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08-24-2004, 10:52 AM
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Sticky the 5-speed conversion
Dosen't sarin and someone else(sorry If I left anyone out) have a write-up on here for the 5-speed conversion. Can we get it stickied? I'll be reading up on it for awhile.
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08-24-2004, 11:33 AM
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You doing this before or after the turbo and stand alone engine management?
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08-24-2004, 11:49 AM
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You doing this before or after the turbo and stand alone engine management?
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Before the turbo
Stand alone comes last

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08-24-2004, 11:51 AM
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I'm needing a caw
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Right. 
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08-24-2004, 11:57 AM
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I dont think Sarin gave me a post on it with a write up. I remember asking him but I dont know if it was ever posted.
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08-24-2004, 12:02 PM
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Ill post a link if I find one. I thought someone wrote it on here.
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08-24-2004, 01:36 PM
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There's this link in the 4th gen FAQ's:
http://www.fastmaxima.com/5spd_conversion.htm
I'm sure you've seen it before though.
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08-24-2004, 02:10 PM
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I can make a write up, I just haven't had time to do one....I also need to put one up of the 5-lug conversion as well. The one turboast4 posted is a good one...oddly our setup are almost identical if you don't include the wiring and clutch lines.
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
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08-24-2004, 02:30 PM
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Yeah, Ive seen that one before.
I just didn't know how closely a 2nd gen could follow those instructions. I know there was someone else who did this for the 2nd gen. I just can't find it right now.
Disclaimer:
Before anyone has a heart attack from this post. Im just curious! I want to know how much is involved and how long it takes. This dosen't mean that Im going to do it. So if anyone has a problem with this U R 
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08-24-2004, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Drjmaxx88
Yeah, Ive seen that one before.
I just didn't know how closely a 2nd gen could follow those instructions. I know there was someone else who did this for the 2nd gen. I just can't find it right now.
Disclaimer:
Before anyone has a heart attack from this post. Im just curious! I want to know how much is involved and how long it takes. This dosen't mean that Im going to do it. So if anyone has a problem with this U R 
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Dwayne...your so  for asking that question....I should drop kick your a$$!
j/k
To do this job, I'd say it'd take me about 2 days to do it. But I would say budget about 5 days to do the work. Basically the job is labor intensive. It's not too hard, but it is also nice to have at least 2-3 sets of hands.
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
Past:
86 SE - MOTM
97 GXE SC'er - RIP 10/12/08
http://www.nwmaxima.com
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08-25-2004, 09:17 AM
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Cool thanx.
My parents want me to get rid of the max now. I wanted to see what I could do with the trany first. If it stays auto then I will probably keep driving it. If I swap it to manual my lil bro can have a car to learn to drive stick with. Maybe Ill make him help me with this.
I take it that a parts car is needed.
So sarin the 2nd gen bellhousing for the manual is needed but I can use the internals from 85-94 right?
Hopefully I can find a manual trany that will work. The bone yards out here make for slim pickins.
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08-25-2004, 09:41 AM
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Damn dude, seems like a waste to me if you're going to all the trouble of swapping the tranny and giving it to your younger bro.....
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08-25-2004, 10:23 AM
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You can use the internals from 85-01, granted you have the 85-94(I believe maybe 91) bellhousing. You will need to transfer some parts, (speed sensor, shift linkage maybe different and make sure you have the correct mounts).
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08-25-2004, 11:07 AM
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My bro just turned 18 he needs a ride. He hates the max, but a car is a car. I know he'll drive it if its manual. I want to head to mexico and see about getting a trany(auto or manual). They're pretty cheap down there.
Dont the manuals have one more mount, ill check when I get home.
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08-25-2004, 11:44 AM
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man if your brother dosnt like the max i dont even think his going to take car of it.
and going to mexico for a tranny i dont think it would be a good idea. remember the saying u get what u pay for. im say it not a good idea cuzz some of the ppl in mexico dont relly take good care of the cars, (thats my opinon) just rebild it for like 500-550 dollers thats what they charg in my area. save your self some mony and take it of your self.
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08-25-2004, 12:09 PM
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The car will still be mine. But he needs it till he gets his ride. I've been telling him how fast it is. I don't go too fast with him in the car. But he needs it and since I just got a car, why not(aside from the trany blowing).
Besides if I get him into fixing it, Ill have one more set of hands to help me.
Trust me he'll take care of the car...or else 
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08-25-2004, 01:21 PM
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My suggestion, is if you do try to find a 5-speed, look for the 89-91 vintage.  I have an 89 tranny in it, and I love gearing, as well as better final gear (helps put a little bit more torque down to the ground).
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
Past:
86 SE - MOTM
97 GXE SC'er - RIP 10/12/08
http://www.nwmaxima.com
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08-25-2004, 06:41 PM
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did the 89 tranny bolt right in including the mount and the axels or did u have to do some modifiying
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08-25-2004, 07:09 PM
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Sarin, was your car previously an auto?
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08-25-2004, 08:31 PM
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Nope, my original 5-speed main bearings went out.
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
Past:
86 SE - MOTM
97 GXE SC'er - RIP 10/12/08
http://www.nwmaxima.com
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08-25-2004, 11:47 PM
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Nope, my original 5-speed main bearings went out.
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hmm, k.. was just trying to figure out the rear rotors.
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08-26-2004, 01:23 PM
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lol, that still has ya stumped huh?
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08-26-2004, 04:52 PM
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lol, that still has ya stumped huh?
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yup... because other than the VG20ET U11, AFAIK the U11 runs 10"..
o well, I'll just call it a gift from above and call it a day. 
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08-26-2004, 09:53 PM
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lol, that works
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01-16-2005, 06:17 AM
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sry to bring back this old post but did we ever get th at Gen 2 Tranny Swap writeup?
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01-16-2005, 10:58 AM
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No, but the link posted for the consersion for a 4th gen is very similar to the 2nd gen with a few differences.
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
Past:
86 SE - MOTM
97 GXE SC'er - RIP 10/12/08
http://www.nwmaxima.com
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01-17-2005, 01:49 PM
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yea that link isn't working for me
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06-17-2005, 10:45 PM
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so how hard would it be to go from an auto to a 5-speed???? 
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06-18-2005, 11:33 PM
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Depends....how smart are you?
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02 GLE - Majestic Blue/Frost Leather
6k D2R HID - AE/Clear Headlights - 3k HID fogs w/Lexus Capsules - Exterior LED's - AE Tails
Smoked Sidemarkers - 15% tint - G35 Coupe 18's - Short Ram Intake
Past:
86 SE - MOTM
97 GXE SC'er - RIP 10/12/08
http://www.nwmaxima.com
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06-19-2005, 07:04 AM
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You'll need the tranny of course, and the flywheel with clutch and pressure plate, the slave cylinder, lines and clutch master and reservoir, the pedal assembly, the shifter and linkage, the center console trim and boot, and you'll have to splice together the wires that went to the starter lockout switch. A few things I'm not sure on though, you might need the speedo cable too, and the cv shafts should be the same but I'm not positive.
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06-23-2005, 01:03 AM
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How long would it take?
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06-23-2005, 05:02 PM
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A person skilled with the 2nd gen...2 days tops...maybe even a day. For someone that has some mechanical inclination....but doesn't really know what they are doing...as long as 3 weeks. Average time...5 days.
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