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Old 05-16-2004, 10:00 PM   #1
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00accord vs 00maxima

I believe someone on here vouched how the 200hp accords pulled on their 4th gen max at higher ends, but off the line had about a car on the accord. Now, I would like to seek some info on the 222hp maximas vs the 200hp accords, at topend speeds.....???

Who wins? money might be involved, so inquiring in advance
the maxi peaks much later i believe....

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Maxima will win hands down. Auto vs auto the maxima will still pull away. If it's 5spd vs auto then dont even try because you will smoke him. I raced an 01 ex v6 bolt-on accord coupe in my 96 5spd off the line, and it was no competition. Those cars are absolute slugs off the line. From a roll its much better but its notthing a maxima can't handle
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how about auto max vs 5spd accord?
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Only the 03'+ accord V6's came with 5spd (auto tranny btw). If a 5th gen vq30dek 4spd auto raced an 03+ accord v6 5spd auto then the accord will definitely pull away. The extra gear and hp allows the accord to scoot off the line and stay in the powerband. I raced my friend's 03 V6 5spd and he was bone stock while I had bolt ons. He kept up pretty well for it being stock.
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so 00 auto vq will pull away from a 00 accord v6?

stock for stock?

and can any org members tell me if the 00max is that much stronger top end then the 4th gens?
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Accords have better top end.
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Yes I am positive that the 00 auto vq will beat the auto v6 accord. They weigh the same (both around 3200lbs) and the maxima has more hp & tq. Its just no competition. Not only that the low end on that accord sux becuz of the VTEC-E mode it goes into while below 3500rpm (one valve/cylinder).
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I raced v6 accord many times from higher speeds (90+). This would correspond to 4th gear, right where power peaks and is about to go downhill. Accords would slowly walk away. However, from any speed before this, Accords are toast.
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Its a close race. The 00 Maxima will pull of the line slightly while the 00 accord tries to play catch-up in second and third gear. If you do win it will only be by a half car (if that) while the accord is probobly going to pass you at the top of 3rd gear if you went to 100MPH.
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04 TL 6spd vs 01 full bolt on 3.0L 5spd- Max wins- I work for a Acura dealer and test out these things on daily basis. Bone stock 03 I35 vs 04 Auto TL, the I35 wins- and its an auto also. I'm the sole Nissan fan in the whole dealership. I wanna challenge the owner in his 02 NSX to a run vs my G20.
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Bone stock 03 I35 vs 04 Auto TL, the I35 wins- and its an auto also.

I don't know about that. Those 04 TL Auto guys have hit 14.7-14.9. Aren't the I35's a tenth slower than the 03 Max? More a drivers race with the TL winning in the top-end.
TL I35
270hp vs 255hp
238tq vs 246tq
3450lbs vs 3300lbs
5spd vs 4spd

Both close in performance #'s.l
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The older TLs are faster- 02 Type S vs 04 TL- the 02 is like half a car faster to 80MPH. I like the old ones much better from MY point of view. Old ones don't have half the problems the new TLs have. I work for a dealer so I know BTW I got some TSX wheels for sale too.
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04 TL 6spd vs 01 full bolt on 3.0L 5spd- Max wins- I work for a Acura dealer and test out these things on daily basis. Bone stock 03 I35 vs 04 Auto TL, the I35 wins- and its an auto also. I'm the sole Nissan fan in the whole dealership. I wanna challenge the owner in his 02 NSX to a run vs my G20.
wow 347 hp in your G20. the nsx is an ugly car and a waste of 80k. i hope you eat him alive.
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I don't know about that. Those 04 TL Auto guys have hit 14.7-14.9. Aren't the I35's a tenth slower than the 03 Max? More a drivers race with the TL winning in the top-end.
TL I35
270hp vs 255hp
238tq vs 246tq
3450lbs vs 3300lbs
5spd vs 4spd

Both close in performance #'s.l
Those numbers don't really mean anything because they aren't true dyno numbers. Let's see fwhp and then make the assumption.
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The older TLs are faster- 02 Type S vs 04 TL- the 02 is like half a car faster to 80MPH. I like the old ones much better from MY point of view. Old ones don't have half the problems the new TLs have. I work for a dealer so I know BTW I got some TSX wheels for sale too.
I raced 02 TL type S with my 04 SE. the driver of TL-s is friend of mine. so
we did three runs.
by the way, he has injen intake, and header(not sure what brand)
and i have K&N drop-in filter(dunno it helps, =P)
I won by 1/2 of a car length in all three runs.
I gained 1/2 of a car from the start and stayed that way till like 110~115 mph.

i really wanna run 04 auto TL...
and I really wanna get one of those 04 TL...
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Its a close race. The 00 Maxima will pull of the line slightly while the 00 accord tries to play catch-up in second and third gear. If you do win it will only be by a half car (if that) while the accord is probobly going to pass you at the top of 3rd gear if you went to 100MPH.
oh please

A '00 200hp Accord has NO CHANCE whatsoever against a '00 222hp Maxima on the highway. The '00 Accord (I had one of those, remember?) is falling flat on its face after 110 with the torque curve dropping hard after 5500 rpm, meanwhile a '00 Maxima is pulling hard all the way up to the rev-limiter in 3rd at 130 mph. The torque curve never really drops on one of those...

200hp @ 5500 rpm vs 222hp @ 6400 rpm


Do I need to overlay dynos?
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so 00 auto vq will pull away from a 00 accord v6?

stock for stock?

and can any org members tell me if the 00max is that much stronger top end then the 4th gens?
Yes the 2k-2k1 have a stronger top ends due the differents in cams and also the MEVI.!!!!!
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oh please

A '00 200hp Accord has NO CHANCE whatsoever against a '00 222hp Maxima on the highway. The '00 Accord (I had one of those, remember?) is falling flat on its face after 110 with the torque curve dropping hard after 5500 rpm, meanwhile a '00 Maxima is pulling hard all the way up to the rev-limiter in 3rd at 130 mph. The torque curve never really drops on one of those...

200hp @ 5500 rpm vs 222hp @ 6400 rpm


Do I need to overlay dynos?
It all depends on what speed you start at. Obviously on the highway if the Accord starts anywhere from 60MPH-75MPH in 3rd it won't prevail against the maxima. But if the Accord starts at about 80-85MPH and you race to 110MPH then you hang or pull on the Maxima. If you read my post I did say that the Max would win from 0-100MPH. I did not say the accord would win. I also had the car so I know too! Thanks!

I did race a 01 GXE Auto in my stock(at the time) 01 AV6 and lost from 0-80MPH. My front bumper was at his rear. However my dads 98 AV6 dusted me in my 01 even with my I/E by even more than the GXE Maxima did. Our 2001's were slower than the 98-00 models.
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you sure yours aint a lemon?

98-02 were pretty much allll the same
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But if the Accord starts at about 80-85MPH and you race to 110MPH then you hang or pull on the Maxima.
Hang with or pull on. In other words you don't know....

If the Maxima pulls 3 cars, you could still say that you're "hanging" with it you know.

According to CarTest software (based on dyno and gearing thrust analysis), the older Accord V6 will go from 80-110 in 14.3s. A 2k Maxima auto will do it in 12.3. My 01 Accord V6 had trouble pulling on a friggin Jeep Wrangler 4.0 manual from 80 mph, so I can't possibly see how it would pull on a 2k Max auto.

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If you read my post I did say that the Max would win from 0-100MPH. I did not say the accord would win. I also had the car so I know too! Thanks!
Owning the car does not mean you know anything about it. Myself and others have called BS on you more times than I care to remember, and not just at this site.

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I did race a 01 GXE Auto in my stock(at the time) 01 AV6 and lost from 0-80MPH. My front bumper was at his rear. However my dads 98 AV6 dusted me in my 01 even with my I/E by even more than the GXE Maxima did. Our 2001's were slower than the 98-00 models.
Oops...wrong site. I just remembered that no lame street racing is allowed here. Read the rules. Stop posting street racing crap here or I'm going to ban you.
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