200hp??
05-24-2005, 04:25 AM
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LOL
Yes all we do need is a turbo or supercharger and thats "not" too expensive? I think the last time I checked for a retail supercharger for a maxima, it costs like $4000US! Thats worth like 3/4 of what I paid to get my 97 Maxima SE. If we could afford to spend that much more on a car, why not buy a more capable sports car..Say a 300ZX.
Yes all we do need is a turbo or supercharger and thats "not" too expensive? I think the last time I checked for a retail supercharger for a maxima, it costs like $4000US! Thats worth like 3/4 of what I paid to get my 97 Maxima SE. If we could afford to spend that much more on a car, why not buy a more capable sports car..Say a 300ZX.
05-24-2005, 05:14 AM
#7
The reason why you don't put it in a 300zx is because you want to have the sleeper look.
Nobody would expect a Maxima to be Turbo/SC.
Just imagine the look on people's face when you blow by them.
Nobody would expect a Maxima to be Turbo/SC.
Just imagine the look on people's face when you blow by them.
05-24-2005, 05:43 AM
#10
bleh its the same why NA 300zx's can't cross the 200hp barrier either.
Our cars are ~140HP at the wheels stock, so to cross 200HP you'd need a 43% gain in power, which is next to rediculous with boltons.
Again, SC, NOS, Turbo = done deal.
Our cars are ~140HP at the wheels stock, so to cross 200HP you'd need a 43% gain in power, which is next to rediculous with boltons.
Again, SC, NOS, Turbo = done deal.
05-24-2005, 06:26 AM
#14
What he said was very general, maybe for an auto with a dead knock sensor.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=156548
Typically about 150 +/-5 for autos and 160+/-5 for 5M's
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=156548
Typically about 150 +/-5 for autos and 160+/-5 for 5M's
05-24-2005, 06:30 AM
#15
Originally Posted by liquidx
I've been wondering what our car is at the wheels - stock. Does a dyno test horse power at the wheels?
05-24-2005, 06:36 AM
#16
Originally Posted by liquidx
Is there anyone on this thread that lives near boston? I'd be interested to hear what mods you've done and how you've dealt with the winters...
05-24-2005, 08:23 AM
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So I've got a 95SE, 5-speed, with 58,600 mostly highway miles on it. I have a stainless steel Budget y-pipe and K&N panel filter. If I added a Budget b-pipe and a TS or JWT ecu, approximately what hp would I be pushing at the wheels. How much more would a UDP give me? It strikes me that combo would be getting close to 200 at the wheels.
05-24-2005, 09:00 AM
#18
so if u add a warpspeed or budget ypipe to ur car and the maxima comes with 190 hp why wouldnt it make it 200hp when the ypipe is suppose to add 10-15 hp? then plus all those other bolt ons.. SOrry if its a dumb question.
05-24-2005, 09:02 AM
#19
Originally Posted by cefiro8701
yea...it seems like we need so many bolt ons...just to get what our listed hp...(i know crank and wheel are different)...i just wished that we got more hp easier...
05-24-2005, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by maxiquin
so if u add a warpspeed or budget ypipe to ur car and the maxima comes with 190 hp why wouldnt it make it 200hp when the ypipe is suppose to add 10-15 hp? then plus all those other bolt ons.. SOrry if its a dumb question.
because in the real world we look at power at the wheels, not the crank. The motor makes 190hp, but then add the drive train loss, wheels/tires, PS, AC....and the power to the wheels is about 160-165 for a stock 5spd Maxima. What really counts is the power being put down to the ground.
05-24-2005, 09:10 AM
#21
Between rmurdoch posting his mods and mileage in every other thread, and people thinking that all 190 hp gets to the wheels gives me a headache.
I'm jsut jelous of rmurdoch's mileage that's all, but the 190hp ... manual trannys take ~15-18% drivetrain loss, and autos take ~20% ...
I'm jsut jelous of rmurdoch's mileage that's all, but the 190hp ... manual trannys take ~15-18% drivetrain loss, and autos take ~20% ...
05-24-2005, 09:21 AM
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My intention wasn't to make you jealous and I was talking about hp to the wheels. Perhaps I'm not being clear, what I was getting at is I'm considering doing what I stated doing above, but probably not the UDP. It strikes me that the combo would get me close to 200 hp and I thought I'd ask the question.
Why be jealous of me, I only own one Maxima not 2? I won't state my mileage anymore. I don't know why I do. There is no need for me to emphasize that I have one of the lowest mileage 4th Gens in North America as its not for sale now and won't be anytime soon, so I will cease and desist.
Why be jealous of me, I only own one Maxima not 2? I won't state my mileage anymore. I don't know why I do. There is no need for me to emphasize that I have one of the lowest mileage 4th Gens in North America as its not for sale now and won't be anytime soon, so I will cease and desist.
05-24-2005, 09:40 AM
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Maybe that's the way to go, because I priced the Budget b-pipe almost a year ago when I bought the Budget y and it was only going to add about 5whp and would cost slightly more than the Budget y, which isn't a particularly good bang for the buck.
You can't be all that bad, NmexMAX, aren't you the guy that I was liaising with a few months ago about stories of my dad's 1967 Mustang back in the old muscle car days? Maybe it was someone else.
You can't be all that bad, NmexMAX, aren't you the guy that I was liaising with a few months ago about stories of my dad's 1967 Mustang back in the old muscle car days? Maybe it was someone else.
05-24-2005, 09:53 AM
#25
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
My intention wasn't to make you jealous and I was talking about hp to the wheels. Perhaps I'm not being clear, what I was getting at is I'm considering doing what I stated doing above, but probably not the UDP. It strikes me that the combo would get me close to 200 hp and I thought I'd ask the question.
05-24-2005, 10:09 AM
#26
200hp
Hey liquidx I'm in Framingham that is abou 30 or 40 minutes from Boston but I have made it to the Aiport in about 20 min ...there are not many Maximas hook up around here I have seing one or two but none with body kits only mufflers and rims my is ruby red and with 18's and a skyline kit and a big wing on the back and ofcourse many upgrates !!!!!! Hey may be I'll see you on 495 or 95 !!!!
05-24-2005, 10:45 AM
#29
rmurdoch
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
Your lucky if a complete catback gives you 5whp.
maxinitout
How do you know you have 265 at the flywheel?
Did you dyno it or are you just adding the suggested HP numbers given from the part manufactures?
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
Your lucky if a complete catback gives you 5whp.
maxinitout
How do you know you have 265 at the flywheel?
Did you dyno it or are you just adding the suggested HP numbers given from the part manufactures?
05-24-2005, 10:53 AM
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[QUOTE=FLAVOR_24/7]rmurdoch
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
Your lucky if a complete catback gives you 5whp.
All the more reason not to buy one I guess. I'm just going by what I've gleaned on the .org before.
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
Your lucky if a complete catback gives you 5whp.
All the more reason not to buy one I guess. I'm just going by what I've gleaned on the .org before.
05-24-2005, 10:55 AM
#31
Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
rmurdoch
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
I really do not see a B pipe giving you 5 whp.
Well, now you can see it!
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522
+ 8whp
+ 10wtq
05-24-2005, 11:00 AM
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I believe the dyno run of the aftermarket b-pipe is a version without a resonator and is peak hp. The Budget y-pipe I am considering would have the resonator and I wouldn't expect the same results shown on the motorvate.ca dyno run with the JPG b-pipe. Consequently 5 whp may still be in the ballpark.
05-24-2005, 11:08 AM
#35
Originally Posted by DR-Max
Why??? Because this car was intended as a family sedan, not a racer. Still, its not too hard to get 200 if you have the $$$ and the knowledge. You need to read the stickies my friend.
Originally Posted by maxinitout
i have 265 at the flywheel i don't kno how much at the wheels. i have a venom 400, evo2 cat-back exhaust and a ingen cold air so.........its not hard at all
05-24-2005, 11:12 AM
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Typo - I stated above I was considering a Budget b-pipe. I have a Budget y-pipe already.
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
I believe the dyno run of the aftermarket b-pipe is a version without a resonator and is peak hp. The Budget y-pipe I am considering would have the resonator and I wouldn't expect the same results shown on the motorvate.ca dyno run with the JPG b-pipe. Consequently 5 whp may still be in the ballpark.
05-24-2005, 11:20 AM
#38
Originally Posted by rmurdoch
My intention wasn't to make you jealous and I was talking about hp to the wheels. Perhaps I'm not being clear, what I was getting at is I'm considering doing what I stated doing above, but probably not the UDP. It strikes me that the combo would get me close to 200 hp and I thought I'd ask the question.
Why be jealous of me, I only own one Maxima not 2? I won't state my mileage anymore. I don't know why I do. There is no need for me to emphasize that I have one of the lowest mileage 4th Gens in North America as its not for sale now and won't be anytime soon, so I will cease and desist.
Why be jealous of me, I only own one Maxima not 2? I won't state my mileage anymore. I don't know why I do. There is no need for me to emphasize that I have one of the lowest mileage 4th Gens in North America as its not for sale now and won't be anytime soon, so I will cease and desist.
......... But seriously, it sucks we cant get our cars above 200WHP without going FI or spraying.......ahh well... turbo it is 
05-24-2005, 11:32 AM
#40
Originally Posted by ewuzh
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