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Old 02-04-2005, 09:54 AM   #1
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max vs 5.0 whupping

heres another one biting the dust. i have to say the 5.0 was pretty shocked considering its a 13.2 sec car. final run was me 13 secs flat @ 106mph vs him at 13.5 101 mph
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nice. What size shot and pulley were you running?
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thanks mike. i posted a while back after the track him and a couple of other mustangs tried to run me on the highway stating i only had a 1/4 mile car. let me tell you from 50 we pulled off and i hit the juice immediatley pulling 10 cars plus then shut down. then he wanted to go home and get another car to race but i refused and continued home. chrismax when i ran that nite i was truly pushing the limits. i was running a 3.125 and 50 shot dry, my final run being a 12.8 @ 111mph with no issues. recently after that i blew it racing a S4turbo with a 60 shot dry and 11lbs. i detonated from lack of fuel. i recently rebuild the whole motor converting to wet a 35 shot. i havent tested it yet becasue of 02 issues but as soon as i clear it up im off and running thanks.
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I could not view your video, but what tires are you running?
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:24 AM   #7
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HAHA! How can a mustang owner even attempt to call a fwd maxima "1/4 only car"?????? Yeah my rwd solid axled V8 muscle car got a beat down by a fwd V6 4 door family hauling 1/4 "only" car. hehe.

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thanks mike. i posted a while back after the track him and a couple of other mustangs tried to run me on the highway stating i only had a 1/4 mile car. let me tell you from 50 we pulled off and i hit the juice immediatley pulling 10 cars plus then shut down. then he wanted to go home and get another car to race but i refused and continued home. chrismax when i ran that nite i was truly pushing the limits. i was running a 3.125 and 50 shot dry, my final run being a 12.8 @ 111mph with no issues. recently after that i blew it racing a S4turbo with a 60 shot dry and 11lbs. i detonated from lack of fuel. i recently rebuild the whole motor converting to wet a 35 shot. i havent tested it yet becasue of 02 issues but as soon as i clear it up im off and running thanks.
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Vid not working, says the link is down.
i checked the site the vid is gone, it was a free site and it looks like after a few downloads it erases. this is my first attempt at posting vids i'll try and get it back up.
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omg! that was a crazy day c max. man i remember when we were leaving that one guy with the suped up mustang and his gf was riding your bumper all the way to the hgwy. i knew something was going down when yall lined up together. evrybody was doing about 50 then the 5.0 takes off with his gf waving to come hahahaaha then c max pulled away like he was standing still i mean left him gone. they were so mad they wanted him to race a ferrari for 5,000 dollars. yo c holler on the connect.
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I could not view your video, but what tires are you running?
nitto 555 extreme drags 225/50/16. man cardana i could never break 13.5 with my pole positions. when i put these on 13's flat and a 12.8. those suckers give good traction my best mod for the dollar. hardly any tire spin if you can view the vid takes off hard with just a slip or two before tracking. also i have lsd and a automatic which probably helps also.
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yeah, I have only made three passes on the 1/4 and the best I did was 13.64 @107.xx, I do not have N20 and I am running the 3.125 but I am five speed. I have the open diff tranny and I was running millenia wheels with G-Force drag radials at 15psi. On my first two runs I could not get traction launching around 4 grand so I launched from idle and pulled my best 60' which was 2.2x. I know if I can get better traction off the line then I could get well down into the 13s. Good kill, I was just wondering how you were laying your power down. What about suspension? Have you ever replaced your motor mounts? Mine are shot, so I think I am going to do that, and I have D2s on the way so maybe that will help a little....I will probably have to brake down at some point and get an lsd tranny.

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nitto 555 extreme drags 225/50/16. man cardana i could never break 13.5 with my pole positions. when i put these on 13's flat and a 12.8. those suckers give good traction my best mod for the dollar. hardly any tire spin if you can view the vid takes off hard with just a slip or two before tracking. also i have lsd and a automatic which probably helps also.
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yeah, I have only made three passes on the 1/4 and the best I did was 13.64 @107.xx, I do not have N20 and I am running the 3.125 but I am five speed. I have the open diff tranny and I was running millenia wheels with G-Force drag radials at 15psi. On my first two runs I could not get traction launching around 4 grand so I launched from idle and pulled my best 60' which was 2.2x. I know if I can get better traction off the line then I could get well down into the 13s. Good kill, I was just wondering how you were laying your power down. What about suspension? Have you ever replaced your motor mounts? Mine are shot, so I think I am going to do that, and I have D2s on the way so maybe that will help a little....I will probably have to brake down at some point and get an lsd tranny.
interesting i was running 16lbs of tire pressure seemed to top off around there. i was launching at about 2500rpms before the car started to creep then as it switched into 2 i hit the switch and im off, that seems to work the best for me. im surprised i still have a front end i had to have the front radiator suppport welded because i ripped it apart. as far as other mods check out my site too many to list. the d2's i see on my list of to get, to keep the car from rising when i take off. http://members.cardomain.com/whoamax
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When I ran on the slicks last time out, I sprayed out of the hole, and had very mild tire spin, but I was running 13lbs. I didn't heat them enough, as I still spun through them til about 25mph, then they hooked.
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HAHA! How can a mustang owner even attempt to call a fwd maxima "1/4 only car"?????? Yeah my rwd solid axled V8 muscle car got a beat down by a fwd V6 4 door family hauling 1/4 "only" car. hehe.
Gotta agree. If the 'stang gets beaten in the 1/4 mile, it gets murdered on the highway.

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nitto 555 extreme drags 225/50/16. man cardana i could never break 13.5 with my pole positions. when i put these on 13's flat and a 12.8. those suckers give good traction my best mod for the dollar. hardly any tire spin if you can view the vid takes off hard with just a slip or two before tracking. also i have lsd and a automatic which probably helps also.

You need to drop to 15" wheels/drags. I think that would help your launch a bit more (not that it's bad or anything...)
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You need to drop to 15" wheels/drags. I think that would help your launch a bit more (not that it's bad or anything...)
your right, but i got these for a steal 150 bucks from one of my boys. he had brought them for his car and totaled it at the track. drags would allow me to almost spray immediately and the 15" would give me a better ratio, hummn maybe low 12's.
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hahaha, that dont count dont have a timeslip for that one
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CMAX, your rad support ripped too? You are the only other person I know that has had that happen. I was going after the body shop that fixed my front end after an accident. I feel better about this now.
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CMAX, your rad support ripped too? You are the only other person I know that has had that happen. I was going after the body shop that fixed my front end after an accident. I feel better about this now.
when i see some of the hp others are putting down, i've always wondered if this has happened to them too. thats why a lot of gusy dont like front wheel drive and hp its causes a mess. i ripped it up right around the front motor mount.
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Which part ripped? My actual lower rad support ripped. The big black steal part is fine but the sheet metal radsupport ripped right out. That was with basic bolt-ons. I'm actually glad it ripped now rather than wait till the boosted torque.


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[quote=Broaner]Which part ripped? My actual lower rad support ripped. The big black steal part is fine but the sheet metal radsupport ripped right out. That was with basic bolt-ons. I'm actually glad it ripped now rather than wait till the boosted torque.

yep thats how mines look. thats the A frame which i ripped out both ends. had it modified instead of just screwing it in, they slit the frame and put nuts on top to hold it also. plus i ripped the radiator support which it attaches to it right down the seam as shown in your pics. be prepared for many things. i actually snapped my tranny mount straight off its resting place, the heads of the bolts snapped right off. i now have heat treated bolts to hold them.
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Well, I'm welding the sh!t out of it next week. I'm putting a long 1/8" plate of steel accross the top of the support and welding around the edges. Then I'm going to drill a huge hole through everything and send a bolt all the way from below the cross member to the top of the new plate I'm welding in. I'm also gonna weld the crossmember to the support on the bottom side and along the seam. It will be beefy. I hope that works.

That is bad to hear about the tranny mount issue too. I just filled three of the mounts so I the rocking of the engine is going to be severly limited.

Have you had any more issues? Please make any suggestions to what I'm planning to do.
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Well, I'm welding the sh!t out of it next week. I'm putting a long 1/8" plate of steel accross the top of the support and welding around the edges. Then I'm going to drill a huge hole through everything and send a bolt all the way from below the cross member to the top of the new plate I'm welding in. I'm also gonna weld the crossmember to the support on the bottom side and along the seam. It will be beefy. I hope that works.

That is bad to hear about the tranny mount issue too. I just filled three of the mounts so I the rocking of the engine is going to be severly limited.

Have you had any more issues? Please make any suggestions to what I'm planning to do.
thats about it. since i welded and bolted those few things the car seems to handle the power much better. just make sure the two bolts in the back of the a frame or secured with nuts on top to hold it together other than that you should be alright
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Thanks. I agree that removing this movement from the geometry greatly increases stiffness and handling. As you can see I did a very minimal amount of welding on there to hold it together until I fixed it properly. After only three months of driving it ripped to shreds again.
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mustang 5.0 and 4.6 gt's are fairly easy to beat with a few mods done to the 4th/5th gen - ford really has no power for these unless they are supercharged - cobra or saleen for that matter - but even with more mod $$$$ dumped into the vq 3.5 6 speeders im sure we can find a way to topple over the cobra and the saleen -
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