34JZ

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He told me the newer design was much better but Im probably gonna go with the tial in the link you sent me, thats the best price Ive seen so far

evilvamp7

i did talk to Milliniumauto they said that they never took the measurment from that maxima so they want a maxima over there to get the measurment if any body live by there plzzzzz go and give what ever they want man

N34JZ

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well Ill be down there in the spring. Im pretty sure there gonna wanna install it on the car so I dont think anyone can just drive there and let them pull out a tape measure for five minutes and be done.

DA-MAX

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hey let me know when...I wouldn't mind coming thorugh to see it happen!

N34JZ

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yeah of course. Im really shooting for mid June right now like the 2nd or third week. So long as nothing big breaks on my car.

D-sta

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Me too, I would be down to watch the process Jason .

N34JZ

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well Im gonna need a ride down there to srop the car off, mabey we can take your beater. lol

D-sta

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LoL. The beater its nice but nonetheless a beater lol. Well yea no prob and maybe even Eric would be down to go if in the time you are going he has time. Staying at Virginia should be fun at Da Holiday Inn That **** was guy but you get my point.

Maximan190

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i thought john had the beater

D-sta

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John's car is the beater Well if you go then I guess you'll probably just be interested in feeling the clutch instead of the turbo.

N34JZ

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Im droping the car off though and then picking it up, I gotta work while there doing it.