1/4 and 1/8 Mile RacingTalk about track times, launch techniques, strategies, etc. Check out the "Timeslips" subforum for posted times.No discussion of street racing will be tolerated.
Welcome to Maxima.org!
Welcome to Maxima.org,
You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access
to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join Maxima.org today!
Took it out to the Wicked HP E.T. Bracket Series last night. Most of them V8s, so the chance of victory for me was slim to none as I run mine N/A. Anyway 1st two runs were in the 16s. 1st run agains a LT1 camaro and second against an older Chevy truck who pretty much smoked my ***.
However, while racing a Z33 during the third and final time, I managed to grab a 14.48 ET (car #199). Needless to say, the Z beat me to the finish line (but not by much).
Conditions were: altitude - 2200'
about 85 degrees
less than 20% relative humidity I'm sure
This was my second time at the track, therefore, I am still getting used to the process. I couldn't adjust to the grinding gears and ****ty clutch. Need HLSD tranny, new clutch and flywheel ASAP!!! Overall, I had a great time!! Will work on improving my R/T. Now I understand when people say that you will never be happy with their current quarter mile time. The need to go faster awaits me.
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
your 60' was 1.027?!? Uhhh something is wrong here. Did you stage with your back wheels? Even still that would be a impossible 60' with your car..
The DA explains the sluggish times..converted I bet they are pretty good.
EDIT: Your 60' and R/T got switched on your slip I almost guarentee..2.27 60' you need some more practice not just LSD/tires..
Like I said, this was my 2nd time at it. Of course I need more practice.
I only mentioned clutch and tranny as I experienced grinding, especially going into 3rd.
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
idk, things just dont add up to me, but then again it is bracket racing and i may not understand it fully. so be patient with me. obviously u werent on the brakes, but u trapped 90? or is that what cars do at your elevation/location. the other car trapped 92, so he couldve been on the brakes but not really cuz u were with him or beating him the whole time according to the slip so why would he do that. then he runs a 13.2, or is that a 15.2? but u said he won, and the slip says he won by almost a second. im so confused. lol
__________________ The FIRST AWD Maxima'97 Black/Black SE 5 Speed: DEK swap, K&N, Budget Y, Budget Test Pipe, Budget B, Dynomax Muffler, Exedy Clutch, Shortened shifter, Mustang GT shift knob, Smoked Red/Clears, AE'd Headlights, Yellow Fogs, Ebay FSTB, Ionic front Lip, Intrax Springs, 17in G35 Coupes.....EManage Ultimate!
idk, things just dont add up to me, but then again it is bracket racing and i may not understand it fully. so be patient with me. obviously u werent on the brakes, but u trapped 90? or is that what cars do at your elevation/location. the other car trapped 92, so he couldve been on the brakes but not really cuz u were with him or beating him the whole time according to the slip so why would he do that. then he runs a 13.2, or is that a 15.2? but u said he won, and the slip says he won by almost a second. im so confused. lol
That's one thing I wasn't sure. If he finished 1st, how could he run a slower quarter mile of 15.28?
Could the numbers be way off
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
yeah, imma go out on a limb (and be a jerk, sorry) and say you ran somewhere around a 15.6 instead. the one thing that is accurate no matter what is the winning margin, which is .945. so you flip your r/t and your 60 ft, which makes sense, and you add that difference of 1.2 to all of your numbers. u end up with a 15.6ish. All of your numbers then make sense compared to your opponent, and the r/t difference of .5 plus the e.t. difference of .4 equal the final margin of victory. thats what makes sense in my head anyways....
__________________ The FIRST AWD Maxima'97 Black/Black SE 5 Speed: DEK swap, K&N, Budget Y, Budget Test Pipe, Budget B, Dynomax Muffler, Exedy Clutch, Shortened shifter, Mustang GT shift knob, Smoked Red/Clears, AE'd Headlights, Yellow Fogs, Ebay FSTB, Ionic front Lip, Intrax Springs, 17in G35 Coupes.....EManage Ultimate!
He can run a slower quarter mile time because he left before you did (thus the lower R/T). If you run a 14.5 with a 1.0 R/T that means he could run a 15.0 with a .500 R/T and effectively cross the line at the same time that you did. Because your R/T does not affect your 1/4 mile time you can still be beaten to the line by a slower 1/4 mile time. Also if you are bracket racing he is going to beat you to the line if he runs closer to his dial-in than you do, this is the only time your R/T means anything really..
__________________ 96 Probe GT- 300whp n/a...450+ on bottle...2600lbs..sounds fun, huh?
02 Maxima -80k, 6 spd, 214whp/233wtq 5.5 gen Stock ET/Trap records? 14.01 @ 99.77mph 2.14 60ft. STOCK! And getting lower..
yeah, imma go out on a limb (and be a jerk, sorry) and say you ran somewhere around a 15.6 instead. the one thing that is accurate no matter what is the winning margin, which is .945. so you flip your r/t and your 60 ft, which makes sense, and you add that difference of 1.2 to all of your numbers. u end up with a 15.6ish. All of your numbers then make sense compared to your opponent, and the r/t difference of .5 plus the e.t. difference of .4 equal the final margin of victory. thats what makes sense in my head anyways....
Good theory!! Difficult to know the exact truth however.
Will have to go out there again in two weeks and set things straight.....
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
yeah, imma go out on a limb (and be a jerk, sorry) and say you ran somewhere around a 15.6 instead. the one thing that is accurate no matter what is the winning margin, which is .945. so you flip your r/t and your 60 ft, which makes sense, and you add that difference of 1.2 to all of your numbers. u end up with a 15.6ish. All of your numbers then make sense compared to your opponent, and the r/t difference of .5 plus the e.t. difference of .4 equal the final margin of victory. thats what makes sense in my head anyways....
If they are bracket racing and he lost to a slower ET car, tha means that guy ran a better (closer to dial-in) time than he did. The times are still correct but the other guy got a head start b/c of a slower dial-in..this is what happened I almost guarentee it.
__________________ 96 Probe GT- 300whp n/a...450+ on bottle...2600lbs..sounds fun, huh?
02 Maxima -80k, 6 spd, 214whp/233wtq 5.5 gen Stock ET/Trap records? 14.01 @ 99.77mph 2.14 60ft. STOCK! And getting lower..
oh snap....thats right, i forgot one car leaves ahead of the other...my theory made perfect sense but only if you both left at the same time. thats weird tho how that worked. nevermind my thinking
__________________ The FIRST AWD Maxima'97 Black/Black SE 5 Speed: DEK swap, K&N, Budget Y, Budget Test Pipe, Budget B, Dynomax Muffler, Exedy Clutch, Shortened shifter, Mustang GT shift knob, Smoked Red/Clears, AE'd Headlights, Yellow Fogs, Ebay FSTB, Ionic front Lip, Intrax Springs, 17in G35 Coupes.....EManage Ultimate!
He can run a slower quarter mile time because he left before you did (thus the lower R/T). If you run a 14.5 with a 1.0 R/T that means he could run a 15.0 with a .500 R/T and effectively cross the line at the same time that you did. Because your R/T does not affect your 1/4 mile time you can still be beaten to the line by a slower 1/4 mile time. Also if you are bracket racing he is going to beat you to the line if he runs closer to his dial-in than you do, this is the only time your R/T means anything really..
True.. You both have some valid points. I am sticking to my original time slip. I plan on being in the 13s next time (with 100 octane of course).
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
my bad OP, it slipped my mind that one car leaves first. I was here doing all kinds of math, and it all came out almost perfect...which is crazy. sorry for trying to burst your bubble.
__________________ The FIRST AWD Maxima'97 Black/Black SE 5 Speed: DEK swap, K&N, Budget Y, Budget Test Pipe, Budget B, Dynomax Muffler, Exedy Clutch, Shortened shifter, Mustang GT shift knob, Smoked Red/Clears, AE'd Headlights, Yellow Fogs, Ebay FSTB, Ionic front Lip, Intrax Springs, 17in G35 Coupes.....EManage Ultimate!
my bad OP, it slipped my mind that one car leaves first. I was here doing all kinds of math, and it all came out almost perfect...which is crazy. sorry for trying to burst your bubble.
No worries... It wasn't like the best time anyway... I just felt good about it as it was my 2nd time out there.
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
So the question is...........what did you dial in at?
BTW if your bracket racing it wouldn't matter if all the cars there were V8s. When I left the Bandimere Tuner Mayhem there as a Corolla running 18seconds that was deep into the brackets. She made it to at least round 5. I was knocked out in the 2nd round because I ran faster than my dail in time.
14.4 @ 90 mph? Seems like you slowed down alot towards the end, what is your best mph? And the 1 something 60 foot threw me off. LOL!!
__________________ 321VQ35MAX - 03 Black 6spd T.E - Injen CAI-Tein S Tech Springs - Tokico Illuminas - Clear Markers- ES Shifter bushings - ES subframe bushings - ES mount inserts
The whole time slip is off, I would throw this one out and look at all the other ones you got.. b/c from the sounds of it this one magical run was 1.5 seconds faster than all your other ones? Also, 9.0 1/8th mile at 73mph does not compute unless you were on some crazy slicks.. I've run 9.0 1/8ths in the past with a 2.1X 60ft they require about a 80mph trap.. just trying to give my honest input on this. The altitude/weather and this particular timeslip don't even come close to adding up.. Take her back to the track and get some more runs in to get a better idea of what she's capable of.
__________________ '02 Maxima SE 6MT : Place Racing CAI / Cattman Headers / 2.5" OD Cutout / NWP Spacers / BlockPlate / UDP / ES MM / Exedy OEM Clutch / 6Gen 6MT Trans / 6Gen Brakes / Tokico Illumina / Progress Springs / Progress RSB / 18" SSR Type C /
The whole time slip is off, I would throw this one out and look at all the other ones you got.. b/c from the sounds of it this one magical run was 1.5 seconds faster than all your other ones? Also, 9.0 1/8th mile at 73mph does not compute unless you were on some crazy slicks.. I've run 9.0 1/8ths in the past with a 2.1X 60ft they require about a 80mph trap.. just trying to give my honest input on this. The altitude/weather and this particular timeslip don't even come close to adding up.. Take her back to the track and get some more runs in to get a better idea of what she's capable of.
Looking forward to it...
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
To me the 14.4 @ 90 mph seems off, should have a higher trap speed, unless he slowed down at the end not to break out.
__________________ 321VQ35MAX - 03 Black 6spd T.E - Injen CAI-Tein S Tech Springs - Tokico Illuminas - Clear Markers- ES Shifter bushings - ES subframe bushings - ES mount inserts
Yeah even a big gear muscle car would have a hard time pulling off a 14.4 @ only 90..something does still seem off..I did 14.0 @ 80 and that was with a pretty good 60' so..
__________________ 96 Probe GT- 300whp n/a...450+ on bottle...2600lbs..sounds fun, huh?
02 Maxima -80k, 6 spd, 214whp/233wtq 5.5 gen Stock ET/Trap records? 14.01 @ 99.77mph 2.14 60ft. STOCK! And getting lower..
Yeah even a big gear muscle car would have a hard time pulling off a 14.4 @ only 90..something does still seem off..I did 14.0 @ 80 and that was with a pretty good 60' so..
__________________
SHIFT_LOTS OF OIL
DCMAX current mods- 4th gen intake, 2.5" custom catback, NWP block off plate, 00SE tailight w/overlays, Rewired fog lights, Eyelid, JIC coilovers, FSTB, 3.0 OBX headers, SSIM...
95 White GXE- 15.1 sold... now 14.9 (car next to me in sig)
00 Sterling GXE- 15.0 (ebay intake, exhaust) my next love and beauty (crashed n sold)
02 Sterling GLE- 13.84@100 2.1'
But ok, here are my thoughts on the whole thing. With your DA being so high I can understand the trap speeds being low, however what I don't understand is how your times are corresponding to your MPH...my car has went 14.1 @ 99.71mph in the 1/4...so how you are going 14.4 @ 90 is beyond me...I think that you are in the right lane and that is a race car in the left lane that has let off and got back on then let off got back on then let off. I think the right lane (you) went 15.2 at 92mph...which with your DA being so high would make perfect since. Now this is all just speculation but this is what I believe and that theory would make perfect sense of this whole confusing deal...also could you please post a non-fuzzy pic of the slip??? Because then that way I could be proved wrong and tell you my other theory I have.
Here is a run below from my se-r at HRP, my race weight was 2740lbs and the car made 137whp/126wtq. I ran on 14x6x20 MT slicks as well. For you to run a 2.2x 60' and a 5.5x 330' means your moving at 73-75mph, but your 1/8 trap is lower than that lol . IMHO it could've been timing error at the track, it doesn't happen often but it does. I have time slips of my se-r running 15.1-15.3s @82-84 mph when it runs 91-93mph normally.
But ok, here are my thoughts on the whole thing. With your DA being so high I can understand the trap speeds being low, however what I don't understand is how your times are corresponding to your MPH...my car has went 14.1 @ 99.71mph in the 1/4...so how you are going 14.4 @ 90 is beyond me...I think that you are in the right lane and that is a race car in the left lane that has let off and got back on then let off got back on then let off. I think the right lane (you) went 15.2 at 92mph...which with your DA being so high would make perfect since. Now this is all just speculation but this is what I believe and that theory would make perfect sense of this whole confusing deal...also could you please post a non-fuzzy pic of the slip??? Because then that way I could be proved wrong and tell you my other theory I have.
No need to post another pic of the slip as you already have it in one of your posts.
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
Here is a run below from my se-r at HRP, my race weight was 2740lbs and the car made 137whp/126wtq. I ran on 14x6x20 MT slicks as well. For you to run a 2.2x 60' and a 5.5x 330' means your moving at 73-75mph, but your 1/8 trap is lower than that lol . IMHO it could've been timing error at the track, it doesn't happen often but it does. I have time slips of my se-r running 15.1-15.3s @82-84 mph when it runs 91-93mph normally.
That's a pretty good timeslip! I've done a LOT of bracket racing at The Strip at LVMS. I just broke out my old logbook to refresh my memories.
The track elevation is 2010' at the starting line. Air Density altitude for your run was around 4300 feet. If you come to NC with the air densities I can get in the Fall and Winter time, you'll be running 13.4s. So if you do nothing else to your car, but get to a sea level track in 50 degree weather, you'll be running mid 13s with the same 60 foot.
But, I noticed your 60 foot is incorrect. I've never had a bad timeslip out of my several hundred passes at this track over the years. But I have heard of it happening to others. Did you run any other mid 14 second passes that same evening?
Wait, now that I think of it. I have had one bad timeslip at LVMS before. I remember running a high 15 second 1/4 mile pass with a 105mph trap speed. I normally trapped high 80s. My ET was correct, but the trap speed wasn't.
__________________
NWP Engineering Phenolic Thermal Intake Spacers 10hp and 12ft-lb gain & 40°F temp drop on the VQ35DE
That's a pretty good timeslip! I've done a LOT of bracket racing at The Strip at LVMS. I just broke out my old logbook to refresh my memories.
The track elevation is 2010' at the starting line. Air Density altitude for your run was around 4300 feet. If you come to NC with the air densities I can get in the Fall and Winter time, you'll be running 13.4s. So if you do nothing else to your car, but get to a sea level track in 50 degree weather, you'll be running mid 13s with the same 60 foot.
But, I noticed your 60 foot is incorrect. I've never had a bad timeslip out of my several hundred passes at this track over the years. But I have heard of it happening to others. Did you run any other mid 14 second passes that same evening?
Wait, now that I think of it. I have had one bad timeslip at LVMS before. I remember running a high 15 second 1/4 mile pass with a 105mph trap speed. I normally trapped high 80s. My ET was correct, but the trap speed wasn't.
My other two runs were in the 16s. I am willing to bet this final one should have been around a sec higher. We'll see in two weeks.
__________________
94 F22B2 CD6 G77M 5MT- daily bucket
Will be one day modded 02 A33B KT3 6MT 241whp/227wtq ET...14.480
Interested in owning/operating an automotive repair franchise?
P/M me for details.
Typo 
Linear Mode
