punjabi

I went to Englishtown,NJ yesterday for my 1st time. Manual stifting on all the runs. I was on street tires (Falken Ziex 912's). Tem was bet 43-49 and Humidity around 25-30. I'll post the time slips w/ all the details shortly.
Mods-
-GAB
-DR Mod

Weight Red-
No Spare, jack , and trunk mats

1st run
60' - 2.368
1/4 - 14.640
MPH - 94.96

2nd run Forgot to turn the TCS off
60' - 2.458
1/4 - 14.953
MPH - 93.89

3rd run The car sat for about 2hrs and 45mins before running w/ the hood open and ice bag on the IM. Yes, like an 8sec(N/T) car went about 5 car ahead of me in my lane. Drove around the water but did a burnout for about 3secs. I had the car tq brake at 2200 rmps and as soon as the car start moving i just puched it and for some reason the car hooked like mothaf***er, and just went. I didn't even believe my self and looked at the slip like 4 times. I can launch the car perfect on the st***t tho that all the experience i had, now please don't get at me for mentioning street in the thread.
60 -1.718 - Yes, Street Tires (F - 22 PSI R - 42PSI)
1/4 - 13.772
MPH - 96.18

Link to the time slip and pic of the showing the # 807 on the car. I know i got PB gas card holding the K&N in place cause one of my friend locked the keys in his car and i had use the hanger that i was using to hold the filter in place and then had no time to reshape it again.http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/d...8072622pm2.jpg

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maxima92se

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Crap dude nice times. The 5.5 gens are crazy is what I think for your mods that car is pretty darn fast. I am on my cell phone so I can't check the time slip for 60's but I will do that when I get home. Again nice times.

sparks03max

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wow looks like you just got in a really well prepped lane, very nice.

ajcool2

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1.7 on street tires?????????????

331TwistedWedge

wow, ive seen low 12 second mustangs barely break 1.7 60ft times and these are 5 speeds on slicks ... whats your secret?

NmexMAX

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That 60' is freakin insane, and also the reason why you went 13.7... And only 18mph in the final 1/4?

Tatanko

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I call BS on the 60'. You'd need more power than that as well as slicks to pull that kind of time. Something got miscalculated or a sensor was off or something. Don't say it doesn't happen, it happens all the time, it's happened to me.

I hate to rain on your parade, but it didn't happen, even if the slip says it did. Not when you were pulling 2.3 and 2.4 60's before that.

97SMG

iTrader: (23)

^^^ Something must have been off. That is to low of a number to running on street tires. All the ice in the world couldn't help you get those times with the numbers you were pulling down. Either way congrats on being able to say you own a 13 sec car. The slip says so, so it must be true.......

Only one way to find out. Repeat what you did and see what you get.

punjabi

I know that there's posisiblility that something got miscalculated but i think it's also possible that I actually ran 1.7 60'. 2.3 60' was my 1st ever run on the track, I also didn't get 2.3 60' on the 1st run cause I spun or anything i just didn't puched it till I was doing about 30. 2.4 60' was when I left the TCS on by mistake (U <<< Reading). Thanks for calling BS on my 60' like I'm making something up. 1.7 is what the time slip says and again I'm not bragging about anything.

punjabi

Yea I know that 1.7 60' is why I can 13.7. I know I only went 18MPH in the 2nd 1/8 I think it's cause I was running 22psi up front and you know about our 3rd gear, I wish I had the extended rev like you do.

ajcool2

iTrader: (43)

I have a timeslip that says I got a 1.8 '60 but I know my car would never be able to do something like that. I'll scan it when I get home.

Tatanko

iTrader: (34)

I know you're not bragging, but physics would beg to differ with your opinion.

NmexMAX

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Ya, I meant 2nd 1/8 . these cars in auto form are known to do 2.2's all day, so your 'range' is an anomaly.

punjabi

Can you please put that timeslip of 1.8 60' and possibly a pic of the car w/ # on it in the lane or something.
Thanks,

punjabi

given the fact that 1.7 was miscal , what you think the best i could have pulled w/ those track conditions ? is 2 flate possible (PB) ? As you said before that your time was miscal once, was the time in next lane also miscal ? does it effect the r/t and 1/4 mile time also ?
Thanks,

Tatanko

iTrader: (34)

I don't know if the time in the other lane was miscalculated, and it's been awhile since that happened, but the sensors are independent in each lane so I don't know that the other lane would necessarily HAVE to be off as well. Could be by coincidence, though.

I'd say with a better 60' than you were getting (maybe a 2.2 or so since you're on street tires), you could pull off a 14.4. You are pretty much stock, so I wouldn't expect much better than that.

QNO_A32

iTrader: (7)

maybe that "8" second no time car just made the lane optimal, nice and sticky from its slicks. probably laid down a nice contact patch for him. ill bet the 4 or so people before him also had good 60ft times,as long as they did everything else right. maybe the OP just did everything "perfect"...lane,avoiding teh water,a little burnout,and a nice launch. ill believe that before ill believe that the lights a E-Town arent on point. he probably has better things to do than make a BS post on a Maxima forum.
ill give it to him......great job.but who am I and what do I know?????
my .02

96blkonblkse

iTrader: (18)

Its *could* be possible if the track was prepped with VHT trackbite before hand, but that is a big IF. I still dont think with those mods the 5.5 has enough power to cut a 1.7.. not without slicks and dropping it at redline.

00SEMAX19

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I think I might believe it! Your mph is a bit higher then the other runs and all timeslips match for race # and date. Great run, good luck doing it again though.

I might have to buy some falkens...

RacerX1320

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<---Skeptic, <no offense> but i just dont see the 5.5 auto tranny pullin off a 60ft in that range man. I say you go back and run again OR find a friend with a car in the high 13s an see if you can hang with em. Doubt youd be able to with those mods, your practically stock.

Tatanko

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Right, just because it's E-town means nothing ever goes wrong. EVER.

No one's saying his post or time slip are BS, just that the time isn't "correct." There's no BS involved, just a fluke of timing equipment most likely.

96blkonblkse

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As much as id like to believe it, i just do not think its possible for a 5.5 auto to cut a 1.7 60FT with street tires..its not just traction, but its also the power it requires to get it off the line that fast. When i was racing my schools car...80 malibu with a built 355 making 400whp, the best i could do was a 1.6 60ft with 28" tall MT slicks and a 3000rpm stall converter with a built TH400. If this was a 6spd then perhaps on slicks dropping it at 5000+RPM might give it the kick to be able to cut a sub 2 second 60, but its very hard to imagine holding the revs at 2200rpm and cutting a sub 2 second 60. I have a 5.5 auto with more mods, and even when i do that, i get massive spin, but the odd time i dont theres no way in hell it came out of the hole NEARLY as fast as the malibu or my car when i ran et streets and was cutting 2.0's

Jime

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The best 60' I have cut so far with the 5.5 Gen auto is a 1.87 with slicks and a 12.4 @ 111 mph.

t6378tp

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I think they gave him someone elses timeslip. 1st thing he would need around a 3-3500rpm TC since the motor just does not make enough power to pull that kind of 60ft at 2200rpms.

but this guy had nitrous and forgot to tell everyone

punjabi

- Guys I my self don't believe the 60's but then how else is 13.7 1/4 possible ?
- MPH for the 1/4,1/8 & 1/8 times falls into place w/ everything else or did the sensors miscal so precisely ????????? now what is the possibility that all of those sensors miscal in that 1 run and on top of that miscal so precisely that everthing is what it suppose to be ????????
- I know 99.9% that I won't be able to duplicate that run but I'll try to go back to track by end of this this month.
- I don't think that they gave me someone else's slip my car # 807 and Audi's # 809 is on the slip and I actually saw 1.71 come up as I was going down the track.
- I don't have nitorus but it is possible in near future.
- So if that 60' was miscalc then it means that 1/8,1/4 and MPHs were also misc.
- Again guys I'm not offended by any mean as I know that you actually have a reason not to believe those 60's.
- All of you guys w/ track knowledge please help me what I have stated above.
-Thanks to everyone that have/will post in this tread.

331TwistedWedge

i can cut 1.5x's in my mustang on slicks, if the track is prepped ~ if it isnt i still cut high 1.6x's to a low 1.7x's, i have an 04 maxima * i dont see this thing pulling 1.7's ~ not even close ... it takes a lot of power and rpms to break a 1.71 60 ft.

The Russian

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som1 gave you the wrong timeslip buddy.....no way........not an auto at least......i had a 3.5 altima with intake and exhuast...and ran 14.6....so those times sound quite right....but i think it was an accident.....

liqidvenom

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seems kinda bold to say his times are a fluke when were werent there.

this site is a trip, if someone says they ran a certain time people ask for slips...

person brings a slip then people want vids

person brings a vid then people want to ride shotgun to witness it themselves

after the shotgun ride then they want to have the pope run along side the car on the 1/4


hey after seeing a 14.5 bone stock n/a 4th gen i have no problem beliving much anymore. his trap seems low, but his slip does seem like on of a maxima (auto) running the 1/4 with a great trap. if the track was prepped nicely for the drag car in front of him then i dont see why he couldnt have just lucked out.


i doubt he can do it again at a track outside of nj.

kzoosho

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Nice run man. Dont worry about what everyone is saying. If you ran it fine. Everyone has a good or bad day. I mean i know 10 second cars that have ran 15's and i know 15 second cars that have ran 13's . It can happen. Nice times.

Zack342

iTrader: (89)

this is very interesting but i find myself agreeing with you. Regardless of what all you guys think according to the equipment that did his testing that day his car ran a 13.7@96.

ajcool2

iTrader: (43)

The only reason I didnt call BS is because the ET matches. I looked at my slip and it actually said a 1.6 60' but I ran a 15.1. Obviously something went wrong with the tracks system. But with his slip it would be possible to get a 13.7 if he did indeed cut a 1.7.

liqidvenom

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hey i have seen cars run 14.9 @ 144 and i have seen cars run 12.0 @ 111

lots of things effect your time and many are completely out of your control.

Tatanko

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I agree, a 13.7 is feasible with a 1.7 60'. My problem is believing that he ACTUALLY had a 1.7 60'. I just don't see it being physically possible on a (pretty much) stock 5.5 gen with an automatic tranny on STREET TIRES. To me, a 2.0 60' on street tires I might have believed as simply being awesome track prep and launching the car just perfect, stars aligning, etc. Not likely, but possible. 1.7, though? Not possible.

liqidvenom

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atco and englishtown are maybe the top two fastest tracks on earth let alone in the us. i was there in the rain ( more like a cold light drizzle) and managed a good 60' time.

its a very grippy track, if you are at pa i suggest you give it a try one of these days.

Tatanko

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Believe me, I'd like to. I'm just not sure it's worth the trip for a mostly stock auto 4th gen Maxima like mine I've only been to two strips here in PA, Beaver Springs Dragway (very bad) and Pittsburgh Raceway Park which was much better than BSD.

I don't care if it is one of the best tracks in the world, I'm still not going to believe a 1.7 60'. Like I said, a 2.0 I would believe, maybe even a 1.9, but a 1.7 is stretching it beyond what common sense allows me to believe. The problem with this is, none of us were there to truly watch the car in action, we'll never know what happened with the timing equipment, what the guy handing out the slips did, etc. I am done arguing because it doesn't matter what any of us say, none of us have definitive proof in either direction.

Dave B

Well, if that's the case then I'm posting my slip that says my G35 ran a 12.2@278mph with a 2.3 60'. The car has CRAZY topend. Since I've got a slip that says that, it must be true

1.7 60' with a basically stock 5.5 gen auto? Impossible, impossible, impossible. Simple as that. As others have pointed out, it takes a massive amount of traction and torque multiplication to pull a number like that and also usually a decent amount of power and light weight. There have bolt-on 350Zs that have gotten 1.7s, but it took 26" slicks, 6000rpm launch, and a prayer that the axles wouldn't sheer. It takes a 3,200lb 250whp STI a 6000rpm launch to grab mid 1.7s and that car has wildly deep gearing. A 13.7@96mph with a 1.7 60 foot does add up, but it's just not happening with this 3,300lb car with very long gears, street tires, an 2000rpm stall TC, and about 210whp.

The answer to what happened is very simple. The tower guy simply inputed the wrong car number in to the timing system (either the car before or after ran that time). It happens.

Tatanko

iTrader: (34)

Finally, someone else with some common sense. Thank you, Dave.

Gooey

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I ran many 2.0 60' on street tires when I had my maxima. The track I race at lay down massive amounts of VHT everyday I go because of the OPS races that goes on weekly.

1.71 60' is a bit hard to believe on street tires but I cannot say its impossible.

A good example is Gbauer. His M coupe makes about the same power as a 5.5gen if not a slight bit more, and he pulled 1.8 60's on street tires all day the first time out at the track.

Dave B

RWD, good weight distribution, 230+whp, and manual tranny which allows you manipulate launch rpm and torque multiplication makes the difference here. Also, what kind of 1.8? A 1.89? There is a huge difference from a high 1.8 60' to a low 1.7 60'. Huge. A bonestock last generation MR2 can yank high 1.8s/low 1.9 60 foots and my friends stock Elise yanked low 1.7s, but those cars have to be launched near redline and they use their midengine design to plant those tires like they were slicks. A FWD Maxima 4AT on street rubber and a low stall TC ain't doing it. It's impossible.

liqidvenom

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We dont have to be there to witness what the car has or can do. I have seen countless threads by other members of this forum that come on here and say their stock 4th gen ran this or their stock 5th gen ran this and people beleive them no matter how far outside the normal range of times are. if needing someone else to be there to always witness something is a bit nuts if you provide a slip just liek anyone else.

hey my first time to the track in my 4th gen i managed a 14.7 with a 2.6-7 60' because i had to leave off idle due my clutch not being able to hold anything more agressive then a off idel launch. i was there with like 4 org members and non of them belived i was able to net such a low time with that crappy a 60'. and this was in a car that only had 3 mods and at full weight.

i'm just saying that sometimes the sun can and will shine upon someone at the track and they lay down a time so fast/quick that people dont want to beleive it.

not sure how you can say something is impossible.